2006 Standard Corvette vs 2006 Z06 performance[merged]
02-22-2006, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Having had the opportunity to step out of a C6 Z51 and step immediately into the C6 Z, the difference is very significant. The most immediately noticeable difference on the street is the ease of losing traction in the gears 1-3. C6 Z51 was only worrisome in 1st.
Acceleration is noticeably quicker too, once you hook.
Acceleration is noticeably quicker too, once you hook.
Had mine out Saturday and 3 rd gear was loose.Will get better as it warms I am sure. 
02-22-2006, 09:30 AM
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Quarter mile times and speeds quoted by GM.
Z06, 6-spd manual, 11.7 sec @ 125 mph
6-spd manual w Z51 12.5 sec @ 115 mph
6-spd manual w/o Z51 12.6 sec @ 115 mph
4-spd auto tranny w Z51 12.9 sec @ 110 mph
4-spd auto tranny w/o Z51 13.0 sec @ 110 mph
Zero to 60 mph times quoted by GM.
Z06, 6-spd manual, 3.7 sec
6-spd manual w Z51 4.1 sec
6-spd manual w/o Z51 4.3 sec
4-spd auto tranny w Z51 4.5 sec
4-spd auto tranny w/o Z51 4.6 sec
2006 6-spd auto tranny times & speeds are supposed to be approximately the same as the 2005 4-spd auto tranny, per Corvette Quarterly magazine.
Z06, 6-spd manual, 11.7 sec @ 125 mph
6-spd manual w Z51 12.5 sec @ 115 mph
6-spd manual w/o Z51 12.6 sec @ 115 mph
4-spd auto tranny w Z51 12.9 sec @ 110 mph
4-spd auto tranny w/o Z51 13.0 sec @ 110 mph
Zero to 60 mph times quoted by GM.
Z06, 6-spd manual, 3.7 sec
6-spd manual w Z51 4.1 sec
6-spd manual w/o Z51 4.3 sec
4-spd auto tranny w Z51 4.5 sec
4-spd auto tranny w/o Z51 4.6 sec
2006 6-spd auto tranny times & speeds are supposed to be approximately the same as the 2005 4-spd auto tranny, per Corvette Quarterly magazine.
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02-22-2006, 10:13 AM
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LG Motorsports has a header, cam, tune package for less than $6k that offers Z-O6 power and still very streetable. With the Z-51 you will get gearing, suspension and brakes. For the average Joe it might be something to think about. 
02-22-2006, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by KILR-RYD
No way..
ding ding ding...thats the right answer..
and btw you forgot the 200 lb weight difference..
ding ding ding...thats the right answer..
and btw you forgot the 200 lb weight difference..
02-22-2006, 10:40 AM
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Zo6 is an ungodly beast on the street. That is a track car that will pass the smog test. Now we are talking about modded c6 but the z06 get 30hp just from headers. You will need about 460 to the ground to overcome the z06. Remember what you must do to a c6 will void warranty to get it there the z06 has a warrenty and you really dont ahve to do anything to it.
02-22-2006, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by drewcorvette
......Also in a head to head race would the z06 blow away a standard corvette or would it be some what close? 
Originally Posted by SilverCoupe
Quarter mile times and speeds quoted by GM.
Z06, 6-spd manual, 11.7 sec @ 125 mph
6-spd manual w Z51 12.5 sec @ 115 mph
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Z06, 6-spd manual, 11.7 sec @ 125 mph
6-spd manual w Z51 12.5 sec @ 115 mph
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02-22-2006, 11:27 AM
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[QUOTE=OregonC6] <in-part>
As all the recent crashes of brand new Z06's indicate the vette may have reached a performance level that few owners can control safely. I cannot personally comprehend the need to have a Z06 instead of the base car unless a person plans to recklessly endanger innocent fellow drivers on the public roads.
Of course, there is the status appeal of the car and I suspect that will be the primary reason most people allow themselves to be robbed blind by the dealers with add on markup above msrp. just my opinions.[/QUOTE] <in-part>
What a crock of………..
Just my opinion!
Jim
As all the recent crashes of brand new Z06's indicate the vette may have reached a performance level that few owners can control safely. I cannot personally comprehend the need to have a Z06 instead of the base car unless a person plans to recklessly endanger innocent fellow drivers on the public roads.
Of course, there is the status appeal of the car and I suspect that will be the primary reason most people allow themselves to be robbed blind by the dealers with add on markup above msrp. just my opinions.[/QUOTE] <in-part>
What a crock of………..
Just my opinion!
Jim
02-22-2006, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by OregonC6
I remember reading a very old magazine article about the 1967 435 hp 427 corvette. I seem to recall that the 0-60 time was 5.5 seconds or something like that.
Now, that car suffered from bad tires for sure and suspension but the engine was a killer and drank the 102 octane avgas of the time. It was a beast for sure.
So let's get real. IMO 4.2 seconds 0-60 or for that matter anything under 5 seconds is blindingly fast. Less than 4 seconds is just plain unreal. So IMO the base vette is VERY fast Z51 or not 4.2 or 4.3 who cares. It's fast as it comes from the factory.
