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Old 11-07-2007, 01:43 PM
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Once in a while in threads containing pictures or concerning WHITE or BLACK vettes, the "spirited discussion" of the scientific makeup of the colors arises. Not trying to beat the dead horse or start arguements, just trying to find out the truth. Is BLACK (since that's the color of my C6) the presence or the absence of all colors?

One member previously stated that if you combine all colors on a piece of paper, you would get black so that would mean that it's the PRESENCE of all colors. Right or wrong? So what's the truth?
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:48 PM
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Black is colored with "carbon black" pigments. Back has the most pigment of the color spectrum. It is Silver that usually has the least pigment.
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When you combine "pigments" (as in paint for example) of all the colors you get black. When you combine colors of light you get white.
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That's true, Black is the presence of all colors. White is the absence of all colors.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:52 PM
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I'm no expert but if you mix all colors of paint together you get black. If you mix all colors of light together you get white (think of a prism that separates light into it constituent colors or a rainbow). So it depends on what you are talking about.

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Old 11-07-2007, 01:52 PM
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I don't know the physics involved, but I think it can be correct to say black is the presence of all colors or the absence of all colors depending on the context.

I think one has to do with reflection of light and the other has to do with transmission of light.
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Old 11-07-2007, 01:57 PM
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To answer that you must distinguish between colors of light and colors of pigment. In light, white is the presence of all colors. In pigments, white is the absorption of all color whereas Black is the reflection of all color.


http://www.bartleby.com/65/co/color.html

The real question to stir things up would be;

Are the "colors" of Black and White really colors?

Eother way, they both look bada$$ on Corvettes!

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Old 11-07-2007, 02:02 PM
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I googled this for what it's worth,
Black can be defined as the visual impression experienced in directions from which no visible light reaches the eye. (This makes a contrast with whiteness, the impression of any combination of colors of light that equally stimulates all three types of color-sensitive visual receptors.)

Pigments that absorb light rather than reflect it back to the eye "look black". A black pigment can, however, result from a combination of several pigments that collectively absorb all colors. If appropriate proportions of three primary pigments are mixed, the result reflects so little light as to be called "black".

This provides two superficially opposite but actually complementary descriptions of black. Black is the lack of all colors of light, or an exhaustive combination of multiple colors of pigment
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Another way to help thing about it.


If you have a red corvette, its every color but red. As it absorbs all frequencies of light, and reflects only red.
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Originally Posted by mcandrew67
I googled this for what it's worth,
Black can be defined as the visual impression experienced in directions from which no visible light reaches the eye. (This makes a contrast with whiteness, the impression of any combination of colors of light that equally stimulates all three types of color-sensitive visual receptors.)

Pigments that absorb light rather than reflect it back to the eye "look black". A black pigment can, however, result from a combination of several pigments that collectively absorb all colors. If appropriate proportions of three primary pigments are mixed, the result reflects so little light as to be called "black".

This provides two superficially opposite but actually complementary descriptions of black. Black is the lack of all colors of light, or an exhaustive combination of multiple colors of pigment
Wow.
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Originally Posted by kewlbrz
Another way to help thing about it.


If you have a red corvette, its every color but red. As it absorbs all frequencies of light, and reflects only red.
And yet . . . "All Corvettes Are Red".
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White light contains all colors. That's why when you shine it through a prism you see the rainbow of colors...they are all present. Black is just the opposite...the absence of color.

Colors that you see are the result of relected light. If all (white) light is relected it appears white. If no light is relected (all absorbed) it looks black.
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Originally Posted by mcandrew67
I googled this for what it's worth,
Black can be defined as the visual impression experienced in directions from which no visible light reaches the eye. (This makes a contrast with whiteness, the impression of any combination of colors of light that equally stimulates all three types of color-sensitive visual receptors.)

Pigments that absorb light rather than reflect it back to the eye "look black". A black pigment can, however, result from a combination of several pigments that collectively absorb all colors. If appropriate proportions of three primary pigments are mixed, the result reflects so little light as to be called "black".

This provides two superficially opposite but actually complementary descriptions of black. Black is the lack of all colors of light, or an exhaustive combination of multiple colors of pigment
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Originally Posted by C-INRED
White light contains all colors. That's why when you shine it through a prism you see the rainbow of colors...they are all present. Black is just the opposite...the absence of color.

Colors that you see are the result of relected light. If all (white) light is relected it appears white. If no light is relected (all absorbed) it looks black.

This is completely right!

Don't confuse mixing paint to achieve a color, with transmission of light.

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Black is the presence of all pigments and absence of color. White is the presence of all colors and absence of pigments. With black containing all the pigments it absorbs all the color spectrum's of light so you see no color. On the other hand white reflects all the spectrum's for your eye to see.
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Your eyes are receptors that are triggered by electromagnetic radiation that fall in what is known as the visible light spectrum. The sun emits all wavelengths in this region, and that is why it is called a "white" light. It contains all visible wavelengths of the spectrum.

When our cars are sitting in a light, the pigments in the paint reflect or absorb these wavelengths. A black paint absorbs all wavelengths, and reflect none. White is the opposite.

Red absorbs all wavelengths except red, which it reflects. Our eyes receive these wavelengths, and our brain "sees" a red car.

Our cars change color depending on the light that is directed onto it. That is why they look different in mid day sun versus the setting sun. Or sitting under a street light. Each light source has a differerent mix of wavelengths and intensity that is then reflected back to our eyes differently. Since a differnet mix of wavelengths are emitted (reflected) to our eyes, we see a different color.

So, your car has no color. It reflects different wavelengths of light energy, and our brain "sees" color or lack there of.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default So this is as useful and the switch.

This is as useful as knowing the name of the switch on the wall that controls the light. Select down and get "darkon". This is a force of nature, much more powerful than the feeble power of the light.

Useful Huh?
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sscamaro
That's true, Black is the presence of all colors. White is the absence of all colors.
oh goody. now i get to speak as a expert. my parents would now be proud. i'm utilizing my degree in art (which my dad thought was worthless, rest his soul ).

the above captioned quote is correct sir!!!!!!
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"So, your car has no color"

So what you're saying is that GM forgot to paint my car and I should have gotten a huge discount?

Of course black is a color that gets painted onto a car's surface/body.
All corvettes may be red, but the coolest most mean looking ones are black. Don't believe me, ask L.L
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I'm no artist, but I have heard if you mix all colors of paint you get mud or something that looks like mud, not black
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