Ultra_Miner

Automobile magazine has a first drive review of the new Stingray. Here are a few stats from the article:
Price: $51,995/$69,775 (base/as tested)
Powertrain Engine: 16-valve OHV Displacement: 6.2 liters (376 cu in) Power: 460 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 465 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm
Transmission: 7-speed manual
Drive: Rear-wheel Chassis / Steering: Electrically assisted Front Suspension: Control arms, transverse leaf spring Rear Suspension: Control arms, transverse leaf spring
Brakes: Vented discs, ABS
Tires: Michelin Pilot Super Sport ZP Tire sizes F, R: 245/35R-19 (89Y), 285/30R-20 (95Y)
Measurements L x W x H: 177.0 x 73.9 x 48.6 in
Wheelbase: 106.7 in Track F/R: 62.8/61.6 in
Weight: 3402 lb
Weight dist. F/R: 50/50%
0-60 mph: 4.1 sec
Top Speed: 185 mph (est.)
EPA mileage: 17/29 mpg (est.)

Looks like they weigh about 300 lbs more than us, about the same 0-60 and mpg. Glad to know my 11 year old Chevy with a 350 can still hang! and at half the price! Rock on C5 Z06!

Masterofsod

Wow! More evidence that the C5 Z06 is a phenomenal car! When you think about bang per $ you just can't beat it!

dangerz

Numbers don't tell the whole story. Don't get me wrong, I love my c5z, but there's no doubt in my mind that stock for stock the c7 is going to teach us a lesson or two around the track.

vant

That may or may not be true. But I can't wait to find out for myself.

Ultra_Miner

Sure the new suspension should be better. But as you can see they are saying 1.07 g on the skid pad for the C7 vs. C5Z06 at what .98 to 1 g.
Then braking I believe they say 60 to 0 107', vs. 104' for the C5Z. Just goes to show you the guys that engineered our cars did a phenomenal engineering job using 11 year old technology. Still relevant in todays terms. Gotta love it.

racebum

has almost nothing to do with tech and everything to do with tires

the supercar the c5z spec'd on will get its *** handed to it by the michelin pss

put a c5z on the pss in 305 30 19 and 265 35 18 and i'm sure it could meet or beat those numbers. it's a lighter car

Ultra_Miner

That's what I'm saying, 11 year old tech, the GY Supercar tire, and they still pulled those specs. I agree put modern tires on the C5Z and watch out. Oh and all the light weight talk GM has out about the C7 and they still get a car that is 300 lbs. heavier. If I were a C5Z GM engineer I would be very proud of myself, you guys did a helluva job, thank you!

Also I find it funny when Chevy announced the price of the C7 at +/- $55,000 and all the cars the reviewers are getting are closer to $70,000 as tested.

joenationwide

The new C7 starts at $51k. The Z51 package is only $2800. So thats $54k. The $70k cars are loaded with all the leather and plush BS.

The C5Z was a phenomenal car when it launched, and still is. Its also the best performance value out there. But the C7 is still a leap in technology and performance from the C5Z. Remember we are comparing a C7 non Z06 to the C5 Z06. The C7 Z06 should be something.

Driver220

If you watch the motortrend review, they pulled 1.11g on the skidpad o_O

envyz06

Both are great cars, but still c5z bang for your buck is unmistakable.

DARRYLZO6

Not only that but with minor mods,headers, CAI, and tuning, a stock C7 will be in my rearview mirror for sho!!!

racebum

leap in tech yes

leap in performance? how exactly are we measuring performance?

c5z is what? 300lbs lighter and has a very similar frame and suspension layout?

where's the performance leap? the only reason the text numbers look good is that michelin pss, well, unless you're looking at straight line stuff which is just a hp contest

would love to see a c7 on goodyear supercars. anyone want to guess what the slalom and skidpad would be?

as for price the only other 20k car i can think of that competes with the c5z for track terrorist is the evo 8/9

joenationwide

Well the C5Z is not really track ready without upgrading the radiator and adding an EOC and diff cooler, and probably a trans cooler too. The C7 Z51 comes with all these things stock plus a dry sump. Better radiator cooling and reduces front and rear end lift for better aero. And it comes with 2 pc floating rotors. Also comes with better bolstered seats. And a 7 speed close ratio gearbox, so now you can use more than 3-4th gear on track. Right there says to me it is track ready. The performance leap is dramatic from c5 to c7. It's minor from c5z to c7 z51, but I'd have to think there will be no contest compared to the c7z.

skyavonee

You can run these cars pretty damn hard in 20-minute HPDE sessions without aftermarket cooling.

No need to jump ahead two generations; there's no contest between the C5Z and C6Z. Obviously the C7Z will stomp us, whenever it's released.

racebum

we'll have to see

GM doesn't have a good record of making cars that are track ready.

the c5z can run a 15 minute session stock

the dry sump is a big deal if you run slicks

we'll have to see how this all goes for the c7. would surprise me if GM spent the money to actually do this to any effective degree

the seats and transmission are kind of cool but the main reason i would think people would upgrade are

1. cosmetics
2. it's new

PushinTheLimit

Overall, the C7 is a better car than the C5Z. The brakes, the interior, the cooling mods, among other things is a nice upgrade. But the added weight keeps the C5Z competitive with it.

What I would like to see is take a bone stock C7, C6 LS3, C6 LS2, C6 Z06, C5 Z06 and a C5 LS1, all with the same tires and go run a track like VIR or Road Atlanta and see what kind of lap times can be run in them back to back. And don't use the VIR Grand Course since that's not what is normally raced on. This would give a good indication of how each car compares to one another IMO.

amlarson2001

The other big thing with the new C7 is it will be much easier to drive fast for any skill level driver. The tech they have there is going to make the car more fun for everyone. Base c7 is not the track car like our Z's. The only reason I will be keeping my 02 is because I cant afford a new C7. And remember your car was 50k when you bought it new. The fact that they can keep the base price just over 50k is amazing considering its been 10+ years.

JeremyGSU

I suppose but I think this is going to very greatly by what track you are at. You'll also probably get it hot as hell which isn't good for it. Prior to my radiator at Sebring in May and June I was hitting 235-245 water in about 15 minutes in my '04 Z. Even with my Doug Rippie oil cooler I still hit 255-260 oil depending on the temp and how long I go.

IMO, the C5 Z will be close to competitive with a C7 in a straight line but fall short in handling and braking. The brakes are just too small with not enough cooling stock and I think the C7 has handling improvements over the C5 as well. The interior and tech is also leaps and bounds over the C5.

Still, it's amazing that for my car nearly being 10 years old the performance is still amazing even today. Most other model cars have been vastly surpassed by their new generations. The C5 Z is still hanging in there.

LSxFTMFW

This would be awesome.

tbrent

Coulda swore I just saw it confirmed somewhere that there won't be a C7Z... Maybe I'm wrong. But if there IS one hopefully they will scrap that god awful back side for a Z06 specific one... YIKES Looks part Camaro part Decepticon