ZR1 Corvette - Going The Way of the Dinosaurs
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Melting Slicks
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Safety Car
"because there are so many Corvettes on the road"
I'm sorry but WHAT? are those guys for real? I see maybe 2 corvettes on my way to work per week, if that, and it's the same ones! lol I've only seen one ZR1, and haven't encounter another Z06...
They must have misplaced that comment, and meant to write it in the Mustang section...lol
I'm sorry but WHAT? are those guys for real? I see maybe 2 corvettes on my way to work per week, if that, and it's the same ones! lol I've only seen one ZR1, and haven't encounter another Z06...
They must have misplaced that comment, and meant to write it in the Mustang section...lol
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look at the price tag vs performance...
thumb up for american muscle car...
I got to admit the interiors dont measure up to the $300k car...but leather seats can not cost that much...
thumb up for american muscle car...
I got to admit the interiors dont measure up to the $300k car...but leather seats can not cost that much...
#6
It is just the typical crap written by most car rag writers. These guys aren't Consumer Reports. They don't know how to write without hyperbole, and they expose their ignorance again and again to anyone who really knows any of the cars they blather on about.
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The corvette will never go away if it keeps gas mileage up over 30mpg...like the ZR7 claims 36mpg. I don't know why they have to charge so much...it's just a car...a quarter is a quarter but when you write corvette on it then it becomes a dollar!!! Such bull****
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The Nav is awesome after reading the manual.
The C6 is one heck of a car. I'm very happy I traded in the C5 which just did not quite ever live up to expectations and I'm so glad the C6 replaced it. The C6 is a great value and one heck of a car. Which makes the ZR1 all that much more.
Can you imagine what a Vette that cost 300k would be? If the Vette can surpass so many cars from 49-105K. A 300k Vette would be beyond incredible.
The C6 is one heck of a car. I'm very happy I traded in the C5 which just did not quite ever live up to expectations and I'm so glad the C6 replaced it. The C6 is a great value and one heck of a car. Which makes the ZR1 all that much more.
Can you imagine what a Vette that cost 300k would be? If the Vette can surpass so many cars from 49-105K. A 300k Vette would be beyond incredible.
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Le Mans Master
Consumer reports? Maybe for a washing machine or toilet paper but not a car.
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"because there are so many Corvettes on the road"
I'm sorry but WHAT? are those guys for real? I see maybe 2 corvettes on my way to work per week, if that, and it's the same ones! lol I've only seen one ZR1, and haven't encounter another Z06...
They must have misplaced that comment, and meant to write it in the Mustang section...lol
I'm sorry but WHAT? are those guys for real? I see maybe 2 corvettes on my way to work per week, if that, and it's the same ones! lol I've only seen one ZR1, and haven't encounter another Z06...
They must have misplaced that comment, and meant to write it in the Mustang section...lol
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Car rag writers are by and large English majors who couldn't find a real job. There are a few, very few, exceptions to this where a car writer actually has an automotive engineering degree and is thus qualified to give an expert opinion. But then there are two kinds of engineers too. Like artists, there those who can do, and those who can only be critics. The engineers at Consumer Reports actually do engineering work.
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Car and Driver is about as credible when it comes to predicting cars as Barney Frank in balancing his checkbook.
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Yes, Consumer Reports, an independent testing lab not driven by advertising dollars. Their test engineers report objective facts about washing machines, TVs, power saws, cars, etc. A machine is a machine, engineers measure how well, or how poorly, they work, how durable they are, etc. They don't get emotionally entangled with them, and more to the point here, they don't need to use purple prose and hyperbole to write about them.
Car rag writers are by and large English majors who couldn't find a real job. There are a few, very few, exceptions to this where a car writer actually has an automotive engineering degree and is thus qualified to give an expert opinion. But then there are two kinds of engineers too. Like artists, there those who can do, and those who can only be critics. The engineers at Consumer Reports actually do engineering work.
Car rag writers are by and large English majors who couldn't find a real job. There are a few, very few, exceptions to this where a car writer actually has an automotive engineering degree and is thus qualified to give an expert opinion. But then there are two kinds of engineers too. Like artists, there those who can do, and those who can only be critics. The engineers at Consumer Reports actually do engineering work.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/10/c...o-controversy/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16696069/
http://www.automotivedigest.com/cont...e.aspx?a=36666
http://www.autospies.com/news/Should...Reports-18905/
http://www1.epinions.com/review/mags...39AB3545-prod6
http://www.allpar.com/cr.html
http://pediatrics.about.com/b/2007/0...ontroversy.htm
Consumers Union, the nonprofit organization behind the magazine, has the laudable mission of attempting to provide consumers with unbiased, objective, useful product information. They don't accept advertising nor product donations. Rather, they purchase items like the rest of us. They then subject them to an array of tests and report their findings.
While this sounds great in theory, the results are uneven. Some of the tests that a product are subjected to may be hard for the average person to relate to. Real use in real settings just isn't the same animal as a set of esoteric tests. And, like it or not, there is no such thing as objectivity.
Bias always enters into a picture in one way or another. Perhaps most common is the observation of many people that Consumer Reports generally has a strong preference for foreign versus domestic vehicles. Bias occurs in other forms, as well. I remember years ago when they withdrew their good words for a product they had chosen as some sort of best buy. They did this because the manufacturer broke of of CU's rules and stated in their own advertising that CU had preferred them to others. Okay, the manufacturer may have broken CU's rule... but the product was still the same good product that CU had adored. CU's attitudes towards a company do bias how they rate that company's products.
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Burning Brakes
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Melting Slicks
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It's actually a CAR AND DRIVER article.
And yes, the ZR1 took 1st place in this test, but so many people ripped on the article. I don't think they even read it. So who is REALLY biased? Not Car & Driver, I think the C6 owners...
I believe anytime someone says anything about a Corvette, they automatically assume it is negative. Or if they give the car excellent reviews but state ONE negative thing about it, the Corvette people go berserk. Like a hyper sensitive woman on her menstrual cycle.
And yes, the ZR1 took 1st place in this test, but so many people ripped on the article. I don't think they even read it. So who is REALLY biased? Not Car & Driver, I think the C6 owners...
I believe anytime someone says anything about a Corvette, they automatically assume it is negative. Or if they give the car excellent reviews but state ONE negative thing about it, the Corvette people go berserk. Like a hyper sensitive woman on her menstrual cycle.
Last edited by LBear; 06-19-2009 at 02:38 PM.