Torco Octane Test Results...
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Torco Octane Test Results...
OK Folks, here are the results from Saybolt Labs in Carson Ca, 310-513-2035.
I mixed 2.5 Gallons of Crappy California Chevron 91 octane gas with 8 ounces of Torco Concentrated Race fuel. I mixed them together in a 5 gallon jug and then sent a sample to the lab for testing.
Here are the results. As you can see we effectively raised the octane to 96.5 from 91 octane. This means that if you use $9.00 worth of Torco(the cost of 1 Quart delivered if you are buying it by the 5 gallon can) mixed with 10 gallons of 91, You will have just over 10 gallons of 96.5 octane fuel. This will cost you 10 times $2.25 plus $9.00 or $31.50.
To do this with 100 octane mixed with 91 octane it will cost you $30 for 6 gallons of 100 plus $9.00 for the 4 gallons of 91 for a total of $39.00. This will give you 96.4 octane fuel.
I've now stepped up to the plate and welcome anyone who questions the results to please duplicate the test and send it to this or any other official lab of their choice.
JB
JOEL FEINGOLD Date Reported: 10/27/0
J.B.'S VENDING Date Received: 10/25/04
Analytical Report
Test Result Units Method Date Analyst
Sample Number: 141231-001 Sample ID:
Torco Race Fuel Concentrate Mixed with 91 octane fuel
Sample Date: Description: Octane
Research Octane (RON) 101.2
Motor Octane (MON) 91.8
R+M/2 96.5
141231-001 RON represents the octane value measured with the knock engine set to ideal conditions; the
MON is the octane measured with the engine set to harsh conditions. The R+M/2 is the
average of the two and is what is posted on the pump. Though there is some variance from
product to product, a premium grade gasoline, with a R+M/2 of 91, will typically have an RON
of around 96 and an MON of around 86.
Approved By:
GREG L. COOK
ASSISTANT MANAGER
I mixed 2.5 Gallons of Crappy California Chevron 91 octane gas with 8 ounces of Torco Concentrated Race fuel. I mixed them together in a 5 gallon jug and then sent a sample to the lab for testing.
Here are the results. As you can see we effectively raised the octane to 96.5 from 91 octane. This means that if you use $9.00 worth of Torco(the cost of 1 Quart delivered if you are buying it by the 5 gallon can) mixed with 10 gallons of 91, You will have just over 10 gallons of 96.5 octane fuel. This will cost you 10 times $2.25 plus $9.00 or $31.50.
To do this with 100 octane mixed with 91 octane it will cost you $30 for 6 gallons of 100 plus $9.00 for the 4 gallons of 91 for a total of $39.00. This will give you 96.4 octane fuel.
I've now stepped up to the plate and welcome anyone who questions the results to please duplicate the test and send it to this or any other official lab of their choice.
JB
JOEL FEINGOLD Date Reported: 10/27/0
J.B.'S VENDING Date Received: 10/25/04
Analytical Report
Test Result Units Method Date Analyst
Sample Number: 141231-001 Sample ID:
Torco Race Fuel Concentrate Mixed with 91 octane fuel
Sample Date: Description: Octane
Research Octane (RON) 101.2
Motor Octane (MON) 91.8
R+M/2 96.5
141231-001 RON represents the octane value measured with the knock engine set to ideal conditions; the
MON is the octane measured with the engine set to harsh conditions. The R+M/2 is the
average of the two and is what is posted on the pump. Though there is some variance from
product to product, a premium grade gasoline, with a R+M/2 of 91, will typically have an RON
of around 96 and an MON of around 86.
Approved By:
GREG L. COOK
ASSISTANT MANAGER
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Originally Posted by jbsblownc5
OK Folks, here are the results from Saybolt Labs in Carson Ca, 310-513-2035.
I mixed 2.5 Gallons of Crappy California Chevron 91 octane gas with 8 ounces of Torco Concentrated Race fuel. I mixed them together in a 5 gallon jug and then sent a sample to the lab for testing.
