New TPMS but still not training?
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New TPMS but still not training?
Just had 4 new tpms installed for 2004 C5 and can't get DIC to acknowledge them. Portable unit at tire shop sees all 4, what is wrong and what do I need to do?
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I can't say what the solution is for this OP but I had a similar issue in February. I had four new sensors put into my 04 at Discount Tires Direct in Dayton, OH. The tech was unable to program the tires with either a tool or a magnet. He advised that I take the car to a dealer for service. The DIC showed XXXX for all four tires after leaving Discount Tire. I drove home and tried to program the sensors myself with a speaker magnet without any luck. I ordered a Schrader 20143 TPMS Magnet from Amazon as a last resort and it did the trick. All four tires programmed the first time through with the Schrader magnet. I have no idea why the tire store couldn't get them to program or why the Schrader magnet worked when it did. For less than $20.00 dollars, I'd get the Schrader magnet and give it a try.
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You MUST use the DIC to train our C5 TPMs
Find the BLANK program in the DIC and press reset. Select TPM Training
YOU MUST USE A MAGNET at each valve stem The sensor is on the INBOARD side of the valve stem
Your FIRST sensor program wheel will be the drivers front.
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Find the BLANK program in the DIC and press reset. Select TPM Training
YOU MUST USE A MAGNET at each valve stem The sensor is on the INBOARD side of the valve stem
Your FIRST sensor program wheel will be the drivers front.
BC
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I can't say what the solution is for this OP but I had a similar issue in February. I had four new sensors put into my 04 at Discount Tires Direct in Dayton, OH. The tech was unable to program the tires with either a tool or a magnet. He advised that I take the car to a dealer for service. The DIC showed XXXX for all four tires after leaving Discount Tire. I drove home and tried to program the sensors myself with a speaker magnet without any luck. I ordered a Schrader 20143 TPMS Magnet from Amazon as a last resort and it did the trick. All four tires programmed the first time through with the Schrader magnet. I have no idea why the tire store couldn't get them to program or why the Schrader magnet worked when it did. For less than $20.00 dollars, I'd get the Schrader magnet and give it a try.
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You MUST use the DIC to train our C5 TPMs
Find the BLANK program in the DIC and press reset. Select TPM Training
YOU MUST USE A MAGNET at each valve stem The sensor is on the INBOARD side of the valve stem
Your FIRST sensor program wheel will be the drivers front.
BC
Find the BLANK program in the DIC and press reset. Select TPM Training
YOU MUST USE A MAGNET at each valve stem The sensor is on the INBOARD side of the valve stem
Your FIRST sensor program wheel will be the drivers front.
BC
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I used a magnet to program my Titan sensors as well as a friend of mine's.If the magnet doesn't work on the stem try laying it over the sensor on the barrel of the wheel.It is always a good idea to see if they will program BEFORE they are mounted.
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One would think that these aftermarket vendors would make sure they work according to the specs. of the vehicle they make them for. And to follow their instructions they need to be mounted in order to increase or decrease air pressure.
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Good advise, however a little late in my case.
One would think that these aftermarket vendors would make sure they work according to the specs. of the vehicle they make them for. And to follow their instructions they need to be mounted in order to increase or decrease air pressure.
One would think that these aftermarket vendors would make sure they work according to the specs. of the vehicle they make them for. And to follow their instructions they need to be mounted in order to increase or decrease air pressure.
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Ran a magnet all over the tires???? All 4 ??? Don't go to the next tire until the horn has beeped for the first. Helps if you have a strong magnet. You hold it at the valve stem, not all over the tire. First time I did it with a 3/8" x 1/2" neodymium magnet. It finally worked, but I almost gave up. Second time I did it with a bigger magnet -- woofer magnet out of door panel speaker. Much better. Seems to like you just holding the magnet steady beside the valve stem rather than waving it.
First time was a pain, so second time I told the tire shop to do it. They tried and tried using their universal programmer and could not program it. I was ready to buy the new fob/receiver system and figured "what the heck, I will try it the old fashioned way, on the DIC". Worked like a charm.
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Ran a magnet all over the tires???? All 4 ??? Don't go to the next tire until the horn has beeped for the first. Helps if you have a strong magnet. You hold it at the valve stem, not all over the tire. First time I did it with a 3/8" x 1/2" neodymium magnet. It finally worked, but I almost gave up. Second time I did it with a bigger magnet -- woofer magnet out of door panel speaker. Much better. Seems to like you just holding the magnet steady beside the valve stem rather than waving it.