The Z06 is very very very fast. To speak of the Z06 as a lot faster than the base car is accurate. However, things should be kept in perspective that even though this comparison is true the base car itself is super fast.
I am pleased, though, after reading so many posts that talk about the awesome performance capabilities of the vaunted Z51 that it's boosters realize that it, like the non Z51 vette, doesn't come close to the Z06.
As all the recent crashes of brand new Z06's indicate the vette may have reached a performance level that few owners can control safely. I cannot personally comprehend the need to have a Z06 instead of the base car unless a person plans to recklessly endanger innocent fellow drivers on the public roads.
Of course, there is the status appeal of the car and I suspect that will be the primary reason most people allow themselves to be robbed blind by the dealers with add on markup above msrp. just my opinions.
Now, that car suffered from bad tires for sure and suspension but the engine was a killer and drank the 102 octane avgas of the time. It was a beast for sure.
So let's get real. IMO 4.2 seconds 0-60 or for that matter anything under 5 seconds is blindingly fast. Less than 4 seconds is just plain unreal. So IMO the base vette is VERY fast Z51 or not 4.2 or 4.3 who cares. It's fast as it comes from the factory.
The Z06 is very very very fast. To speak of the Z06 as a lot faster than the base car is accurate. However, things should be kept in perspective that even though this comparison is true the base car itself is super fast.
I am pleased, though, after reading so many posts that talk about the awesome performance capabilities of the vaunted Z51 that it's boosters realize that it, like the non Z51 vette, doesn't come close to the Z06.
As all the recent crashes of brand new Z06's indicate the vette may have reached a performance level that few owners can control safely. I cannot personally comprehend the need to have a Z06 instead of the base car unless a person plans to recklessly endanger innocent fellow drivers on the public roads.
Of course, there is the status appeal of the car and I suspect that will be the primary reason most people allow themselves to be robbed blind by the dealers with add on markup above msrp. just my opinions.
While I do not agree with your opinions, indeed I think that they are absurd, especially those outlined in the last few paragraphs of your posts, nontheless myself and no doubt others who own something which is better performing and "other than the base car" will respect them.
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02-23-2006, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by drewcorvette
I am trying to get a feel for the performance difference between the standard corvette vs the z06. Initially I wanted the z06 but due to long lead times, dealerships charging way over MSRP and paying ridiculous rates on parking per month in the city it didn't make sense for me. I have an 06 z51 manual which I feel is fast but I am trying to get a sense of how fast the z06 is compared to the regular corvette. With an extra 100 hp and 60 more ft pounds of torque are we talking day and night when driving the z06. Also in a head to head race would the z06 blow away a standard corvette or would it be some what close?
here is a graph of a C6 with a G5X-3 cam, LG Pro headers, Fast intake and CAI. Compared to the stock Z06. The new Z06 is a bit higher in both hp and torque but not by much.
This is a way to hit nearly the same numbers for about $20k less.
The Z06 is still a little more stout but this was accomplished without taking the heads off of the C6.
Thanks
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02-23-2006, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Fredo
LG Motorsports has a header, cam, tune package for less than $6k that offers Z-O6 power and still very streetable. With the Z-51 you will get gearing, suspension and brakes. For the average Joe it might be something to think about.
Yet, its still not a Z06.
02-23-2006, 11:57 PM
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I had both and got rid of my Z06 for the Z51. Its like saying which plane is better - unless your racing its meaningless. They are boith rockets.
The Z06 is FAST where the Z51 is Fast.
For me came down to comfort so I went with the Auto Z51 Targa.
The Z06 is FAST where the Z51 is Fast.
For me came down to comfort so I went with the Auto Z51 Targa.
02-24-2006, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by OregonC6
I remember reading a very old magazine article about the 1967 435 hp 427 corvette. I seem to recall that the 0-60 time was 5.5 seconds or something like that.
Now, that car suffered from bad tires for sure and suspension but the engine was a killer and drank the 102 octane avgas of the time. It was a beast for sure.
So let's get real. IMO 4.2 seconds 0-60 or for that matter anything under 5 seconds is blindingly fast. Less than 4 seconds is just plain unreal. So IMO the base vette is VERY fast Z51 or not 4.2 or 4.3 who cares. It's fast as it comes from the factory.
The Z06 is very very very fast. To speak of the Z06 as a lot faster than the base car is accurate. However, things should be kept in perspective that even though this comparison is true the base car itself is super fast.
I am pleased, though, after reading so many posts that talk about the awesome performance capabilities of the vaunted Z51 that it's boosters realize that it, like the non Z51 vette, doesn't come close to the Z06.
As all the recent crashes of brand new Z06's indicate the vette may have reached a performance level that few owners can control safely. I cannot personally comprehend the need to have a Z06 instead of the base car unless a person plans to recklessly endanger innocent fellow drivers on the public roads.