Here are the results. As you can see we effectively raised the octane to 96.5 from 91 octane. This means that if you use $9.00 worth of Torco(the cost of 1 Quart delivered if you are buying it by the 5 gallon can) mixed with 10 gallons of 91, You will have just over 10 gallons of 96.5 octane fuel. This will cost you 10 times $2.25 plus $9.00 or $31.50.
To do this with 100 octane mixed with 91 octane it will cost you $30 for 6 gallons of 100 plus $9.00 for the 4 gallons of 91 for a total of $39.00. This will give you 96.4 octane fuel.
I've now stepped up to the plate and welcome anyone who questions the results to please duplicate the test and send it to this or any other official lab of their choice.
JB
JOEL FEINGOLD Date Reported: 10/27/0
J.B.'S VENDING Date Received: 10/25/04
Analytical Report
Test Result Units Method Date Analyst
Sample Number: 141231-001 Sample ID:
Torco Race Fuel Concentrate Mixed with 91 octane fuel
Sample Date: Description: Octane
Research Octane (RON) 101.2
Motor Octane (MON) 91.8
R+M/2 96.5
141231-001 RON represents the octane value measured with the knock engine set to ideal conditions; the
MON is the octane measured with the engine set to harsh conditions. The R+M/2 is the
average of the two and is what is posted on the pump. Though there is some variance from
product to product, a premium grade gasoline, with a R+M/2 of 91, will typically have an RON
of around 96 and an MON of around 86.
Approved By:
GREG L. COOK
ASSISTANT MANAGER
I mixed 2.5 Gallons of Crappy California Chevron 91 octane gas with 8 ounces of Torco Concentrated Race fuel. I mixed them together in a 5 gallon jug and then sent a sample to the lab for testing.
Here are the results. As you can see we effectively raised the octane to 96.5 from 91 octane. This means that if you use $9.00 worth of Torco(the cost of 1 Quart delivered if you are buying it by the 5 gallon can) mixed with 10 gallons of 91, You will have just over 10 gallons of 96.5 octane fuel. This will cost you 10 times $2.25 plus $9.00 or $31.50.
To do this with 100 octane mixed with 91 octane it will cost you $30 for 6 gallons of 100 plus $9.00 for the 4 gallons of 91 for a total of $39.00. This will give you 96.4 octane fuel.
I've now stepped up to the plate and welcome anyone who questions the results to please duplicate the test and send it to this or any other official lab of their choice.
JB
JOEL FEINGOLD Date Reported: 10/27/0
J.B.'S VENDING Date Received: 10/25/04
Analytical Report
Test Result Units Method Date Analyst
Sample Number: 141231-001 Sample ID:
Torco Race Fuel Concentrate Mixed with 91 octane fuel
Sample Date: Description: Octane
Research Octane (RON) 101.2
Motor Octane (MON) 91.8
R+M/2 96.5
141231-001 RON represents the octane value measured with the knock engine set to ideal conditions; the
MON is the octane measured with the engine set to harsh conditions. The R+M/2 is the
average of the two and is what is posted on the pump. Though there is some variance from
product to product, a premium grade gasoline, with a R+M/2 of 91, will typically have an RON
of around 96 and an MON of around 86.
Approved By:
GREG L. COOK
ASSISTANT MANAGER
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jbsblownc5,
Since I was one of the first to express skepticism, I would like to be the one of the first to thank and congratulate you for following thru with these test results. With all of the wild claims being made these days by many companies, the consumer just has to investigate carefully to avoid being unfairly separated from his hard earned money, or worse yet being an beta test subject by the aforementioned companies. Now a question. I believe you stated that MMT is a major ingredient in Torco. Has this caused any early plug fouling in street driven cars of those using it? (MMT does seem to be acknowledged as a contributer to plug fouling)
Thanks,
Barry
Since I was one of the first to express skepticism, I would like to be the one of the first to thank and congratulate you for following thru with these test results. With all of the wild claims being made these days by many companies, the consumer just has to investigate carefully to avoid being unfairly separated from his hard earned money, or worse yet being an beta test subject by the aforementioned companies. Now a question. I believe you stated that MMT is a major ingredient in Torco. Has this caused any early plug fouling in street driven cars of those using it? (MMT does seem to be acknowledged as a contributer to plug fouling)
Thanks,
Barry
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Originally Posted by vettethret
So does this mean 1 can of Torco per full tank of gas is 96 octane? How many bottles of the 6 pack case do you need for a full tank of 91?
a Alittle over one and a half quarts will give you a full tank of 96.5 octane...
