Keeping my engine after warranty replacement
02-15-2015, 02:36 AM
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
Keeping my engine after warranty replacement
Has anyone been successful in retaining the original engine for their cars after a GM warranty replacement? My car wiped out its camshaft at 10,000 miles and is at the dealer having a GM replacement engine installed. They tell me that GM normally wants the engine back for analysis, but that there is a slim chance I can buy the core for $2,000.
My car is a 2013 C6 Z06/Z07 which is one of only 83 cars produced and I think I am rightfully concerned that no longer having a numbers matching engine will have a disproportionately large effect on its sale to anyone concerned with future values. These cars are not Malibus or HHRs and I want to at least be able to offer the original broken engine along with the car.
Any suggestions on the right people to talk to?
My car is a 2013 C6 Z06/Z07 which is one of only 83 cars produced and I think I am rightfully concerned that no longer having a numbers matching engine will have a disproportionately large effect on its sale to anyone concerned with future values. These cars are not Malibus or HHRs and I want to at least be able to offer the original broken engine along with the car.
Any suggestions on the right people to talk to?
02-15-2015, 07:35 AM
#2
Le Mans Master
I would doubt it. Yes, your Z07/PDE optioned car is not "standard" but 83 of the 471 Z06's built that year had it. That's 18%. Not all that rare. If you want a rare 2013 how about the only one ordered with a custom VIN? Of if the factory color was blue. There were only 3 of those built.
02-15-2015, 09:19 AM
#3
Drifting
Yeah if they let you you'd most likely be paying the core charge. But with a warranty claim they might want it back and see what happened. I wouldn't worry about numbers matching. At least I personally wouldn't.
02-15-2015, 09:26 AM
#4
Le Mans Master
I doubt it too. they provided you with an engine when you purchased the car. The replacement engine is now the one you have. Why would they let you have essentially two engines. I can understand them wanting it back.
02-15-2015, 09:31 AM
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Document all the work being done and why it was done. Not your fault and it would not bother me that it had a new engine put in because of warranty if I was looking to buy. I would not want the original engine which is now a boat anchor......
02-15-2015, 09:39 AM
#6
Melting Slicks
I totally understand where you are coming from but like the others have said,we will long be gone when that matters and they are not worth half of what they were bought for new. It will have to be extremely rare to even get back close to what they were new. Enjoy the car
02-15-2015, 11:12 AM
#7
Instructor
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Thanks for the input. I guess I may be being overly sensitive, but I am an avid vintage car collector and I deal with this issue almost daily. With older Corvettes, Porsches, Ferraris and other special cars, "non- Numbers matching" makes the car less desirable and much harder to sell. This is not a serious consideration for "normal" owners of course. Most people never consider the future collectability of their newer cars, and innocently destroy it early on. If there was a Corvette forum in 1970 there probably would have been a lot of guys saying it won't matter if your 2 year old L88 had a GM replacement engine too
There were more of those cars made than Z07's too OF course I'll be a doddering old fool long before it matters to this car!...I am already well on my way
There were more of those cars made than Z07's too
OF course I'll be a doddering old fool long before it matters to this car!...I am already well on my way
Last edited by apex97; 02-15-2015 at 12:20 PM.
02-15-2015, 11:28 AM
#9
Team Owner
One thing to check, they should/probably will, stamp the numbers on the new engine before install.
Example from 2009 piston ring debacle:
Example from 2009 piston ring debacle:
Hey all !
Here's a couple of photos I snapped for you numbers guys this morning. This is a car that was involved the newest service bulletin that requires replacement of the complete 2009 engine assembly.
The question always comes up from the numbers guys................... I won't have matching numbers. Well, you will........ but.
There is a difference in the numbers. I've posted two shots here for you all to see. The first shot is from the factory installed engine in Corvette VIN # 8419. Notice the "engraved" style on the numbers. The lower shot is of the replacement engine for the same car. Notice the replacement has the correct vehicle ID, but the characters are "stamped" in a more traditional style like we see on the early Corvettes.
Just an observation I made and wanted to share with you all !!
Here's a couple of photos I snapped for you numbers guys this morning. This is a car that was involved the newest service bulletin that requires replacement of the complete 2009 engine assembly.
The question always comes up from the numbers guys................... I won't have matching numbers. Well, you will........ but.
There is a difference in the numbers. I've posted two shots here for you all to see. The first shot is from the factory installed engine in Corvette VIN # 8419. Notice the "engraved" style on the numbers. The lower shot is of the replacement engine for the same car. Notice the replacement has the correct vehicle ID, but the characters are "stamped" in a more traditional style like we see on the early Corvettes.
Just an observation I made and wanted to share with you all !!
02-15-2015, 12:14 PM
#10
Instructor
Thread Starter
That's interesting, and new information, I was told that the new engine would have a GM serial number but not one matched to the cars VIN. If they did for me what is shown in the photos, and documented it I'd be fine.
I heard this from others who had engine replacements. I would definitely make sure the engine gets stamped!
02-15-2015, 01:49 PM
#12
Some states allow diminished value claims after accidents and issues such as yours. I am going through this currently with a 3RD party insurance company. The burden of proof for the diminished value amount is on you. If you feel that the car will suffer diminished value due to non matching engine VIN, check out your state laws. Any amount recovered is better than nothing.
