Message to GM Management
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Message to GM Management
Today GM announced that the roof was falling in. In my little world, maybe I can point out some small details, that when multiplied by thousands of consumers, could be one of the many of GM's problems.
I have researched the C6 until I'm blue in the face. I'm an old fart and getting cranky in my golden years, I am also very particular. I almost ordered a C6 awhile back and then thought better of it. I have decided to wait until the 2006 models come out. And if my issues are not taken care of in 2006, I'll move on. What is my problem with the C6 that prevents me from buying one? Very minor, but a big enough issue to keep me from spending $50k plus.
The ugly XM satellite antenna, and no decent provision for a front license plate. I have a Delphi satellite radio in my car with an antenna the size of a 50 cent piece. It work just fine on the dash.
With most cities putting in red light camera's to catch red light runners, they rely on front and rear license plates to nab these people. This is a multi-million dollar operation for cash strapped governments. Do you think they are going to allow cars to run around without a front license plate? I'm not going to glue a license plate on the front end of any C6 I own. To build the car without this provision is just one example of the downward spiral of GM. Hopefully the overall decline in business they are getting is a wakeup call for the entire corporation. Just my 2 cents.
I have researched the C6 until I'm blue in the face. I'm an old fart and getting cranky in my golden years, I am also very particular. I almost ordered a C6 awhile back and then thought better of it. I have decided to wait until the 2006 models come out. And if my issues are not taken care of in 2006, I'll move on. What is my problem with the C6 that prevents me from buying one? Very minor, but a big enough issue to keep me from spending $50k plus.
The ugly XM satellite antenna, and no decent provision for a front license plate. I have a Delphi satellite radio in my car with an antenna the size of a 50 cent piece. It work just fine on the dash.
With most cities putting in red light camera's to catch red light runners, they rely on front and rear license plates to nab these people. This is a multi-million dollar operation for cash strapped governments. Do you think they are going to allow cars to run around without a front license plate? I'm not going to glue a license plate on the front end of any C6 I own. To build the car without this provision is just one example of the downward spiral of GM. Hopefully the overall decline in business they are getting is a wakeup call for the entire corporation. Just my 2 cents.
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It is worth noting that Coblat owners get a 4 yr/50K milage warranty on their 'NOT TOP OF THE HILL' vehicle while you still screw Vette owners....It would also be nice to be treated like I spent 55K on a car when I head into the service department and not like some azz you have to find a fancy we can't help you excuse for..
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Thousands of words have been written about the XM WART...Dont order the damn thing....Hundreds of people have given my C6 a complete ,examination and not one has even mentioned it ...The only ones bothered by it seem to be a handful of Corvette Gurus that need something to complain about....IMHO.....Retro a Delphi...play a cd whatever.....plate bracket....That might be a real issue.....So its down to the plate bracket for your real excuse as to not buy one of the best performance cars in the world........Keep sitting on the porch and watch your life go by...........NOT ME.....
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I hear ya brother...the license plate thing is an issue here in VA. I guess I'm going to wait until I get a ticket before I try the adhesive license plate bracket. Even than, I still might not do it. Does anyone have any data on how well the current bracket stays put if installed correctly?
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I'm pretty sure most car manufacturers with XM or Sirius have an external antenna. Again, as mentioned earlier, it is an option and is optional to you (based on your .02).
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Originally Posted by WhiteDiamond
It is worth noting that Coblat owners get a 4 yr/50K milage warranty on their 'NOT TOP OF THE HILL' vehicle while you still screw Vette owners....It would also be nice to be treated like I spent 55K on a car when I head into the service department and not like some azz you have to find a fancy we can't help you excuse for..
Todd
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They will be fixing XM antenna. Don't see them doing anything as far as the front plate. You are all welcome to move to Indiana. We don't have front plates.
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Yea...
Much as I'd like to have stayed with my GM Position, I got stopped out of the stock yesterday. Even with the 6% dividend I'm afraid there is more pain on the horizon for GM Stock.
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If you're an old fart now, how old are you going to be when someone finally designs a car with every single aspect made the way you want it?
Life is full of compromises. Don't order the XM, ignore it, paint it, whatever. There are a few alternatives to a front plate if you want to run one. Everyone who has ever owned a car is going to have a pet peeve or two, and everyone's pet peeve(s) will be different. Overlook the little stuff and enjoy the greatness of the C6.
