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Old 11-21-2007, 09:00 AM
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I remember a post about something needs to be lubed at every z51 oil change.Anyone know what it is?
Old 11-21-2007, 10:02 AM
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yes, lube the rear outer toe links at every oil change or track days.
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cranky
yes, lube the rear outer toe links at every oil change or track days.
... and add 6.0 quarts of oil instead of 5.5 quarts.
Old 11-21-2007, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by agrumpyguy
I remember a post about something needs to be lubed at every z51 oil change.Anyone know what it is?
Unless you do a lot of tracking, you will likely find that lubing the rear toe links at EVERY oil change is unneccessary and will create a mess for you.

A better interval is every other oil change or 10K miles whichever comes first. The best method is to simply feel the fitting seal, or visually inspect it to see if it's plump with grease...if you can feel or see that the seal has grease within, then greasing is not required. Overgreasing will lead to grease leakage from the seal and a mess on your rear wheels.

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Old 11-21-2007, 11:18 AM
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Z51 Oil Change I don't get it?
Old 11-21-2007, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jet Stream
Z51 Oil Change I don't get it?
That's where you use the oil with the Z51 logo on the bottle.

BTW, I understand that some if not all FE3 cars also have these greasable end links.

But I agree, not needed that often - 10,000 miles is probably overkill. And don't use a lot of grease - just a pump or two.
Old 11-21-2007, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jet Stream
Z51 Oil Change I don't get it?
What don't you get.
Old 11-21-2007, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by blkc6z51
What don't you get.
Look in the manual. Nothing special specified about Z51 and oil changes/lubes. Why don't people read the service instructions.
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Originally Posted by JmpnJckFlsh
Unless you do a lot of tracking, you will likely find that lubing the rear toe links at EVERY oil change is unneccessary and will create a mess for you.

A better interval is every other oil change or 10K miles whichever comes first. The best method is to simply feel the fitting seal, or visually inspect it to see if it's plump with grease...if you can feel or see that the seal has grease within, then greasing is not required. Overgreasing will lead to grease leakage from the seal and a mess on your rear wheels.
Very good point here, thanks for the reminder JJF. With grease comes dirt which will be almost impossible to clean.
Old 11-21-2007, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jet Stream
Look in the manual. Nothing special specified about Z51 and oil changes/lubes. Why don't people read the service instructions.
the manual doesn't say anything about putting a Z51 emblem on it either, but that doesn't stop people from doing it
Old 11-21-2007, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jet Stream
Look in the manual. Nothing special specified about Z51 and oil changes/lubes. Why don't people read the service instructions.
The Z51 gets an additional 1/2 quart of oil. That's due to the engine oil cooler that the base model doesn't have.
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Originally Posted by cadguymark
the manual doesn't say anything about putting a Z51 emblem on it either, but that doesn't stop people from doing it
If you don't have an intelligent answer to the question posed,move on.Why do idiots have to get into the z51 envy mode anytime one is mentioned?
For your information the z51 package does have different parts,than non z51 and the rear toe links need to be maintained.
What does that have to do with emblems?
Enjoy your Thanksgiving
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Originally Posted by agrumpyguy
If you don't have an intelligent answer to the question posed,move on.Why do idiots have to get into the z51 envy mode anytime one is mentioned?
For your information the z51 package does have different parts,than non z51 and the rear toe links need to be maintained.
What does that have to do with emblems?
Enjoy your Thanksgiving
Z51 Envy??? Come on folks get real. Anyone that can a afford a new Corvette can afford a Z51 suspension option. Its the Chiropractor bill from the sore spine from the jarring suspension the Z51 offers is what they can't afford....

