Which is faster in acceleration A4 or A6?
09-28-2005, 04:03 PM
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The new issue of Corvette Magazine has an article on the A6. Good reading. They also mentioned something about the '06's having new revised Goodyear EMT's.(compared to the '05's) 
09-28-2005, 05:47 PM
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Really gets funny how all defend their choices---whether it be mn6,a4, or a6---they are all fast cars---and all can get easily blown away by a modded f body or old 80's modded 5.0. But car nuts are car nuts---they need the LATEST and they PAY GOOD for it.
09-28-2005, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SHOOTER 49
Really gets funny how all defend their choices---whether it be mn6,a4, or a6---they are all fast cars---and all can get easily blown away by a modded f body or old 80's modded 5.0. But car nuts are car nuts---they need the LATEST and they PAY GOOD for it.
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09-28-2005, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SH_Eng
Looking at the gear ratios, the A6 should be faster. The A4 first gear ratio of 3.06 with a 3.15 final drive gives a 9.639 ratio. The A6 first gear is 4.02 with a 2.56 rear ratio for a 10.29. Also, since the spacing of the ratios of the A6 are closer, it should stay closer to maximum torque better than the A4. (I have a 2005 A4)
09-28-2005, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SH_Eng
Objectivity award - Must be the engineer in me. Besides, the difference of maybe a tenth of a second 0 to 60 isn't that big a deal for me.
09-28-2005, 11:21 PM
#47
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Originally Posted by SH_Eng
Objectivity award - Must be the engineer in me. Besides, the difference of maybe a tenth of a second 0 to 60 isn't that big a deal for me.
09-29-2005, 12:17 AM
#48
Originally Posted by 04retro
The funny thing is..the difference between the 2 in a 0-60 or 1/4 mile contest is ..at best about 1/10th of a second..maybe if everything is perfect 2/10ths of a second..Your seat of the pants can't tell that difference...its all in the owers mind...paid big mony to sell the 05 to buy the 06 with the 'better' tranny and by god that 06 is sure gonna feel 'faster'..........
In a 1/4 mile drag race at speeds in excess of 100mph, a tenth difference, all else equal, works out to about a car length or a little more.
Lose by 2 tenths and the distance will be enough to fit about 2 cars between your car and the front of his. If you have ever lost a race by 2 tenths, you know what it looks like. All things equal, 60ft times, reaction times, etc, a 2 tenths loss is not as close as some might think.
If your car were 2 tenths quicker than your opponents and you both had equal or very near equal 60ft times, you'd have to sleep the light pretty bad (or make some other error) to lose to him in a drag race. Cut a very good light and get a good 60 on someone you are already 2 tenths quicker than,.. and they have little chance.
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09-29-2005, 12:58 AM
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Damn it... the A6 is a 10th of a sec faster.... crap so how much weight do I have to loose in order to make up that 10th of a second... 
Guys seems everyone forgot the main advantage of the A6 and you can all correct me if Im wrong but I thought the main reason they pushed the A6 is better fuel economy under most driving conditions... I see the 10th of a sec. improvement as a secondary benefit... anyone know how much "better" the A6 is supposed to be compared to the Z51 given thats what everyone is comparing it to here...
Guys seems everyone forgot the main advantage of the A6 and you can all correct me if Im wrong but I thought the main reason they pushed the A6 is better fuel economy under most driving conditions... I see the 10th of a sec. improvement as a secondary benefit... anyone know how much "better" the A6 is supposed to be compared to the Z51 given thats what everyone is comparing it to here...
09-29-2005, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Mocoso
Damn it... the A6 is a 10th of a sec faster.... crap so how much weight do I have to loose in order to make up that 10th of a second...
Guys seems everyone forgot the main advantage of the A6 and you can all correct me if Im wrong but I thought the main reason they pushed the A6 is better fuel economy under most driving conditions... I see the 10th of a sec. improvement as a secondary benefit... anyone know how much "better" the A6 is supposed to be compared to the Z51 given thats what everyone is comparing it to here...
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09-29-2005, 02:08 AM
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FYI... here are the A6 gear ratios:
1st Gear Ratio 4.027
2nd Gear Ratio 2.364
3rd Gear Ratio 1.532
4th Gear Ratio 1.152
5th Gear Ratio 0.852
6th Gear Ratio 0.667
Reverse Ratio 3.064
1st Gear Ratio 4.027
2nd Gear Ratio 2.364
3rd Gear Ratio 1.532
4th Gear Ratio 1.152
5th Gear Ratio 0.852
6th Gear Ratio 0.667
Reverse Ratio 3.064
09-29-2005, 06:55 AM
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Someone mentions a tenth of a second and all of a sudden it is a GIVEN that the a6 is quicker. This reverses previous speculation that the a4 with 3.15 was quicker. I would like to see ----SEE--not read in a car mag---the two go at it . I would suspect they are pretty close. As an a4 owner I indeed hope the a6 is quicker as it shows progress. The a6 HAS to be quicker from a roll at 40 and 80 because these are real DEAD ZONES for the a4. But I don't think the a6 will outperform the a4 at 35 or 75.
09-29-2005, 07:14 AM
#53
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I can't see why Chevy would slow the Vette down, so I would expect the A6 to be quicker by at least 1/10th, but....
Do what I did and hold off on all the fluff options (my car only has a 3.15 rear, yellow paint, and polished rims as options) which have to weigh something, even steven again.
I ran my A4 C6 Vette Vert with only 328 miles on the odo vs a MN6 C6 Vette Vert loaded and broken in from a roll and a stop and beat him both times.
