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Old 02-27-2007, 08:05 PM
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Thanks, interesting info.
Old 02-27-2007, 08:25 PM
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i wonder what john force would say
Old 02-27-2007, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
i wonder what john force would say

Force: "Man, if I had just had Mobil 1 in my ole Hot Rod today I could have beaten Scelzi!"

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Probably they'd never know, but we should mention that any 0W-30 oil does not meet the GM specs (5W-30 only) for a C6, so there is the small possibility they could deny a warranty claim on your engine.
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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
Probably they'd never know, but we should mention that any 0W-30 oil does not meet the GM specs (5W-30 only) for a C6, so there is the small possibility they could deny a warranty claim on your engine.
What spec would they not meet? Ultimately they would have to prove the oil caused the failure if one wanted to press the point.

As for oil freeing up available horsepower, I did read that at one time, Formula 1 cars used a lower viscosity oil to qualify. However, aren't 5W20s used in a lot of new (non performance) vehicles to maximize fuel economy?
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Thanks for the info and post!
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Originally Posted by Deep Blue
What spec would they not meet? Ultimately they would have to prove the oil caused the failure if one wanted to press the point.
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Owners Manual for my 2006 says 5W-30 only, 0W-30 is not approved.

Yes, they have to prove that your non-approved oil caused the problem. Trouble is, they have the lawyers and engineers on staff to do the testimony, you have to hire your own lawyer and expert witnesses. You could easily spend as much money as a new engine. Maybe you win, maybe you lose.

BTW, Blackstone labs told me that they often get oil samples from car companies, presumably from warranty claims where the maker thinks the owner did something bad. Usually, just failing to change the oil. But not always.

Me, I figure my C6 will run longer on Mobil-1 5W-30 than I'll want to own it. So I will run the approved oil while under warranty, think about switching after that.
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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
Owners Manual for my 2006 says 5W-30 only, 0W-30 is not approved.

Yes, they have to prove that your non-approved oil caused the problem. Trouble is, they have the lawyers and engineers on staff to do the testimony, you have to hire your own lawyer and expert witnesses. You could easily spend as much money as a new engine. Maybe you win, maybe you lose.

BTW, Blackstone labs told me that they often get oil samples from car companies, presumably from warranty claims where the maker thinks the owner did something bad. Usually, just failing to change the oil. But not always.

Me, I figure my C6 will run longer on Mobil-1 5W-30 than I'll want to own it. So I will run the approved oil while under warranty, think about switching after that.
Yes, I'm afraid to run anything other than Mobil 1 5W-30 because of the fear of GM not honoring warranty. However, I do believe Patman when he says the German Castrol 0W-30 is a better oil.

I really doubt that GM would test the oil and try to prove that you didn't have an approved oil. Especially if it was a name brand synthetic like the German Castrol. The great thing about the Internet is that local dealers and large companies like GM tend to avoid situations like denying warranty because of the bad press they will get on the net.
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"CSIXS:

Thanx for posting your data. Too bad it made you a target for the more sedentary crowd that sometimes hangs out here.

Keep on tuning - it is nice to see your kind of power numbers without forced induction or nitrous oxide."

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Good info. Thanks for posting this
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Originally Posted by glennhl
Force: "Man, if I had just had Mobil 1 in my ole Hot Rod today I could have beaten Scelzi!"

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That is very interesting and I wonder what caused the difference?
Old 02-28-2007, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
Probably they'd never know, but we should mention that any 0W-30 oil does not meet the GM specs (5W-30 only) for a C6, so there is the small possibility they could deny a warranty claim on your engine.
Actually, Mobil 1 0w30 meets the GM spec:




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