Change XM to Sirius ?
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
That's not the only test.
Here's another one. I haven't been able to find any test that concludes that Sirius has better sound quality... only a post or two on some random forums from a few Sirius fan boys. Nothing done by experts in the field. Also, I doubt the equipment has much to do with it if you stick with name brand stuff. It's a digital data stream so it isn't like you can decode it "wrong". And the bit rate is so low and the sound quality so bad in comparison to even a run of the mill amplifier that I doubt the system itself is going to change the sound quality much. The least common denominator is the abysmal data rates that both XM and Sirius use.
Mike
Here's another one. I haven't been able to find any test that concludes that Sirius has better sound quality... only a post or two on some random forums from a few Sirius fan boys. Nothing done by experts in the field. Also, I doubt the equipment has much to do with it if you stick with name brand stuff. It's a digital data stream so it isn't like you can decode it "wrong". And the bit rate is so low and the sound quality so bad in comparison to even a run of the mill amplifier that I doubt the system itself is going to change the sound quality much. The least common denominator is the abysmal data rates that both XM and Sirius use.
Mike
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Originally Posted by Blvdbrawler
XM is horrible! Sirius is so much better and more clear. I dont know about you but XM dosent even play as loud or clear as regular radio! How will it work with the radio/nav systems we have? Software upload or something?
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
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All of the Sirius channels we listened to exhibited the kind of artifacts compressed-data audio codecs generate when low bit rates are used. Most noticeable was a mid- to high-frequency swirling effect that was most evident on slow to moderately fast music with a clear high end - acoustic guitars, cymbals, and strings were the most problematic.[/I][/B]
Here's another link to an independent test
Mike
All of the Sirius channels we listened to exhibited the kind of artifacts compressed-data audio codecs generate when low bit rates are used. Most noticeable was a mid- to high-frequency swirling effect that was most evident on slow to moderately fast music with a clear high end - acoustic guitars, cymbals, and strings were the most problematic.[/I][/B]
Here's another link to an independent test
Mike
However, the two articles you link to are about 4 years old and seriously lacking in anything resembling scientific testing. The one in the cars used systems manufactured by different companies in different car. FM radios under the circumstances would sound different.
The studio article is also lacking in information about what they did or didn't do with respect to receivers to achieve an apples/apples comparison.
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Originally Posted by xs650
However, the two articles you link to are about 4 years old and seriously lacking in anything resembling scientific testing.
Mike
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
I don't know that most people would be interested in the "scientific" aspects such as frequency response or S/N ratios and even if they were, such tests are impractical since you'd have to feed test signals to both satellites and have them broadcast them on an available channel.
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In the car test the description was good enough for the reader to tell that the potential difference in sound quality due to equipment was large, but with no idea which way it would have biased the results.
The studio test lacked even that basic information.
That said, I suspect that what they observed 4 years ago -probably- did a reasonable job of describing the differences 4 years ago.
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Originally Posted by eas
Is there a way to get Sirius intergrated into the car like XM? I have Sirius in my truck and like it better than XM.
At http://www.thesiriusstore.com you will find a link to a GM compatible tuner. Its been a long time coming and may be vapor-ware. Sirius says it will work, however, and the last update I saw said the product would be available April 10. If you email Sirius, they will put your name on a notification list for the product. Installation details are not available, and there may be a difference between the 2005 and 2006 models of C6 because - I beleive - the satellite antenna for the 2006 was moved into the side view mirrors, whereas it was on the roof of the 2005. Not sure about this detail. In any event, installation would seem to require access to the dash innards and that is not a job for the timid.
I've got Sirius and XM is my various vehicles. The news reports I heard today pegged Sirius at 4 million subscribers and XM at 6.5 million. Sound quality seems equal. I like the programming on Sirius better, but it all depends on what you want to listen to.
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Originally Posted by goingdownhill
The news reports I heard today pegged Sirius at 4 million subscribers and XM at 6.5 million. Sound quality seems equal. I like the programming on Sirius better, but it all depends on what you want to listen to.
In the end, having two good competing systems is good for the consumer.
Being able to integrate the other system into a car that came with one system is really nice.
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I am VERY satisfied with XM. Would not consider changing.
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Just finished a 3200 mi round-trip to FL ALONE and i thought XM was great all the way there and back. The news channels were great to have, as well financial channels. Plus got to listen to the NASCAR race from Martinsville. What's great is that you don't have to keep scanning an AM signal to keep continuity with what you're listening to - so glad i got it on our new C6 vert. But i do agree with other comments about the volume level - something doesn't seem quite right!
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BCS Bet for St. Jude '09-'10-'11, '15
Originally Posted by xs650
What's more significant, for those keeping score, is that after a slow start Sirius is rapidly gaining on XM.
In the end, having two good competing systems is good for the consumer.
In the end, having two good competing systems is good for the consumer.
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Wow, this thread reminds me so much of the Passport/Valentine 1 pi$$ing matches of yore!
For the record, I prefer Sirius and I have a Valentine 1
I do wish that both services were an option on all cars. I'm having a bear of a time getting my sirius hardwired into the vette.
Regardless of which you prefer, how can anyone not love the music on satellite versus AM/FM radio. The number of commercials on "free" radio is staggering! That alone should have everyone who can afford it paying up the $13/month!
Justin
For the record, I prefer Sirius and I have a Valentine 1
I do wish that both services were an option on all cars. I'm having a bear of a time getting my sirius hardwired into the vette.
Regardless of which you prefer, how can anyone not love the music on satellite versus AM/FM radio. The number of commercials on "free" radio is staggering! That alone should have everyone who can afford it paying up the $13/month!
Justin