[Z06] GM Replacement Parts Made in China??
#22
Le Mans Master
No way, brother. Gun-wielding, God-fearing, red meat-eating, gas hog-driving Republican here.
That figures. At least the HQ is in California. Why can't the Amish make TVs here? LOL
I just pulled my Vizio away from the wall......MADE IN CHINA!!!!! I told you everything is made in China!! LOL
#23
Tech Contributor
I don't mind the Camaro's being made in Canada. My LS6 was made in Canada too and its running strong. Yea I'm a Canuck... How did you know...
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#24
Le Mans Master
#25
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I wasn't trying to start a trading war but this is obviously a hot button item. The main country I was trying to avoid was China. When I order parts for my 71 corvette I always ask if the parts are made in China versus the USA--if the answer is yes--China--I decline them. I assumed that since a 2002 was so new that genuine GM parts for it would be made in the USA--I was wrong.
#27
This is hilarious. Who cares where something comes from? I buy what I want to buy based on how the end product performs not who gets the profits. Ive done two tours in Iraq and about to do my third in Afgannyland. Does this mean im going to boycot oil? No.
Pearl Harbor was a sad day in American history but lets face it, that was over 60 years ago. Sorry. Again to each his own- but thats what makes America so great we have the choice to make a choice.
Pearl Harbor was a sad day in American history but lets face it, that was over 60 years ago. Sorry. Again to each his own- but thats what makes America so great we have the choice to make a choice.
#29
#30
Because your attitude toward a car manufacturer headquartered in another country is based on an unrelated event that happened almost 70 years ago. People with such a closed mindset are generally of the baby boomer generation.
Nobody is asking anyone to forget history. However, that is exactly what it is---history. Past tense. Over. Nobody alive today who actually attacked Pearl Harbor works for Toyota. I don't think 90-year-old Mitsubishi Zero pilots are cashing any checks from USA Camry sales.
Why would I do that? Considering I want my kids to be smart, I would remind them that it was Al-Qaeda terrorists who attacked us on 9/11.
Certainly you aren't accusing me of not having any USA pride. Statements like that will get you hurt. "Pride" has nothing to do with this discussion. In a global economy, products and services from around the world are manufactured and exchanged daily. Sorry to burst your stars and stripes dream bubble, but it just isn't 1955 any more. You can sing "baseball, hotdogs, apple pie and Chevrolet" all day long, but there isn't much very American about a Camaro built in Canada with Chinese parts made by the lowest bidder. Does that make it a bad car? Heck, no. It just isn't made here. Chances are favorable that if the car was 100% made in the USA, nobody could afford it. Maybe that is a labor union discussion for another day...
What are you talking about? Nobody is acting like it didn't happen. Many of us have relatives who died in that attack. You just seem to hold a grudge against a whole country who is currently our ally. Hey, guess what? The British invaded us, too, but my girlfriend drives a Jaguar. My mom is Polish, but she drives a Mercedes-Benz.
I am sure you are familiar with the good ol' American tractor company John Deere, right? Nothing says "born in the USA" like a midwestern farmer riding his green John Deere. Well guess what US company was one of the first to help rebuild Japan right after we defeated them? Guess what US company partnered with the same Japanese diesel engine company who built the diesel engines for the Japanese aircraft carriers who attacked Pearl Harbor? Guess what US company is still using those Japanese partner engines in their tractors sold in the USA today? Yes. John Deere.
In closing, you need to check yourself. If you are a Corvette owner complaining about Japanese companies simply because they attacked us in WWII, you should sell your car. Those Chinese parts in your Vette are made in the same country who supported North Korea and North Viet Nam during those two wars...
Nobody is asking anyone to forget history. However, that is exactly what it is---history. Past tense. Over. Nobody alive today who actually attacked Pearl Harbor works for Toyota. I don't think 90-year-old Mitsubishi Zero pilots are cashing any checks from USA Camry sales.
Why would I do that? Considering I want my kids to be smart, I would remind them that it was Al-Qaeda terrorists who attacked us on 9/11.
Certainly you aren't accusing me of not having any USA pride. Statements like that will get you hurt. "Pride" has nothing to do with this discussion. In a global economy, products and services from around the world are manufactured and exchanged daily. Sorry to burst your stars and stripes dream bubble, but it just isn't 1955 any more. You can sing "baseball, hotdogs, apple pie and Chevrolet" all day long, but there isn't much very American about a Camaro built in Canada with Chinese parts made by the lowest bidder. Does that make it a bad car? Heck, no. It just isn't made here. Chances are favorable that if the car was 100% made in the USA, nobody could afford it. Maybe that is a labor union discussion for another day...
What are you talking about? Nobody is acting like it didn't happen. Many of us have relatives who died in that attack. You just seem to hold a grudge against a whole country who is currently our ally. Hey, guess what? The British invaded us, too, but my girlfriend drives a Jaguar. My mom is Polish, but she drives a Mercedes-Benz.
