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Old 01-03-2008, 08:26 PM
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It’s nice there is such renewed interest in DIY wireless exhaust controls by a few members. 16 months ago I developed the first wireless exhaust control (Mild2Wild) not as a DIY, but as a commercial product that has gone on to become a very proud and successful accomplishment for me.

It’s nice to know that product has inspired others to make similar products and also make their own DIY’s. Having 16 months experience and a few thousand units under my belt, I think it qualifies me to be kind of an expert on exhaust controls so I figure I would fill in some of the blanks.

It’s ironic that some would imply that I am against DIY’s when I have my own DIY section in the FAQ section and a DIY section on my web site, I don’t think I have ever seen a DIY section on a vendors site other than mine. It’s almost that they resent that I developed a unique application for my business to sell, it’s sad to have to deal with the harassment, when this is the American Dream .

The idea is simple, you interrupt the power to the exhaust control circuit and it disables the controls and opens the butterflies 100% of the time. Apply power back and they return to the oem operation. This can be done two ways, remove the fuse or install a circuit that interrupts the power using a manual wired switch or wireless one.

Back when I developed my product you could not purchase a wireless control with the correct amperage. I worked with the engineer that designed the Z06 system and had a control custom built (costly but worth it). It cost far more to have these parts custom built to a spec. I also double insulate and guarentee my parts for life. Lucky for you guys in the past few months new wireless units have been available with increased amperage (but still not the same as mine). Or as Gary Thompson did, install an old style dimmer switch in the dead pedal.

It all starts with the fuse block located in the passenger side foot well. You just fold down the carpet to access this area.

If you need help, have questions, need parts for your project please feel free to contact me.

I will not post links to non forum vendors as I try to support our vendors and because it's the rules:

You need a switch (wireless or manual)
A mini add a circuit






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Old 01-03-2008, 08:34 PM
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Thanks for the info, Ed - it proves where your intentions are. I bought several of your products because I wanted the assurance of quality and safety - electronics is not my game. BTW - you delivered as advertised and your products are 1st class. Thanks for supporting this form!
Old 01-03-2008, 08:56 PM
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Hey, have you applied for a patent yet? If you can show that there was no prior art, then you may have something significant on your hands.
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Used your DIY section a few times!
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not sure i understand the dual 10A fuses. that is just puzzling. if there is enough current to burn one 10A fuse, it will just burn the other as quickly and two 10s does not replace one 20.........not shooting the messenger here.

Ed, let your products stand for themselves, you shouldnt have to explain or justify your offerings. sounds like you have a strong following.
Old 01-03-2008, 09:12 PM
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Hey, have you applied for a patent yet? If you can show that there was no prior art, then you may have something significant on your hands.
I am the originator and can prove it, it clearly documented. Honestly $6-8K and 12-16 months for a patent that is useless on forums like this. Do you really think a patent pending would stop anyone? What stops people is ethics period. I see tons if items on here I could copy and produce but I respect the people/vendors that worked night and day to develop them. Even if it was patent pending who is the lawyer going after fake members that sign up with no info.
Old 01-03-2008, 09:14 PM
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[QUOTE=Z06forski;1563457588]not sure i understand the dual 10A fuses. that is just puzzling. if there is enough current to burn one 10A fuse, it will just burn the other as quickly and two 10s does not replace one 20.........not shooting the messenger here.[QUOTE]

Ed doesn't intend to use 2 10A fuses to make a 20A. He is using the seat heater terminal to add an extra 10A circuit. The 2 10A fuses protect 2 different loads. One being the heated seats and the other being the M2W.

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Originally Posted by Z06forski
not sure i understand the dual 10A fuses. that is just puzzling. if there is enough current to burn one 10A fuse, it will just burn the other as quickly and two 10s does not replace one 20.........not shooting the messenger here.

Ed, let your products stand for themselves, you shouldnt have to explain or justify your offerings. sounds like you have a strong following.
One fuse protect the original circuit you are tapping into. The other fuse protects the circuit you car now providing power to (the exhaust circuit).

