C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Air conditioning controls not working

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-02-2003, 03:07 AM
  #1  
calivette
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
calivette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2002
Location: Stanford CA
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Air conditioning controls not working

I just got done cutting out the cigarette lighter part of the console and moving the airconditioning controls down to where the cigarette lighter was. Obviously to do this I had to disconnect the wires to the air conditioning controls and then reconnect them after I had mounted the controls. The control that lets you switch between output at the head, output at the head/feet, defroster etc is not working. The temperature controls and the other controls work fine. Any ideas why this happened? Its summer and I need a functional air conditioner :(
Old 06-02-2003, 02:11 PM
  #2  
AC54ME
Team Owner
Support Corvetteforum!
 
AC54ME's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2003
Location: Plano Texas
Posts: 37,329
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 8 Posts
CI 6-7-8-9 Veteran
CI-VI Car Show Winner
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (calivette)

ttt - someone will have an answer
Old 06-02-2003, 02:56 PM
  #3  
calivette
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
calivette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2002
Location: Stanford CA
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (AC54ME)

thanks hopefully someone will
Old 06-02-2003, 03:35 PM
  #4  
CAPN17
Safety Car
 
CAPN17's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2001
Location: Aurora IL
Posts: 3,567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (calivette)

Recheck your wiring and make sure the right connectors are solidly snapped in in the right spot.
Old 06-02-2003, 07:31 PM
  #5  
msuc5vette
Burning Brakes
 
msuc5vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Troy MI
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (CAPN17)

I am having the exact same problem

Haven't felt like taking the dash panel off again, did you get yours fixed?
Old 06-02-2003, 07:37 PM
  #6  
mor thn u can afford
Heel & Toe
 
mor thn u can afford's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2003
Location: miami fl
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (calivette)

i can tell you why this happened, because you fuxored with a perfectly good car.


i'm glad you think you've earned your napa certification :rolleyes:

next time pay a professional, bob villa


[Modified by mor thn u can afford, 12:40 AM 6/3/2003]
Old 06-02-2003, 09:16 PM
  #7  
calivette
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
calivette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2002
Location: Stanford CA
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (mor thn u can afford)

i can tell you why this happened, because you fuxored with a perfectly good car.


i'm glad you think you've earned your napa certification :rolleyes:

next time pay a professional, bob villa

[Modified by mor thn u can afford, 12:40 AM 6/3/2003]

Well some people are just a**holes ... you ask for help and they give you wise crack comments like this.

msuc5vette --> nope haven't gotten it fixed yet and I too do not feel like taking the dash apart again. Please let me know if you ever get around to solving the problem I'll do likewise for you


[Modified by calivette, 8:18 PM 6/2/2003]
Old 06-03-2003, 01:06 AM
  #8  
Kent1999
Le Mans Master
 
Kent1999's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Location: Las Vegas NV
Posts: 6,483
Received 1,651 Likes on 825 Posts

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (calivette)

(The following assumes you have a manual AC system, and not the dual zone)

Your main vacuum feed for the HVAC (heat and AC controller) head is misconnected or has become disconnected. The head unit uses engine vacuum to change the mode of the HVAC unit from defrost to dash to floor vents.

It's been a while since I've been back there, but I *think* it's the purple vacuum line running to the back of the HVAC head unit -- check it. Make sure it has engine vacuum when the engine is running. That same line has a junction behind the glovebox -- make sure you didn't accidentaly pull it apart there when you were disassembling the unit.

Good luck,
Kent
Old 06-07-2003, 11:11 AM
  #9  
msuc5vette
Burning Brakes
 
msuc5vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Troy MI
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (mor thn u can afford)

i can tell you why this happened, because you fuxored with a perfectly good car.


i'm glad you think you've earned your napa certification :rolleyes:

next time pay a professional, bob villa


[Modified by mor thn u can afford, 12:40 AM 6/3/2003]
Wow, Class act! Don't see the point in being on the forum if you wrap your car in gauze instead of having fun improving it.
Old 06-07-2003, 11:13 AM
  #10  
msuc5vette
Burning Brakes
 
msuc5vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Troy MI
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (Kent1999)

Thanks for the reply Kent, I have the auto climate on mine, I had thought this might be the problem. Does the auto climate us a different method to open and close the baffles?

(The following assumes you have a manual AC system, and not the dual zone)

Your main vacuum feed for the HVAC (heat and AC controller) head is misconnected or has become disconnected. The head unit uses engine vacuum to change the mode of the HVAC unit from defrost to dash to floor vents.

It's been a while since I've been back there, but I *think* it's the purple vacuum line running to the back of the HVAC head unit -- check it. Make sure it has engine vacuum when the engine is running. That same line has a junction behind the glovebox -- make sure you didn't accidentaly pull it apart there when you were disassembling the unit.