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Originally Posted by Old Timer
jbsblownc5,
Since I was one of the first to express skepticism, I would like to be the one of the first to thank and congratulate you for following thru with these test results. With all of the wild claims being made these days by many companies, the consumer just has to investigate carefully to avoid being unfairly separated from his hard earned money, or worse yet being an beta test subject by the aforementioned companies. Now a question. I believe you stated that MMT is a major ingredient in Torco. Has this caused any early plug fouling in street driven cars of those using it? (MMT does seem to be acknowledged as a contributer to plug fouling)
Thanks,
Barry
Since I was one of the first to express skepticism, I would like to be the one of the first to thank and congratulate you for following thru with these test results. With all of the wild claims being made these days by many companies, the consumer just has to investigate carefully to avoid being unfairly separated from his hard earned money, or worse yet being an beta test subject by the aforementioned companies. Now a question. I believe you stated that MMT is a major ingredient in Torco. Has this caused any early plug fouling in street driven cars of those using it? (MMT does seem to be acknowledged as a contributer to plug fouling)
Thanks,
Barry
Thanks Barry!
JB
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Nice..Now all the Naysayers will be running it and catchup to the rest of us
I proved it out on our Chassis Dyno as to wether it worked or not a year ago. Just another piece of the puzzle.
Good Work..
Phil
I proved it out on our Chassis Dyno as to wether it worked or not a year ago. Just another piece of the puzzle.
Good Work..
Phil
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Wow Jb, it's good to see scientific proof. I love the stuff! Hell, I think it smells good too!! I've been running two cans in a 18 gallon tank full. I don't drive my car all that much, so a tank full will last me for a while. What would the octane be with one can and two cans in a tank full?
BTW: I mix it with Sunoco 94. (The good stuff.)
Thanks again big guy!
BTW: I mix it with Sunoco 94. (The good stuff.)
Thanks again big guy!
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I have been using Torco in my Camaro, and recently dyno'd with 94 SUnoco (1/2 tank, about 8 gallons) with one can of Torco...Used a 200 shot of nitrous (kind of fat on the fuel side) and pulled out 2 degrees of timing with no KR...did about 5 runs...no problems at all. I was going to try not pulling any timing, but why push it!
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JB-
That's excellent news. After seeing the Torco work for me on the Dyno, my car has ran with it ever since.....and always will. I wasn't sure exactly how much it raised the octane, and I really didn't care.....I just knew that it worked. Now you have just given me a better idea of what octane rating I'm running at with my 2 cans per tank.
Thanks for your efforts, and for introducing me to Torco.
-Jason-
That's excellent news. After seeing the Torco work for me on the Dyno, my car has ran with it ever since.....and always will. I wasn't sure exactly how much it raised the octane, and I really didn't care.....I just knew that it worked. Now you have just given me a better idea of what octane rating I'm running at with my 2 cans per tank.
Thanks for your efforts, and for introducing me to Torco.
-Jason-
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Well, you've earned my business!!! (not that I wasn't going to buy this product before). I placed my VERY FIRST order this morning me and a friend ('03 Cobra 593rwhp) can't wait to use this product.
Take care & thanks again for going the extra mile with testing out your product.
Take care & thanks again for going the extra mile with testing out your product.
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I've been running with Torco and like it. I am running it with Sunoco 94. They had to remove the headers when the new clutch was installed so I had them replace the plugs while they were at it. Like the exhaust stains the old spark plugs had a rust brown hue. The shop never saw that before and I figure it is from the Torco additive. Is that what everyone else is experiencing?