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Old 01-03-2008, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pipedreams
I am the originator and can prove it, it clearly documented. Honestly $6-8K and 12-16 months for a patent that is useless on forums like this. Do you really think a patent pending would stop anyone? What stops people is ethics period. I see tons if items on here I could copy and produce but I respect the people/vendors that worked night and day to develop them. Even if it was patent pending who is the lawyer going after fake members that sign up with no info.
Really Ed, not to bust your ***** but you should patent the product. It's not useless to do as it would be your recourse to go after those that copy the idea. I'm sure you recall the guy that invented the intermittant wiper electronics and I think it was Ford that stole it. Ford ended up paying this guy big time for that and made him a very wealthy man. What will you do if or when GM decides to add that feature in the future? Don't say they won't cuz you never know...
As far as going after fake members, you don't need a lawyer to do that. The mods here will take care of that as they did.
I say go after the patent, it's a money maker...
Old 01-03-2008, 09:29 PM
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better watch posting anything that even says, "links" "diy" "launching" "locked" they seem to be getting locked alot lately...
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I've bought many things from Ed and they're of the best quality. His DIY's are great. I have an 06 with a Corsa. If I had an NPP I wouldn't hesitate to buy his Mild2Wild.
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Very happy with Ed's excellent service and communication. Nice going Ed!
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Originally Posted by Hawk07
Really Ed, not to bust your ***** but you should patent the product. It's not useless to do as it would be your recourse to go after those that copy the idea. I'm sure you recall the guy that invented the intermittant wiper electronics and I think it was Ford that stole it. Ford ended up paying this guy big time for that and made him a very wealthy man. What will you do if or when GM decides to add that feature in the future? Don't say they won't cuz you never know...
As far as going after fake members, you don't need a lawyer to do that. The mods here will take care of that as they did.
I say go after the patent, it's a money maker...
So you would spend $6-8k for a patent you can't enforce. And every time $800 to get the lawyer to issue a notice. GM or Ford I am not. I encourage anyone to build their own switch.
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Originally Posted by Pipedreams
I am the originator and can prove it, it clearly documented. Honestly $6-8K and 12-16 months for a patent that is useless on forums like this. Do you really think a patent pending would stop anyone? What stops people is ethics period. I see tons if items on here I could copy and produce but I respect the people/vendors that worked night and day to develop them. Even if it was patent pending who is the lawyer going after fake members that sign up with no info.
Besides, even if you wasted the money on a patent, and the patent office will issue a patent for things that are obviously not patentable as long as you pay the fees, you'd still have to be able to defend the patent. One way to invalidate a patent is to show that it is obvious to one who is skilled in the art. That's certainly the case here.

You'd have better luck copyrighting "Mild2Wild". That's novel and enforceable, and copyright protection would help prevent others from profiting from your promotion and advertising efforts.
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Ed just keeps on being a class act
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Originally Posted by Pipedreams
So you would spend $6-8k for a patent you can't enforce. And every time $800 to get the lawyer to issue a notice. GM or Ford I am not. I encourage anyone to build their own switch.
This right here is the reason why I'll be buying my switch from you in a couple of weeks.
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You'd have better luck copyrighting "Mild2Wild". That's novel and enforceable, and copyright protection would help prevent others from profiting from your promotion and advertising efforts.

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Originally Posted by Pipedreams
One fuse protect the original circuit you are tapping into. The other fuse protects the circuit you car now providing power to (the exhaust circuit).
gotcha ! cant see that in the fuse housing, thanks
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Ed,

I have purchased from you and just reading your threads and your websites I believe in my heart you are a good guy and when I get wifey approval I will be buying more from you.
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Originally Posted by shopdog
Besides, even if you wasted the money on a patent, and the patent office will issue a patent for things that are obviously not patentable as long as you pay the fees, you'd still have to be able to defend the patent. One way to invalidate a patent is to show that it is obvious to one who is skilled in the art. That's certainly the case here.

You'd have better luck copyrighting "Mild2Wild". That's novel and enforceable, and copyright protection would help prevent others from profiting from your promotion and advertising efforts.
I beleive that you meant to suggest that Ed file a trademark registration for the term "Mild2Wild."


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