Can't power brake - car sputters
#1
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Can't power brake - car sputters
1st, long time since I've posted, so hello to all former friends / sources of info!! Still have the car, just don't hang out here much anymore.
2nd - not sure if this is a tech or scan / tune question, so here goes:
As my signature says, I've pretty much done everything short of nitros / forced induction to my car . . . LG3 cam, AFR heads, etc - also have auto tranny w/ 3.73 gears and a Yank SS3200 stall converter - Car's been dynoed by DRM at 400 rwhp -
qualifying statement - I've got some exhaust air flow sensor codes that go off, so I know I have some exhaust sensors that need replacing - not sure if that is the cause of my problem or not - also, the traction control donut at the base of the steering wheel apparently needs replacing also as that code is showing . . .
anyway, the problem that occurs - w/ the 3200 stall, I should be able to "power brake" and hold the car while reving the car to 3200 RPMs, then let off the brake at 3200 rpms and launch the car - but, if I step on the brake and apply gas, it will rev to 1800 - 2000 rpm, then it sputters (d/n really pop), but stutters and rpms drop off till I let off the gas - I can NOT hold brake and get rpms past 1800 - 2000 rpms
BUT, if I'm just driving along, say 3 - 5 mph and stomp on the gas, the car reacts as it should (wheels break LOOSE!!) - the problem doesn't seem to happen unless I power brake it the way you would if you were running at the track - normal driving and stomp on it and no sputtering, no hesitation, etc
hope this makes sense
any ideas? and THANKS in advance!!
2nd - not sure if this is a tech or scan / tune question, so here goes:
As my signature says, I've pretty much done everything short of nitros / forced induction to my car . . . LG3 cam, AFR heads, etc - also have auto tranny w/ 3.73 gears and a Yank SS3200 stall converter - Car's been dynoed by DRM at 400 rwhp -
qualifying statement - I've got some exhaust air flow sensor codes that go off, so I know I have some exhaust sensors that need replacing - not sure if that is the cause of my problem or not - also, the traction control donut at the base of the steering wheel apparently needs replacing also as that code is showing . . .
anyway, the problem that occurs - w/ the 3200 stall, I should be able to "power brake" and hold the car while reving the car to 3200 RPMs, then let off the brake at 3200 rpms and launch the car - but, if I step on the brake and apply gas, it will rev to 1800 - 2000 rpm, then it sputters (d/n really pop), but stutters and rpms drop off till I let off the gas - I can NOT hold brake and get rpms past 1800 - 2000 rpms
BUT, if I'm just driving along, say 3 - 5 mph and stomp on the gas, the car reacts as it should (wheels break LOOSE!!) - the problem doesn't seem to happen unless I power brake it the way you would if you were running at the track - normal driving and stomp on it and no sputtering, no hesitation, etc
hope this makes sense
any ideas? and THANKS in advance!!
#2
Racer
Well when I had the LS1 with a 3200 stall mine would do the same thing and with my 408 with a 4000 stall it does the same. Not like carb cars and foot braking.
Just found this http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-s...-disabled.html
Just found this http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-s...-disabled.html
Last edited by 04tripleblkcoupe; 07-28-2014 at 06:02 PM.
#3
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Well when I had the LS1 with a 3200 stall mine would do the same thing and with my 408 with a 4000 stall it does the same. Not like carb cars and foot braking.
Just found this http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-s...-disabled.html
Just found this http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-s...-disabled.html
#4
Burning Brakes
Sounds like "Torque Management" in the ECU is activating.. is the car tuned and has the torque management been adjusted? the OEM tune has basically a safety built into it so you can abuse the transmission as much. Also do you have your Stability control/Traction control disabled?
Im not a fan of power braking because it is so hard on the transmissions anyhow... lol not to say i havnt done a few in my day.. My Turbo Z34 had a 3200RPM stall an when the turbo would spool it would force the stall up to about 4500-4800RPMS... Ohhh Mamma she would get after it from a dig! only did that 1 or 2 times, didnt want to tear it up.
I would also post the codes reported causing the CEL.
S
Im not a fan of power braking because it is so hard on the transmissions anyhow... lol not to say i havnt done a few in my day.. My Turbo Z34 had a 3200RPM stall an when the turbo would spool it would force the stall up to about 4500-4800RPMS... Ohhh Mamma she would get after it from a dig! only did that 1 or 2 times, didnt want to tear it up.
I would also post the codes reported causing the CEL.
S
Last edited by RedZMonte; 07-28-2014 at 07:11 PM.
#5
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Sounds like "Torque Management" in the ECU is activating.. is the car tuned and has the torque management been adjusted? the OEM tune has basically a safety built into it so you can abuse the transmission as much. Also do you have your Stability control/Traction control disabled?
Im not a fan of power braking because it is so hard on the transmissions anyhow... lol not to say i havnt done a few in my day.. My Turbo Z34 had a 3200RPM stall an when the turbo would spool it would force the stall up to about 4500-4800RPMS... Ohhh Mamma she would get after it from a dig! only did that 1 or 2 times, didnt want to tear it up.
I would also post the codes reported causing the CEL.
S
Im not a fan of power braking because it is so hard on the transmissions anyhow... lol not to say i havnt done a few in my day.. My Turbo Z34 had a 3200RPM stall an when the turbo would spool it would force the stall up to about 4500-4800RPMS... Ohhh Mamma she would get after it from a dig! only did that 1 or 2 times, didnt want to tear it up.
I would also post the codes reported causing the CEL.
S
I'm guessing it is the Stability Control / Traction Control you mention - again, I'm getting the code which essentially means the donut sensor at the base of the steering wheel needs replacing . . . that code is resulting in my traction control button on the armrest counsel NOT working (light is always on, and the "sqiggly tires" / orange caution light on the speedo is ON) -
PERHAPS?? if I replace the donut the problem would go away . . .
MIGHT be a winter project, but I've been waiting to replace the donut because I need to pull the dash to replace the A/C actuator and when I do all that I'm going to install a 300 MPH speedo . . . but before I install the 300 MPH speedo, I need to have all the guages reading in US, not metric if that makes sense