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I run Torco in my Pontiac GTP that makes over 13 pounds of boost. I swear by the stuff.....
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Believe it or not this can be done WAY cheaper!
I have been a chemist for over 10 years and have worked at a Mobil Oil refinery for 3 years. This refinery manufactured; gasoline, kerosene (jet fuel), diesel, and other distillates.
One of my job functions was to test the R+M/2 Octane Rating of our finished fuel products.
To test anything you need a reference.
I used to smuggle out quarts of reference fuel to put into my ’91 MR2 Turbo!
Toluene happens to have an R+M/2 rating = 114!!!
Average Octane ratings can be very easily calculated:
( Gallons_of_gas * Octane_of_gas ) + ( Gallons_of_toluene * 114 )
________________________________________ ___________
Total Gallons
This gives the octane of the mixture after you add toluene.
So, generally mixtures with 92 Octane Premium Gasoline.
10%...94.2 Octane
20%...96.4 Octane
30%...98.6 Octane
Note: Besides Saybolt, Caleb Brett is another independent national petroleum test lab.
I have been a chemist for over 10 years and have worked at a Mobil Oil refinery for 3 years. This refinery manufactured; gasoline, kerosene (jet fuel), diesel, and other distillates.
One of my job functions was to test the R+M/2 Octane Rating of our finished fuel products.
To test anything you need a reference.
I used to smuggle out quarts of reference fuel to put into my ’91 MR2 Turbo!
Toluene happens to have an R+M/2 rating = 114!!!
Average Octane ratings can be very easily calculated:
( Gallons_of_gas * Octane_of_gas ) + ( Gallons_of_toluene * 114 )
________________________________________ ___________
Total Gallons
This gives the octane of the mixture after you add toluene.
So, generally mixtures with 92 Octane Premium Gasoline.
10%...94.2 Octane
20%...96.4 Octane
30%...98.6 Octane
Note: Besides Saybolt, Caleb Brett is another independent national petroleum test lab.
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Yeap, but Toluene is a pain in the butt to 1)buy, and 2)mix.
Buy too much of it and the seller thinks you own a Meth lab.
The stuff is NASTY, and I would find it hard to buy the 2 or 4 gallons you would need for a tank of fuel for under the price of Torco.
FYI, I mixed Toluene all last summer, and it was way too much work hunting down local stock, funnelling it into the tank, etc. Give me a couple cans of Torco to throw in the hatch, and it is much easier.
F
Buy too much of it and the seller thinks you own a Meth lab.
The stuff is NASTY, and I would find it hard to buy the 2 or 4 gallons you would need for a tank of fuel for under the price of Torco.
FYI, I mixed Toluene all last summer, and it was way too much work hunting down local stock, funnelling it into the tank, etc. Give me a couple cans of Torco to throw in the hatch, and it is much easier.
F
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Originally Posted by Blue Lightening
I've been running with Torco and like it. I am running it with Sunoco 94. They had to remove the headers when the new clutch was installed so I had them replace the plugs while they were at it. Like the exhaust stains the old spark plugs had a rust brown hue. The shop never saw that before and I figure it is from the Torco additive. Is that what everyone else is experiencing?
Great step up to the plate there JB!!
VR
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Originally Posted by SziTech
Average Octane ratings can be very easily calculated:
( Gallons_of_gas * Octane_of_gas ) + ( Gallons_of_toluene * 114 )
________________________________________ ___________
Total Gallons
This gives the octane of the mixture after you add toluene.
So, generally mixtures with 92 Octane Premium Gasoline.
10%...94.2 Octane
20%...96.4 Octane
30%...98.6 Octane
Note: Besides Saybolt, Caleb Brett is another independent national petroleum test lab.
Are you out of your F-ing mind???? theres no way I can store that highly flamable material in bulk at home... I will stick with the easy to use 32 oz. cans and 5 gallon jug (that I bought on a group purchase thank you very much) that goes a long way... and not ever think about sticking something like paint thinner in my fuel tank.
VR
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