Pics From The Bash; Zr1, 09 Z06, More
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The following is functional, the pieces serve some purpose, I am sure, but tacky. And as such, goes down in my book as rice.
I'll answer your question but you have to promise to answer mine too.
Mine was: If I had put the same body crap, the carbon fiber ground effects package, and a carbon fiber roof skin, the mile long carbon fiber splitter and the ghetto chrome 50 spoke wheels, on a brand new 2006 Z06 back in 2006 after taking delivery of it, what else would you have called it but Rice?????
I'm going to answer your question by asking you one.
When will you be adding one of these
to your street driven with a license plate on it, car???? After all, its functional.
Rice is tacky. No such thing as "classy" rice. Rice, by definition, is cheap looking, juvenile and tacky.
Which is exactly what all of that exposed carbon fiber in the pictures of the ZR1 in the first post of this thread is.
Sure it can be functional. But there are some things which just don't belong on a street car. And exposed carbon fiber ground effects, roofs, etc. are but a few of them. Especially a street car with more class, lineage and pedigree, than crass such as a Corvette.
I mean look at those pics in the first post which the original poster, PC7, was kind enough to get for us, (thanks for bringing us the nice pics from the bash PC7. )
Jeez, all of that exposed carbon fiber on the ZR1..... the roof, the ground effects kit.....hell, I was looking for a fart can exhaust system on it......I'm serious.....thats the only item of rice they left off of it. That and the park bench. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't belong on a street car.
You can look at a C5,C6, a C6 Z06, non of them have that crap on them. Don't need it. And if someone adds that sort of stuff to a C6 or a Z06, its frowned upon and with good reason. You have to go back to the C4 and the Greenwood kits, and the Can Am C3s to find something reminiscent of this in a Vette.
Now if you have a Honda Civic or some such, and are auditioning for The Fast and The Furious Part VI, then stick as much exposed carbon fiber on it as you want.
I ask myself this question,........ the average guy who buys this thing, what the heck does he look like, .......middle aged, gold chains, hair in his chest,.... car never seeing a track..... rolling around with all of that exposed adolescent carbon fiber, carbon fiber skin on his roof, ground effects,.... looking as if he ripped it off his teenaged son's Honda Civic?
Not a classy picture becoming of a classy car like a Corvette.
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I prefer the Wil Cooksey 427 special edition Z over the ZR1. But I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers either. Still a great looking Vette in my eyes...and nothing rice about it to me...except maybe those wheels.
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Very nice pics.
I havent been following the vette scene as much as I have been. Wheels on the black Z06 new standard wheels or optional, and is the cyber grey an official non-ZR1 color?
I havent been following the vette scene as much as I have been. Wheels on the black Z06 new standard wheels or optional, and is the cyber grey an official non-ZR1 color?
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I find it funny how so many of you are calling the ZR-1 rice... the car is a Corvette so of course it looks like a Corvette with different parts on it.
Go to a race track... look at the parts on a proper race car that allow it to go very fast in a stable manner. The ZR-1s additions are functional and cool looking, they serve to differentiate it from the Z06 and allow it to achieve 200+ MPH speeds with greater stability than the Z06.
I agree that a Greenwood kit on a C5 is horrible, but you can't compare that to a C6 ZR-1
Go to a race track... look at the parts on a proper race car that allow it to go very fast in a stable manner. The ZR-1s additions are functional and cool looking, they serve to differentiate it from the Z06 and allow it to achieve 200+ MPH speeds with greater stability than the Z06.
I agree that a Greenwood kit on a C5 is horrible, but you can't compare that to a C6 ZR-1
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I find it funny how so many of you are calling the ZR-1 rice... the car is a Corvette so of course it looks like a Corvette with different parts on it.
Go to a race track... look at the parts on a proper race car that allow it to go very fast in a stable manner. The ZR-1s additions are functional and cool looking, they serve to differentiate it from the Z06 and allow it to achieve 200+ MPH speeds with greater stability than the Z06.