Mike
Life is full of compromises. Don't order the XM, ignore it, paint it, whatever. There are a few alternatives to a front plate if you want to run one. Everyone who has ever owned a car is going to have a pet peeve or two, and everyone's pet peeve(s) will be different. Overlook the little stuff and enjoy the greatness of the C6.
Mike
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Originally Posted by sacramentobuoy
Today GM announced that the roof was falling in. In my little world, maybe I can point out some small details, that when multiplied by thousands of consumers, could be one of the many of GM's problems.
I have researched the C6 until I'm blue in the face. I'm an old fart and getting cranky in my golden years, I am also very particular. I almost ordered a C6 awhile back and then thought better of it. I have decided to wait until the 2006 models come out. And if my issues are not taken care of in 2006, I'll move on. What is my problem with the C6 that prevents me from buying one? Very minor, but a big enough issue to keep me from spending $50k plus.
The ugly XM satellite antenna, and no decent provision for a front license plate. I have a Delphi satellite radio in my car with an antenna the size of a 50 cent piece. It work just fine on the dash.
With most cities putting in red light camera's to catch red light runners, they rely on front and rear license plates to nab these people. This is a multi-million dollar operation for cash strapped governments. Do you think they are going to allow cars to run around without a front license plate? I'm not going to glue a license plate on the front end of any C6 I own. To build the car without this provision is just one example of the downward spiral of GM. Hopefully the overall decline in business they are getting is a wakeup call for the entire corporation. Just my 2 cents.
I have researched the C6 until I'm blue in the face. I'm an old fart and getting cranky in my golden years, I am also very particular. I almost ordered a C6 awhile back and then thought better of it. I have decided to wait until the 2006 models come out. And if my issues are not taken care of in 2006, I'll move on. What is my problem with the C6 that prevents me from buying one? Very minor, but a big enough issue to keep me from spending $50k plus.
The ugly XM satellite antenna, and no decent provision for a front license plate. I have a Delphi satellite radio in my car with an antenna the size of a 50 cent piece. It work just fine on the dash.
With most cities putting in red light camera's to catch red light runners, they rely on front and rear license plates to nab these people. This is a multi-million dollar operation for cash strapped governments. Do you think they are going to allow cars to run around without a front license plate? I'm not going to glue a license plate on the front end of any C6 I own. To build the car without this provision is just one example of the downward spiral of GM. Hopefully the overall decline in business they are getting is a wakeup call for the entire corporation. Just my 2 cents.
"We don' need no stinkin' front plate..."
Lots of us have C6s and live in states that mandate a front plate, and most of us run without a front plate anyway... Just keep it in the car incase you get stopped...
Old fart...? Depends on you're point of view... I'm a 50 something, but certainly don't feel like an "old fart"... In fact, every time I slip my C6 on, I feel like an 18 year old...
Like I said, if that's all that's stopping you, you must not want one very badly...
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Wow such a long list of serious problems
I do not think the antenna is bad looking. Now the front license plate is ugly. I did not put it on my car and will pay the tickets if needed. Face it a front plate is dog ugly on all cars. Now after reading your long list of serious problems, this tells me this car is not for you. This is my first Vette; I was always in German cars. But when I saw the C6 and had a chance to drive one ,I had to have that car. I love the way it looks, could it be better? yes, is it a problem ? hell no because for 55k I’m getting the biggest bang for my buck and I have one of the best looking sports car on the road. Do I hear an AMEN?
Originally Posted by sacramentobuoy
Today GM announced that the roof was falling in. In my little world, maybe I can point out some small details, that when multiplied by thousands of consumers, could be one of the many of GM's problems.
I have researched the C6 until I'm blue in the face. I'm an old fart and getting cranky in my golden years, I am also very particular. I almost ordered a C6 awhile back and then thought better of it. I have decided to wait until the 2006 models come out. And if my issues are not taken care of in 2006, I'll move on. What is my problem with the C6 that prevents me from buying one? Very minor, but a big enough issue to keep me from spending $50k plus.
The ugly XM satellite antenna, and no decent provision for a front license plate. I have a Delphi satellite radio in my car with an antenna the size of a 50 cent piece. It work just fine on the dash.
With most cities putting in red light camera's to catch red light runners, they rely on front and rear license plates to nab these people. This is a multi-million dollar operation for cash strapped governments. Do you think they are going to allow cars to run around without a front license plate? I'm not going to glue a license plate on the front end of any C6 I own. To build the car without this provision is just one example of the downward spiral of GM. Hopefully the overall decline in business they are getting is a wakeup call for the entire corporation. Just my 2 cents.