From a dig by 2-3 car lengths and from a roll he was trying to fly by me and I nailed it when he was at my rear bumper and still hel him off and pulled a car length or more.
We all know the 6 speeds are faster, but weight is an issue. He did have his petite wife in the car (100#) so subtract a carlength, but he still should have won.
I love my stripper Vert.
My neighbor should be getting his A6 Vert in a few days, after I BEAT him I'll post up again
His son has a modded EVO (320rwhp/300rwtq) that keeps wanting to run me, I looked for him Sunday but he was not out. Don't worry, I will not lose even though he has AWD and similar rwhp, once he has to shift I'll go by him and if he doesn't launch aggressively at 3000-5000rpms, he will be behind the whole time.
I sell my Viper and my Stang 11.2@124.5 on radials and everyone wants a shot now.
Howard
Do what I did and hold off on all the fluff options (my car only has a 3.15 rear, yellow paint, and polished rims as options) which have to weigh something, even steven again.
I ran my A4 C6 Vette Vert with only 328 miles on the odo vs a MN6 C6 Vette Vert loaded and broken in from a roll and a stop and beat him both times.
From a dig by 2-3 car lengths and from a roll he was trying to fly by me and I nailed it when he was at my rear bumper and still hel him off and pulled a car length or more.
We all know the 6 speeds are faster, but weight is an issue. He did have his petite wife in the car (100#) so subtract a carlength, but he still should have won.
I love my stripper Vert.
My neighbor should be getting his A6 Vert in a few days, after I BEAT him I'll post up again
His son has a modded EVO (320rwhp/300rwtq) that keeps wanting to run me, I looked for him Sunday but he was not out. Don't worry, I will not lose even though he has AWD and similar rwhp, once he has to shift I'll go by him and if he doesn't launch aggressively at 3000-5000rpms, he will be behind the whole time.
I sell my Viper and my Stang 11.2@124.5 on radials and everyone wants a shot now.
Howard
09-29-2005, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple Black C6
I thought since the A-4 has a better gear it will be faster in the 0-60.
09-29-2005, 09:44 AM
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Sorry, but I had to repeat my post #20 here.
Until the magazines do a side by side test over a wide range of speeds, this info is as factual as it gets.
They are very close according to Team Corvette members who actually tested the cars side by side. Depending on the speed of the car when the auto kicks down to a lower gear, sometimes the edge goes to the A4 and sometimes it goes to the A6. From a dead stop, it depends on the speed you accelerate to. 0 to 30 is quicker with one while 0 to 40 is quicker with the other. Same with 0 to 60 and 0 to 70 and any other combination you might do.
Until the magazines do a side by side test over a wide range of speeds, this info is as factual as it gets.
They are very close according to Team Corvette members who actually tested the cars side by side. Depending on the speed of the car when the auto kicks down to a lower gear, sometimes the edge goes to the A4 and sometimes it goes to the A6. From a dead stop, it depends on the speed you accelerate to. 0 to 30 is quicker with one while 0 to 40 is quicker with the other. Same with 0 to 60 and 0 to 70 and any other combination you might do.
09-29-2005, 10:42 AM
#59
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Originally Posted by Another Yellow
Until the magazines do a side by side test over a wide range of speeds, this info is as factual as it gets.
They are very close according to Team Corvette members who actually tested the cars side by side. Depending on the speed of the car when the auto kicks down to a lower gear, sometimes the edge goes to the A4 and sometimes it goes to the A6. From a dead stop, it depends on the speed you accelerate to. 0 to 30 is quicker with one while 0 to 40 is quicker with the other. Same with 0 to 60 and 0 to 70 and any other combination you might do.
They are very close according to Team Corvette members who actually tested the cars side by side. Depending on the speed of the car when the auto kicks down to a lower gear, sometimes the edge goes to the A4 and sometimes it goes to the A6. From a dead stop, it depends on the speed you accelerate to. 0 to 30 is quicker with one while 0 to 40 is quicker with the other. Same with 0 to 60 and 0 to 70 and any other combination you might do.
09-29-2005, 10:46 AM
#60
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Originally Posted by EB20003
I have been seeing this a lot lately. People saying "Oh, the difference is only a tenth or two" when comparing one car to another.
In a 1/4 mile drag race at speeds in excess of 100mph, a tenth difference, all else equal, works out to about a car length or a little more.
Lose by 2 tenths and the distance will be enough to fit about 2 cars between your car and the front of his. If you have ever lost a race by 2 tenths, you know what it looks like. All things equal, 60ft times, reaction times, etc, a 2 tenths loss is not as close as some might think.
If your car were 2 tenths quicker than your opponents and you both had equal or very near equal 60ft times, you'd have to sleep the light pretty bad (or make some other error) to lose to him in a drag race. Cut a very good light and get a good 60 on someone you are already 2 tenths quicker than,.. and they have little chance.
In a 1/4 mile drag race at speeds in excess of 100mph, a tenth difference, all else equal, works out to about a car length or a little more.
Lose by 2 tenths and the distance will be enough to fit about 2 cars between your car and the front of his. If you have ever lost a race by 2 tenths, you know what it looks like. All things equal, 60ft times, reaction times, etc, a 2 tenths loss is not as close as some might think.
If your car were 2 tenths quicker than your opponents and you both had equal or very near equal 60ft times, you'd have to sleep the light pretty bad (or make some other error) to lose to him in a drag race. Cut a very good light and get a good 60 on someone you are already 2 tenths quicker than,.. and they have little chance.