Of course, there is the status appeal of the car and I suspect that will be the primary reason most people allow themselves to be robbed blind by the dealers with add on markup above msrp. just my opinions.
Now, that car suffered from bad tires for sure and suspension but the engine was a killer and drank the 102 octane avgas of the time. It was a beast for sure.
So let's get real. IMO 4.2 seconds 0-60 or for that matter anything under 5 seconds is blindingly fast. Less than 4 seconds is just plain unreal. So IMO the base vette is VERY fast Z51 or not 4.2 or 4.3 who cares. It's fast as it comes from the factory.
The Z06 is very very very fast. To speak of the Z06 as a lot faster than the base car is accurate. However, things should be kept in perspective that even though this comparison is true the base car itself is super fast.
I am pleased, though, after reading so many posts that talk about the awesome performance capabilities of the vaunted Z51 that it's boosters realize that it, like the non Z51 vette, doesn't come close to the Z06.
As all the recent crashes of brand new Z06's indicate the vette may have reached a performance level that few owners can control safely. I cannot personally comprehend the need to have a Z06 instead of the base car unless a person plans to recklessly endanger innocent fellow drivers on the public roads.
Of course, there is the status appeal of the car and I suspect that will be the primary reason most people allow themselves to be robbed blind by the dealers with add on markup above msrp. just my opinions.
02-24-2006, 02:35 PM
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I own a non Z-51 6 speed Convertible (2005). I spent about an hour in a friends new Z06 and the difference is huge. For some reason, looking at numbers, IMO, shrinks the performance difference between base and Z06. After I drove the Z06 for an hour, I got in my car and literally thought something was wrong with it. It (my 'vert) felt like my wifes Audi A4 3.0. The two cars, to use Larry Miller's line: "It's the difference between throwing a bullet and shooting it"
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02-24-2006, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by luvc6vette
I had both and got rid of my Z06 for the Z51. Its like saying which plane is better - unless your racing its meaningless. They are boith rockets.
The Z06 is FAST where the Z51 is Fast.
For me came down to comfort so I went with the Auto Z51 Targa.
The Z06 is FAST where the Z51 is Fast.
For me came down to comfort so I went with the Auto Z51 Targa.
02-24-2006, 04:00 PM
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From what I have seen on the Z06 side and seeing dyno numbers, the Z06 rated at 505 HP is vastly underrated. It also seems that the overall power of the car depends on the engine builder.
It also seems that boring a small-block out to 427 cu in has made the engine extremely prone to piston-itis (aka blown pistons) at VERY low mileage.
That being said, if you notice, most speedy cars today seem to be getting stuck in the 3 second-ish 0-60 range. Whats that tell me???? That wer are reaching a threshold that no street car will be able to beat anytime soon.
Are you going to realistically see the difference between 3.5 ish seconds 0-60 (Z06) and 4.1 ish seconds 0-60 (Z51)? Being that close, I seriously doubt that there will ever be the time were all other conditions are exactly the same to get those times side by side to see a difference. So, on any stoplight to stoplight run, its going to be pretty even most of the time.
And, for that matter, depending on area of course, there is typically just too much traffic to play around on the street any faster than 60 ish.
On the track is where the Z06 will really shine. With its power, lighter weight, suspension, braking, etc, you will find that it would just destroy a Z51 in every category possible.
It also seems that boring a small-block out to 427 cu in has made the engine extremely prone to piston-itis (aka blown pistons) at VERY low mileage.
That being said, if you notice, most speedy cars today seem to be getting stuck in the 3 second-ish 0-60 range. Whats that tell me???? That wer are reaching a threshold that no street car will be able to beat anytime soon.
Are you going to realistically see the difference between 3.5 ish seconds 0-60 (Z06) and 4.1 ish seconds 0-60 (Z51)? Being that close, I seriously doubt that there will ever be the time were all other conditions are exactly the same to get those times side by side to see a difference. So, on any stoplight to stoplight run, its going to be pretty even most of the time.
And, for that matter, depending on area of course, there is typically just too much traffic to play around on the street any faster than 60 ish.
On the track is where the Z06 will really shine. With its power, lighter weight, suspension, braking, etc, you will find that it would just destroy a Z51 in every category possible.
02-24-2006, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by midnite902
My Guess is with an additional 90hp, with careful optioning (1SX no options) and accessorizing (lighter wheels and brakes), close the same weight, I will do OK 
Spring and the opening of the tracks will tell the story.
Spring and the opening of the tracks will tell the story.
02-24-2006, 09:52 PM
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pretty huge difference to me, the z51 is really fast, but in the z's acceleration will blow you away, and the sound of the z just adds to that factor. i feel on top of the world when i drive my bro's z. and the z is harder to control. it takes it a driver with experience to drive the car at high speed.
02-24-2006, 10:12 PM
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I posted this once before, but I am looking for a Stinger Exhaust for a C5 and a set of Crhome Wheels to replace the alloys. C5, 98 Targa. Looking for a deal. Welcome any advice about the Stinger Exhaust. I have the Tri-Flow, which is not bad, but lacks growl.
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