I have researched the C6 until I'm blue in the face. I'm an old fart and getting cranky in my golden years, I am also very particular. I almost ordered a C6 awhile back and then thought better of it. I have decided to wait until the 2006 models come out. And if my issues are not taken care of in 2006, I'll move on. What is my problem with the C6 that prevents me from buying one? Very minor, but a big enough issue to keep me from spending $50k plus.
The ugly XM satellite antenna, and no decent provision for a front license plate. I have a Delphi satellite radio in my car with an antenna the size of a 50 cent piece. It work just fine on the dash.
With most cities putting in red light camera's to catch red light runners, they rely on front and rear license plates to nab these people. This is a multi-million dollar operation for cash strapped governments. Do you think they are going to allow cars to run around without a front license plate? I'm not going to glue a license plate on the front end of any C6 I own. To build the car without this provision is just one example of the downward spiral of GM. Hopefully the overall decline in business they are getting is a wakeup call for the entire corporation. Just my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by juiceman03070
Thousands of words have been written about the XM WART...Dont order the damn thing....Hundreds of people have given my C6 a complete ,examination and not one has even mentioned it ...The only ones bothered by it seem to be a handful of Corvette Gurus that need something to complain about....IMHO.....Retro a Delphi...play a cd whatever.....plate bracket....That might be a real issue.....So its down to the plate bracket for your real excuse as to not buy one of the best performance cars in the world........Keep sitting on the porch and watch your life go by...........NOT ME.....
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The rumors are that the XM antenna will be in the outside mirrors next year. There are several aftermarket companies offering alternate ways to mount the front license plate.
When I saw the first pictures of the XM antenna on a C6, I was appalled. Of course, all those pictures were taken from a few inches to a foot away to make it look even worse. I've got the XM radio and I don't even notice the antenna. Of the 25-30 people who have commented on my car, not a one has said ANYTHING about the antenna, either good or bad.
It's up to you how strongly you feel about those 2 issues, but if you continue to let them keep you from getting one, you're really missing a great car.
When I saw the first pictures of the XM antenna on a C6, I was appalled. Of course, all those pictures were taken from a few inches to a foot away to make it look even worse. I've got the XM radio and I don't even notice the antenna. Of the 25-30 people who have commented on my car, not a one has said ANYTHING about the antenna, either good or bad.
It's up to you how strongly you feel about those 2 issues, but if you continue to let them keep you from getting one, you're really missing a great car.
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In RI we need front plate but I'll see how long I can go without it cause I don't want to kill the looks and like they said before the antenna should be in mirrors so one less thing to whine about.
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Originally Posted by sacramentobuoy
.....And if my issues are not taken care of in 2006, I'll move on. .....
Early GM wind tunnel test pictures show the front plate mounted as it is now, so it wasn't an afterthought. They won't be changing that anytime soon.
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I was worried that you came up with a real problem. Myself, I dont have XM, and I put the lower plate on the C6, and it looks OK, and much better than putting it on the top of the bumber!
You got to love it, it's a great car man!
You got to love it, it's a great car man!
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Originally Posted by jazzlove
No offense, but if you're letting either of those get in the way, then you must not want a C6 very badly. You've got a Delphi Roady... Ok, so you've got XM.... The antenna will be hidden in 06' anyway.... Front plate? What front plate?
"We don' need no stinkin' front plate..."
Lots of us have C6s and live in states that mandate a front plate, and most of us run without a front plate anyway... Just keep it in the car incase you get stopped...
Old fart...? Depends on you're point of view... I'm a 50 something, but certainly don't feel like an "old fart"... In fact, every time I slip my C6 on, I feel like an 18 year old...
Like I said, if that's all that's stopping you, you must not want one very badly...
"We don' need no stinkin' front plate..."
Lots of us have C6s and live in states that mandate a front plate, and most of us run without a front plate anyway... Just keep it in the car incase you get stopped...
Old fart...? Depends on you're point of view... I'm a 50 something, but certainly don't feel like an "old fart"... In fact, every time I slip my C6 on, I feel like an 18 year old...
Like I said, if that's all that's stopping you, you must not want one very badly...
I feel the same way about the XM antenna, so I ordered my vert without it, installed an XM commander, put the small antenna behind the passanger seat works great....... No front plate in Fla, No state income tax either