First time was a pain, so second time I told the tire shop to do it. They tried and tried using their universal programmer and could not program it. I was ready to buy the new fob/receiver system and figured "what the heck, I will try it the old fashioned way, on the DIC". Worked like a charm.
First time was a pain, so second time I told the tire shop to do it. They tried and tried using their universal programmer and could not program it. I was ready to buy the new fob/receiver system and figured "what the heck, I will try it the old fashioned way, on the DIC". Worked like a charm.
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Did you follow the steps in the Video above (post #6) to bring up the TPMS training function in the DIC???? As has been said above you MUST start there. That part does NOT require a magnet. Once the training function is started and the horn honks to indicate the first TPMS is trained, the message in the DIC will change to tell you which TPMS to train next. The horn will honk after each TPMS is trained. The actual tire pressures will not change until the car has been driven with the trained TPMS.
If your trying to tell us that you cannot get the TPMS training to display in the DIC then possibly a previous owner had the TPMS RPO programmed out of the BCM. That is possible for 2001 and newer C5's. requires a TECH II device to remove or add the RPO to the BCM. It could also be a bad BCM. Has the BCM ever gotten wet?
If your trying to tell us that you cannot get the TPMS training to display in the DIC then possibly a previous owner had the TPMS RPO programmed out of the BCM. That is possible for 2001 and newer C5's. requires a TECH II device to remove or add the RPO to the BCM. It could also be a bad BCM. Has the BCM ever gotten wet?
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If you get to the "learn LF" then the TPMS RPO is still programmed into the BCM. Not getting the horn to honk is most likely a TPMS issue and NOT a BCM issue. Is there a date code on the TPMS? The OEM ones have a circle with an arrow pointing to a number between 1 and 12 to indicate the month and a two digit year (one digit on either side of the arrow). Perhaps you have old TPMS and the batteries are bad???
You might try a stronger magnet. Are the TPMS that you cannot train Titan by chance??? Many have had issues trying to get that particular brand to train in a C5. If they are Titan then I suggest that you contact the company with your issue. You would not be the first......
As far as checking the BCM, it is located in the passenger foot well to the left of the IP fuse box behind the toe kick at the end of the foot well. The board is inside a large aluminum container. Look at the aluminum container for white oxidation stains that would indicate that water had gotten in that area and possibly had contaminated the board inside the container. Container is NOT water tight.
If you have water stains on the container then I would start by reading the following thread:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...ak-checks.html
You might try a stronger magnet. Are the TPMS that you cannot train Titan by chance??? Many have had issues trying to get that particular brand to train in a C5. If they are Titan then I suggest that you contact the company with your issue. You would not be the first......
As far as checking the BCM, it is located in the passenger foot well to the left of the IP fuse box behind the toe kick at the end of the foot well. The board is inside a large aluminum container. Look at the aluminum container for white oxidation stains that would indicate that water had gotten in that area and possibly had contaminated the board inside the container. Container is NOT water tight.
If you have water stains on the container then I would start by reading the following thread:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...ak-checks.html
Last edited by cdnwillyg; 08-19-2014 at 09:36 AM. Reason: new info
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That is simply BS. Once you program the new ones the computer will not see the old ones even if they were installed in the wheels. And when you are programming the TPMS you need the magnet to wake up the TPMS so it will transmit to the computer so its ID gets learned and the horn gets honked to let you know that sensor is trained.. Pure BS from who ever told you that...........
Good luck with the new sensors....
Good luck with the new sensors....
So if I am getting to the learned portion on the DIC, does that mean all is well on the car? I have no fault codes up but have xxxx for each tire sensor. This is the third set of Titans....hard to believe they all are no good!
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You are NOT going to train your TPS using a PORTABLE PROGRMMER.
You MUST go to the blank page in the DIC, find the TPS Training routine and use the magnet on each sensor/wheel position as the training program tells you to.
They do not need to be in the wheels but you need to mark them for location they are trained to so you can put them in the correct locations.
You MUST go to the blank page in the DIC, find the TPS Training routine and use the magnet on each sensor/wheel position as the training program tells you to.
They do not need to be in the wheels but you need to mark them for location they are trained to so you can put them in the correct locations.