AHW219

First of all Jeff is not comfortable therefore regardless of how we all feel it is irrelevant. If you are buying something brand new, especially 50K+ car you have certain expectations. If what is presented does not fulfill your expectations by all means walk away. There are MANY MANY more out there that you can buy that won't leave a bad after taste. IMO 192 miles on a brand new sports car is not a BS. That is approx 40% of break in period mileage. How do you know if these break in mileages were handled accordingly? What if this car was started and "thrown around" before it even warmed up? We don't know. I would not want this floating around in my head when the only feeling I should have is excitement and pleasure of buying a brand new corvette!

Jeffrey's Vette

Hi,

If I knowingly and intentionally lie to a customer, then I would expect to be terminated.

The worst thing that will happen to my salesman is he temporarily loses my commission until he turns around and peddles this vehicle to someone else with your displayed spirit (sometimes people look at things differently when it is happening to them).

The net difference (after shipping) is $1,400, which I am now glad to pay in order to inspect the vehicle beforehand (so, I know exactly what I am getting for my money) and get one with only 21 miles on the odometer (the one in my local dealer's showroom).

The following questions are sincere and not meant to be anything more than a comparison:

Are you willing to give your Vette, to a stranger, for a 192 mile joy ride? I'm sure there are some young guys, located very close to you, who would love to take you up on that kind offer. If you're not there, how will you know how the stranger treated your prized Vette?

Best regards,
Jeffrey

VettedCandidate

TOTALLY DISAGREE...this really has to do with the dealer's honesty AND his willingness to work with you when you have an issue. The idea that the dealer would not document the actual miles on the car is total BS as is the idea that the OP was told it only had 50 mi. when it had 192. I'd back out.

bksnoopy

I agree with you. I would be very angry if that happened to me! If you can get your money back, I would start over.

The only thing that would change my mind is if the deal was unbeatable and I'm sure there is a better or equal deal somewhere.

Happy hunting,

Ben .. OH

bksnoopy

I disagree .... If what this fourm member is saying is true, the dealer's salesman is sleazey and untrustworthy.

Ben, OH

Mblack

I don't know how they do it out there. But when I bought my 350Z, which was new, they didn't have it at the dealership I was at and had to have a guy drive it over. When I finally got the car (I was alot more pissed about waiting 3 hours than I was that they were driving it over not trailoring it, which I didn't know til they got there) it had some 50-70 miles on it.

Maybe they were just driving it over to the dealer they ship it from. I can't imagine it's more than that. If it's a deal your not going to find anywhere else, just let it go and buy the car. If not walk away.

ron-z51

I have to disagree, myself I would feel the same as the OP, 192 miles is a lot when you don't know how it's been driven. That would bother me as long as I owned the car. Like I posted earlier 192 miles is more than 3 hours of hwy driving. That's three hours of potencially being bagged the hell out of, that wouldn't bother you?

Exactly well put

Good luck getting your money back and finding another car Jeffery

Excind

192 miles might not be a big deal to you Tbonez but to most of us it is. Even if and I mean IF it could be overlooked you cant overlook the fact that the saleman lied to him straight out! If Jeffery hadnt asked then that would be on him but he did several times! Run Jeffery! There is nothing but headache for you in this deal. If he lied about the mileage, what else has he or will he lie about?
If you havent signed anything you should be good. Dont let them pressure you into proceeding if you dont want to.

ron-z51

It makes you question more than the mileage as well. Has it been dinged and repair during this period? any paint chips that shouldn't be there? is it clean inside, outside, underside? When I buy a new car I want ever nook and cranny including the underside spotless. Did it see periods of hard braking before the brakes are even broken it?

Run away from this one Jeff, Run...

gatti-man

It's your money. You just spent 1400 more for 170 less miles on a caddy. I would not have done the same.

Jeffrey's Vette

Hi,

IMO, I'm getting much more than that for my $1,400. I'm getting to see the car, in person, before I buy it. I'm getting to look at the condition of the interior, exterior, etc. I will not have to be concerned about transporting a car from Michigan to Texas. To the best of my knowledge, I will be buying the car from a dealership which has been honest and truthful to me. Most importantly.... I'm getting peace of mind and doing business with someone I feel good about! I'm paying 2% more for a vehicle that I will not always wonder about.

Best regards,
Jeffrey

z06Bigbird

It is ok for customers to lie, but (like you), I get bent out of shape when dealers lie.

My dealer does not have a problem with lying. He says it is part of his job--as opposed to a customer who lies. He says the customer has absolutely no reason or excuse to lie. lol

Macbeth182

Hop in your vette and drive 192 miles and let us know if it doesn't seem far.

bksnoopy

Better yet, hop in your CTS-V and run street light to street light testing the power of the ZR1. 192 miles of hot rodding! (or test driving, as the dealer would say)

ssv3

Why would it bother me? One word i have is WARRANTY. It's no big deal enjoy the car. I know we're passionate about buying and enjoying our cars but for a salesperson it's just another sale and they all lie. No biggie.

jschindler

It's got 556 hp. We all know how it was driven - they drove the dog poop out of it.

Yes, it would have bothered me, but if everything was truly in new condition I probably would take the car anyway.......probably.

Revette

I'm really curious to see how this resolves for you Jeffery. The miles on this car sound (to me) like it has been demo-ed more than a few times. I remember trying out a Seville STS back in '93 and the salesman telling me to "stand on it, it'll put up a good challenge to a Corvette".

Of course, I had to try it.

kev1n

A CF forum dealer did the same bullsh*t with me on a vette- they said it was 20 miles, right as I was about the sign the contract sight unseen, but pictures were sent, i asked for a picture of the ODO just to be sure and it was 252 miles. I refused to do the deal and the sales manager called me to chew me out-I wasn't having any of that, they lied about the mileage and god knows what else they could have been lying about. They definitely are not the Corvette king in my book.

Point of this - a dealer is a dealer, doesn't matter if they are a sponser or not. Be sure to use commons sense with any dealer regardless of their status or not.

0Coastal Boot

Did you ask how many miles were on this particular car?
If I didn't ask this question it wouldn't bother me.
Enjoy your new Caddy.

gatti-man

You want the lowest price it comes with caveats. I'm sure there will be another buyer for that car in no time. Pay your premium to get piece of mind. 1400 could have paid for a deluxe detail, all new brakes and a night on the town.