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Old 11-21-2007, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jet Stream
Z51 Envy??? Come on folks get real. Anyone that can a afford a new Corvette can afford a Z51 suspension option. Its the Chiropractor bill from the sore spine from the jarring suspension the Z51 offers is what they can't afford....
It is exactly people like you I was referring to.All I did was use the resources of this forum to get an answer to a question I had about services specific to my z51 option.Many members gave me good info.Yet you chose to tell me why didn't I read the manual .I appreciate your very helpful advise.Then you get into thet old topic about the z51 is nothing special blah blah.Ifyou feel that strongly start your own thread and get off mine.
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Originally Posted by Jet Stream
Look in the manual. Nothing special specified about Z51 and oil changes/lubes. Why don't people read the service instructions.
Maybe they've edited Z51 out of the 2008 manuals, but the 2006 Owner's Manual clearly indicates special attention for Z51 in the "Capacities and Specifications" section (page 5-101 in 2006):

Engine Oil with Filter
6.0L Engine 5.5 qt
6.0L Engine Performance Package (Z51) 6.0 qt
7.0L Engine 8.0 qt


And, under "Maintenance Footnotes", footnote (b), in Section 6, Maintenance Schedule (page 6-7 in 2006):

Visually inspect front and rear suspension and steering system for damaged, loose, or missing parts or signs of wear. Inspect power steering lines and hoses for proper hook-up, binding, leaks, cracks, chafing, etc. If you have the Z51 performance package, lubricate the outer ends of both rear toe-links.

Check your owner's manual and get back to us. Ya got to watch those footnotes...they'll nail ya.

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Originally Posted by agrumpyguy
It is exactly people like you I was referring to.All I did was use the resources of this forum to get an answer to a question I had about services specific to my z51 option.Many members gave me good info.Yet you chose to tell me why didn't I read the manual .I appreciate your very helpful advise.Then you get into thet old topic about the z51 is nothing special blah blah.Ifyou feel that strongly start your own thread and get off mine.
Spoken from the guy who just coined the phrase Z51 Envy.....

I'll say it again read the manual its the best source of information regarding service to your car. Not CorvetteForum.com

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my 2006 owner's manual says:

Scheduled Maintenance
Service Maintenance II
. . . .

Inspect suspension and steering components. See footnote (b). •
. . . .

(b) Visually inspect front and rear suspension and
steering system for damaged, loose, or missing parts or
signs of wear. Inspect power steering lines and hoses
for proper hook-up, binding, leaks, cracks, chafing, etc.
If you have the Z51 performance package, lubricate
the outer ends of both rear toe-links.
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Originally Posted by JmpnJckFlsh
Maybe they've edited Z51 out of the 2008 manuals, but the 2006 Owner's Manual clearly indicates special attention for Z51 in the "Capacities and Specifications" section (page 5-101 in 2006):

Engine Oil with Filter
6.0L Engine 5.5 qt
6.0L Engine Performance Package (Z51) 6.0 qt
7.0L Engine 8.0 qt


And, under "Maintenance Footnotes", footnote (b), in Section 6, Maintenance Schedule (page 6-7 in 2006):

Visually inspect front and rear suspension and steering system for damaged, loose, or missing parts or signs of wear. Inspect power steering lines and hoses for proper hook-up, binding, leaks, cracks, chafing, etc. If you have the Z51 performance package, lubricate the outer ends of both rear toe-links.

Check your owner's manual and get back to us. Ya got to watch those footnotes...they'll nail ya.

Damn, it says the same thing in my 07 manual. Since I've read the manual and have seen the information on here, I would say that there if fact IS something different about the Z51 oil change and lube requirements as compared to the F55. Since I have the Z51 option, it is important to note that there is additional oil required AND the 2 lubrication points that need maintenance.
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
Damn, it says the same thing in my 07 manual. Since I've read the manual and have seen the information on here, I would say that there if fact IS something different about the Z51 oil change and lube requirements as compared to the F55. Since I have the Z51 option, it is important to note that there is additional oil required AND the 2 lubrication points that need maintenance.
You know, I think we're on to something here, but...it's probably just a misprint in our Owner's Manuals...We (including the General) are clearly unaware that F55 is THE ONE TRUE "Performance Package"


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