I agree that a Greenwood kit on a C5 is horrible, but you can't compare that to a C6 ZR-1
Go to a race track... look at the parts on a proper race car that allow it to go very fast in a stable manner. The ZR-1s additions are functional and cool looking, they serve to differentiate it from the Z06 and allow it to achieve 200+ MPH speeds with greater stability than the Z06.
I agree that a Greenwood kit on a C5 is horrible, but you can't compare that to a C6 ZR-1
It's a street car and my guess would be that for every one of those front splitters that assists a ZR1 at speeds in excess of 200 mph there will be 500 of them torn off on someones driveway access or the parking blocks at the convienece store.
I agree, if it were a race car at the track, those parts would look great to me and I'd fully understand them. The splitter on the ZR1 though needs to be a little lower. As it sits now it will take way too much air underneath itself.
Great parts for stabilzation of a fast fast car, but for the street, no need.
Check this out if you haven't seen it yet ===> ZR1 @ Papenburg
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I personally never mentioned the word rice but I am one of the people that don't like it.
It's a street car and my guess would be that for every one of those front splitters that assists a ZR1 at speeds in excess of 200 mph there will be 500 of them torn off on someones driveway access or the parking blocks at the convienece store.
I agree, if it were a race car at the track, those parts would look great to me and I'd fully understand them. The splitter on the ZR1 though needs to be a little lower. As it sits now it will take way too much air underneath itself.
Great parts for stabilzation of a fast fast car, but for the street, no need.
Check this out if you haven't seen it yet ===> ZR1 @ Papenburg
It's a street car and my guess would be that for every one of those front splitters that assists a ZR1 at speeds in excess of 200 mph there will be 500 of them torn off on someones driveway access or the parking blocks at the convienece store.
I agree, if it were a race car at the track, those parts would look great to me and I'd fully understand them. The splitter on the ZR1 though needs to be a little lower. As it sits now it will take way too much air underneath itself.
Great parts for stabilzation of a fast fast car, but for the street, no need.
Check this out if you haven't seen it yet ===> ZR1 @ Papenburg
You have a lot of exterior racing parts materials on a car designed to be registered with the DMV and have at least a rear, and possibly even a front and rear license plate on it.
On a track car, those parts would be perfectly in place. But on a street car, no need.
And when you put parts like that on a predominately street driven car, what you end up with, is what you see with a lot of these riced out Honda Civics.
Racing parts which are totally out of place on the street, such as scoops, wings, body panels, ground effects kits, made of exposed carbon fiber materials.
If you are going to be racing to 200mph plus speeds on an oval, thats great, but lets face it, a lot of these 1500-2000 cars are going to wind up as garage queens and grocery getters and will never see speeds like that, if they ever see a track at all. And Chevy either knows, or should know that.
Like I say, I'd be embarrased if I came out one day and discovered that someone had installed those same parts on my Z06.
And I'm not even going to get into that plexiglass hole in the hood. What was the point in that? Ferrari uses a clear boot to on some of it's models to show off the engine, but this plexiglass covered hole in the hood......precisely what "function" does it serve????
That plexiglass porthole in the hood, ts rice. And there is no getting around that. Now I know a lot don't want to admit that because this is one of our beloved Vettes, but its the truth.
Geez, do the folks at General Motors think that the car really would have looked that much worse if they had decided to leave that hole covered. If that hole in the above pic of the yellow ZR1 were painted over with the same yellow paint, would it have taken away from the car's esthetics???
Cobra4B, I hope the work on your C5 Z06 is coming along well and going your way. But please do not put a plexiglass window into your hood.
But you bring up an interesting point. 5-10 years from now, all of that exposed carbon fiber, and the carbon fiber ground effects package on the ZR1, will look just as ridiculous as the Greenwood package looks today. And the car will cost at least 50 grand less than what it will start out at when it hits the road this year.
