It's Official: NHTSA Recall for Roof Delamination
12-28-2009, 06:01 PM
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12-28-2009, 07:00 PM
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This was my line of thinking a few years back when all this was going on, and still is. Mine however, did not exhibit and of the symptoms mentioned in the TSB or Recall, but I still took it in (to cover my azz). there was no seperation, but they still injected adhesive and all's been fine and dandy ever since. 
So now I have to get a new roof panel that most likely won't color match my paint - but my azz will be covered should it fly off and injur someone even tho my current one was deemed "OK" and "You're covered"... So now I'm saying, If it aint broke don't fix it. if they'll let me keep my current roof I may consider. seems like a a bunch of govt horse hockey to me.
ok i'm done ranting.
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12-28-2009, 07:45 PM
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As stated in the article.
"The automaker will begin notifying owners in January and will reimburse motorists who have already gotten their roofs repaired or replaced."
Wonder if you bought a glass roof to replace the solid one, don't have a receipt because bought privately, wonder if gm will reimburse you? if they do, by how much? wonder if you still need the defective roof to give back. so many questions, i guess the answers will eventually surface.
"The automaker will begin notifying owners in January and will reimburse motorists who have already gotten their roofs repaired or replaced."
Wonder if you bought a glass roof to replace the solid one, don't have a receipt because bought privately, wonder if gm will reimburse you? if they do, by how much? wonder if you still need the defective roof to give back. so many questions, i guess the answers will eventually surface.
12-30-2009, 08:01 AM
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I have read posts when the initial recall was going on that some had their roofs separate again after the fix - some even recommended keeping your car in the hot sun to "unglue" the top after it was fixed so to bring it back to the dealer for another shot at fixing it before the 3/36 warranty expired.
I had my 2005 MY roof fixed back in 06 and I it did not have any of the separation symptoms. But recently I have heard the snapping noises in the roof when going up driveways.
Anyway - not only is the color match not perfect, they left traces of glue all over my trunk area that I am still finding bits and traces today when I wax my car.
12-30-2009, 08:04 AM
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12-30-2009, 08:06 AM
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12-30-2009, 08:10 AM
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12-30-2009, 08:54 AM
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12-30-2009, 10:47 AM
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I just had my 06 VY roof replaced last week. No problems with the color match. The replacement roofs are sent to the dealers unpainted so that the dealer can match the paint on your roof bow. So it depends upon your dealer taking the time to do the job right. My VY 06Z06 is now approaching four years old next month. It was safety inspected over 2-1/2 years ago and refoamed per GM protocol even though there was no separation at that time. My roof finally started to separate a couple of months ago. Those that cautioned that the roofs regardless of color would eventually fail were correct. The failures are due to the original polycarbonate plastic roof skins being incompatible with the glue used by GM's roof supplier. It has absolutely nothing to do with the roof supporting structure of either aluminum or magnesium as both Z06 and targa roof coupes have failed. The solution is SMC plastic roof skins which GM has decades of experience. Polycarbonate plastic roofs was a GM experiment with the start of the C6 generation of cars that has back-fired on GM in a big way.
12-30-2009, 10:49 AM
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I just had my 06 VY roof replaced last week. No problems with the color match. The replacement roofs are sent to the dealers unpainted so that the dealer can match the paint on your roof bow. So it depends upon your dealer taking the time to do the job right. My VY 06Z06 is now approaching four years old next month. It was safety inspected over 2-1/2 years ago and refoamed per GM protocol even though there was no separation at that time. My roof finally started to separate a couple of months ago. Those that cautioned that the roofs regardless of color would eventually fail were correct. The failures are due to the original polycarbonate plastic roof skins being incompatible with the glue used by GM's roof supplier. It has absolutely nothing to do with the roof supporting structure of either aluminum or magnesium as both Z06 and targa roof coupes have failed. The solution is SMC plastic roof skins which GM has decades of experience. Polycarbonate plastic roofs was a GM experiment with the start of the C6 generation of cars that has back-fired on GM in a big way.
12-30-2009, 01:11 PM
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I just called the GM 800 number, gave them my VIN and they said there are no open recalls for my vehicle.
I DID already have the handles replaced and the adhesive repaired when I noticed rattling a year or so ago.
The way both the GM rep and the dealer service manager explained it was that again, according to my VIN there is no open recall for the vehicle.
I mentioned all this new info regarding the recall of the recall, explaining that the previous adhesive fix is now being recalled by replacing the entire roof rather than repairing it.
Their answer was that "if you are not currently noticing any problems with the roof then there is not a recall issue."
Am I living in crazy land? The whole point of a recall is to replace/repair something BEFORE it caused a problem right?
So in other words, if GM is aware that a previous fix or an issue COULD cause a problem, they recall it before it fails.
But the way it's being explained to me by both GM and the dealer is that I'd have to have a problem with it, either noticing it rattling again or it flying off on the highway before they'd replace it. That's more like a warranty issue than a recall if you ask me.
So what's going on here and how the hell do we get it addressed if both the GM rep and the dealer are acting like the news on this recall doesn't exist?
EDIT
After reading the service bulletin it says " THE SAFETY RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING JANUARY 2010."
I'm guessing the dealer and the GM rep are telling me there is no open recall because it hasn't actually been passed through yet? So the news is reporting it...and it's "official" at this point, but they aren't actually addressing it until Jan? So I guess wait a month and see if it goes from "no open recalls on your vehicle" to the roof actually being recalled?
I DID already have the handles replaced and the adhesive repaired when I noticed rattling a year or so ago.
The way both the GM rep and the dealer service manager explained it was that again, according to my VIN there is no open recall for the vehicle.
I mentioned all this new info regarding the recall of the recall, explaining that the previous adhesive fix is now being recalled by replacing the entire roof rather than repairing it.
Their answer was that "if you are not currently noticing any problems with the roof then there is not a recall issue."
Am I living in crazy land? The whole point of a recall is to replace/repair something BEFORE it caused a problem right?
So in other words, if GM is aware that a previous fix or an issue COULD cause a problem, they recall it before it fails.
But the way it's being explained to me by both GM and the dealer is that I'd have to have a problem with it, either noticing it rattling again or it flying off on the highway before they'd replace it. That's more like a warranty issue than a recall if you ask me.
So what's going on here and how the hell do we get it addressed if both the GM rep and the dealer are acting like the news on this recall doesn't exist?
EDIT
After reading the service bulletin it says " THE SAFETY RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING JANUARY 2010."
I'm guessing the dealer and the GM rep are telling me there is no open recall because it hasn't actually been passed through yet? So the news is reporting it...and it's "official" at this point, but they aren't actually addressing it until Jan? So I guess wait a month and see if it goes from "no open recalls on your vehicle" to the roof actually being recalled?
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12-30-2009, 01:15 PM
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1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE
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Media inquiries: 202-366-9550
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Toll-Free: 1-888-327-4236
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