I am sure you are familiar with the good ol' American tractor company John Deere, right? Nothing says "born in the USA" like a midwestern farmer riding his green John Deere. Well guess what US company was one of the first to help rebuild Japan right after we defeated them? Guess what US company partnered with the same Japanese diesel engine company who built the diesel engines for the Japanese aircraft carriers who attacked Pearl Harbor? Guess what US company is still using those Japanese partner engines in their tractors sold in the USA today? Yes. John Deere.
In closing, you need to check yourself. If you are a Corvette owner complaining about Japanese companies simply because they attacked us in WWII, you should sell your car. Those Chinese parts in your Vette are made in the same country who supported North Korea and North Viet Nam during those two wars...
Let's remember that in WW II China was our ally and Japan the enemy. Five years after the war, China was the enemy and Japan our ally. What happened? The Cold War.
Situations change, but not always in the way you might want, and you can't step into the same river twice. A country has to deal with those situations based on national interest. Individuals usually do the same, to wit the success of Wal-Mart, no matter where the goods on the shelves are made.
How did the auto industry become internationalized? My MINI Cooper was manufactured in Oxford England by BMW, and the engine was built in Brazil. In the 1970s, Japan started the process, using superior quality control methods developed by an American, W.E. Deming, that attracted Americans to reliable, affordable, and well-designed cars. It took awhile for the "Big Three" to catch up, and one way to do it was to farm out auto components to manufacturers overseas.
But don't rag on the Japanese. The country was led down a dark and destructive path by unchecked militaristic expansionists. Bad political system. But the society was turned around after the war and became a flourishing democracy. The U.S. contributed a lot to the rebuilding, and the Japanese people deserve credit for the progress. Perfect deal? No. Japan still needs to come to terms with the brutalities committed by the government throughout East and Southeast Asia. And China will soon be nipping at all automakers'
heels. Already the South Koreans are!
#32
Melting Slicks
Most corporations today are not entirely based and do not manufacture goods that are 100% American. Face it, we live in a global type economy.
American based companies will always have some operations in other countries. It is not always based on cheap labor, it is simply the cost of doing business on a global scale.
The same is true of companies whose businesses are primarily based in other countries (like Japan, Germany, etc). Japan (Honda, Toyota, etc) operate plants in America to avoid taxes and provide incentives for Americans to buy their products. Same for true for Mercedes in Germany.
That's just the way it is folks.
I am all for supporting American based companies and buying American products. However, if you are looking for 100% American owned and made, you will be looking at specialty products only. Just not how the world works today.
I will always have a special place in my heart and wallet for GM, Ford, Chrysler, and especially GM (my dad worked for GM all his adult life). GM and Ford have really stepped up their game and make great products once again (they put the engineers not bean counters back in charge). But the truth is manufacturing wise, Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Kia, and Mercedes hire and pay a lot of American workers and are bringing billions into our US economy. That's not a bad thing, it is a good one.
American based companies will always have some operations in other countries. It is not always based on cheap labor, it is simply the cost of doing business on a global scale.
The same is true of companies whose businesses are primarily based in other countries (like Japan, Germany, etc). Japan (Honda, Toyota, etc) operate plants in America to avoid taxes and provide incentives for Americans to buy their products. Same for true for Mercedes in Germany.
That's just the way it is folks.
I am all for supporting American based companies and buying American products. However, if you are looking for 100% American owned and made, you will be looking at specialty products only. Just not how the world works today.
I will always have a special place in my heart and wallet for GM, Ford, Chrysler, and especially GM (my dad worked for GM all his adult life). GM and Ford have really stepped up their game and make great products once again (they put the engineers not bean counters back in charge). But the truth is manufacturing wise, Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Kia, and Mercedes hire and pay a lot of American workers and are bringing billions into our US economy. That's not a bad thing, it is a good one.
#33
Le Mans Master
#34
Safety Car
Someone said not long back jobs were coming back to the US anybody know when that might happen .. Waiting .. Yep I remenber that guy now the one in the WH.. That's him.. Still wanting ..
#35
Drifting
Well at lest BMW and MB SUV's are made in the USA.... go figure.
Mark.
Mark.
#36
Burning Brakes
I've never had a Toyota I didn't love, including the Green Dragon. Most of them were made in Japan though.
#37
Le Mans Master
#38
Le Mans Master
"love it or leave it" is my motto and would prefer made in USA but have 3 toyota's (one made in usa but prefer japan, better made from my experience) 3 vettes, newest 03Z, and 93 chevy truck, all have been superior vehicles for me. my other motto is "to each their own" including how one thinks.
Last edited by LT1driver; 12-19-2017 at 11:51 PM.
#39
Burning Brakes
90 Corolla
90 Supra
94 Camry
00 Corolla
00 Corolla
That 94 or yours had 250K on it when I sold it to it's next owner. Still ran perfect.
#40
Le Mans Master