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I think the ZR1 is a little like the Ferrari Enzo. Most Ferraris are beautiful cars, but to me, the Enzo is just stupid looking. It looks like a kids fiberglass kit car. The ZR1 is not THAT bad, but I agree, the ground effects etc etc look like unsophisticated bolt-on items. It is a magnificent piece of engineering, but it looks bulky, heavy.
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GM has some outstanding engineering put into the ZR1 but something is missing that would really make the car a stand out. The Z06 on the hand they got the styling perfect IMO. Lean, mean and it looks like it wants to run..... The ZR1 looks like way to many parts were simply an after thought. The forced induction was a relatively cheap way of beating the Viper in the HP wars. Would have MUCH rather seen a thumping naturally aspirated engine as opposed to going cheap and quick SC route. Yea I know all about the SC technology used but I just don't care for it.
I am not a fan of "bolt on" body parts. Come on GM... a bolt on spoiler on car costing over a 100 grand? Not my idea of classic car in anyway. Looks more like the bolt on crap they used to gloom on to those FAKE dodge NASCAR knock offs built in the 70's...........
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pheeww, I'm glad a few others spoke out that they didnt like the ZR1. It took me a lot of courage to post on this forum that i didnt like it! i have Corvette blood running through me and always defend them against any car, but I think they have got the ZR1 horribly wrong...it was like an after thought from GM, how could they make the car without spending too much....'ahh lets bolt lots of extra stuff on and cut a hole in the hood'. It should have a different design, like the Z06 is to the regular C6, you instantly know its a Z06. But if I saw the ZR1 in a car lot, I would have to take an extra look to make sure its not a modded Corvette.
The ZR1 should have been what the RS1 is to the Aston Martin DB9. The GT3 of the Porsche 997. You look at these cars and they ouuuzzz sex and power, and the looks alone give them race pedigree. But the ZR1 looks like it belongs in a custom car show, not the race track.
Perhaps it should have been a Z06 lux?!
The ZR1 should have been what the RS1 is to the Aston Martin DB9. The GT3 of the Porsche 997. You look at these cars and they ouuuzzz sex and power, and the looks alone give them race pedigree. But the ZR1 looks like it belongs in a custom car show, not the race track.
Perhaps it should have been a Z06 lux?!
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I would buy it and put a Z06 hood and front fenders on it . . . and a Z06 badge.
Better yet, just make it look like a C6 widebody, with no badges.
Better yet, just make it look like a C6 widebody, with no badges.
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pheeww, I'm glad a few others spoke out that they didnt like the ZR1. It took me a lot of courage to post on this forum that i didnt like it! i have Corvette blood running through me and always defend them against any car, but I think they have got the ZR1 horribly wrong...it was like an after thought from GM, how could they make the car without spending too much....'ahh lets bolt lots of extra stuff on and cut a hole in the hood'. It should have a different design, like the Z06 is to the regular C6, you instantly know its a Z06. But if I saw the ZR1 in a car lot, I would have to take an extra look to make sure its not a modded Corvette.
The ZR1 should have been what the RS1 is to the Aston Martin DB9. The GT3 of the Porsche 997. You look at these cars and they ouuuzzz sex and power, and the looks alone give them race pedigree. But the ZR1 looks like it belongs in a custom car show, not the race track.
Perhaps it should have been a Z06 lux?!
The ZR1 should have been what the RS1 is to the Aston Martin DB9. The GT3 of the Porsche 997. You look at these cars and they ouuuzzz sex and power, and the looks alone give them race pedigree. But the ZR1 looks like it belongs in a custom car show, not the race track.
Perhaps it should have been a Z06 lux?!
Few non vette people will even spot the car as something special unless they read the ZR1badge stuck on the side. I believe the clear hole in the hood was simply a desperate styling move by GM to give the car something different. It didn't work IMO! It's not worth over a hundred grand if some one is looking for vette that stands out in the crowd............