Good luck,
Kent
Old 06-08-2003, 06:22 AM
  #11  
ScreaminDemon
Drifting
 
ScreaminDemon's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2001
Location: Memphis Tn
Posts: 1,421
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (calivette)

I posted this topic earlier but I had no AC/Heater at all. 'C5 Tech' chimed in and said a commom problem with the head unit is currosion on the plug wires.
Old 06-08-2003, 12:48 PM
  #12  
TrplBlk01
Safety Car
 
TrplBlk01's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2001
Location: Sacramento CA
Posts: 4,524
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (mor thn u can afford)

i can tell you why this happened, because you fuxored with a perfectly good car.


i'm glad you think you've earned your napa certification :rolleyes:

next time pay a professional, bob villa


[Modified by mor thn u can afford, 12:40 AM 6/3/2003]
I smell a :troll
Old 06-08-2003, 06:23 PM
  #13  
bowtiebandit
Drifting
 
bowtiebandit's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2003
Location: Columbia MD
Posts: 1,557
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (blk91)

Try this..
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Re-Calibrating Actuators After Power Loss
Circuit Description
The HVAC Control Assembly receives an actuator position signal from the RH and LH electric actuators. The electric actuator position sensor is a potentiometer that is tied to a 5 volt reference source through CKT 1791 and to ground through CKT 1798, both from the HVAC Control Assembly. The variable output from the potentiometer feeds back a position signal to a pull-up resistor located in the HVAC Control Assembly. This signal is used to determine the necessary drive signal to the electric actuator motor to provide the proper air mix door position. This value is stored in the Keep Alive Memory (KAM) portion of the HVAC Control Assembly.

. Reinitialization can be easily executed by removing the HVAC CON MiniFuse® #27 from the Instrument Panel Electrical Center and then reinstalling the fuse back into its proper position. When the HVAC Control Assembly is first connected to power, the system will perform an initialization routine lasting approximately 60 seconds. During this routine, both RH and LH electric actuators will cycle full travel in both directions learning the end positions. Position feedback readings are sent back to the HVAC Control Assembly and compared to a range of acceptable end readings. If during initialization the position feedback readings are not within the acceptable range, a diagnostic code will be set. If the position feedback readings reach values of 0-5 counts or 250-255 counts, the HVAC Control Assembly will then interpret the reading as a "feedback-short" or "feedback-open" condition respectively. NOTE: Feedback-short or feedback-open conditions can occur due to electric actuators being initialized while not being attached to the HVAC module case.

Old 06-08-2003, 07:04 PM
  #14  
Oldvetter
Le Mans Master
 
Oldvetter's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2002
Location: Waldorf MD
Posts: 6,937
Received 16 Likes on 13 Posts

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (calivette)

CHECK YOUR BATTERY FOR LEAKING!! The vacuum hoses as well as electrical connections run under the battery.

Don't take a chance, any regular lead-acid battery can leak. I had a DELCO leak in a new Pontiac Bonneville. In your C5 if it leaks, the computer and the wiring harness can be toast ! They are located directly under the battery.

I replaced my DELCO with a Champion XLT (AGM Battery) size/number DT35/CHXDT35 made by Exide. Got it at SAMS Club for $90-95. It has 690 CCA, 850 CA, a 36 month free replacement and free jump-start, and a 108 month limited warranty.
Old 06-08-2003, 11:16 PM
  #15  
msuc5vette
Burning Brakes
 
msuc5vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Troy MI
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (bowtiebandit)

Try this..
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Re-Calibrating Actuators After Power Loss
This sound pretty easy, just pull the fuse and let it figure itself out?

I will try it tomorrow, I have disconnected and reconnected my battery already, should that have fixed it, or does it have to be the fuse pull while the battery is connected?
Old 06-09-2003, 03:06 PM
  #16  
lost
Drifting
 
lost's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2002
Location: Spring Tx
Posts: 1,613
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (msuc5vette)

I have a similar problem, I get air from all my vents at all times when a/c is on. I tried the pull fuse trick and nothing happened. What else could be wrong.


[Modified by lost, 2:30 PM 6/9/2003]
Old 06-09-2003, 10:17 PM
  #17  
calivette
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
calivette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2002
Location: Stanford CA
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (msuc5vette)

msuc5vette --> so did you try pulling the fuse yet?

lost --> did you try kent's suggestion yet?

I'm going to try fixing mine this weekend will let you guys know what happens


[Modified by calivette, 9:19 PM 6/9/2003]
Old 06-09-2003, 10:22 PM
  #18  
Mick_S3
Advanced
 
Mick_S3's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2003
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (calivette)

Vacuum line is kinked, or not connected.
Old 06-10-2003, 11:06 PM
  #19  
msuc5vette
Burning Brakes
 
msuc5vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Troy MI
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Air conditioning controls not working (Mick_S3)

Vacuum line is kinked, or not connected.
Where do I look to find the missing or kinked connection? Have climate control

Tried pulling fuse 27, it did nothing.

Get notified of new replies

To Air conditioning controls not working




Quick Reply: Air conditioning controls not working



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:47 PM.