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Old 11-30-2013, 08:14 PM
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Anyone done this before? I did some searching and only found one thread about it. Looked like the clutch disk had some overhang on the inner of the flywheel. I have no problem buying a billet steel flywheel but i dont wanna waste the money if i can just get the stock one resurfaced. thanks!
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We have always used their flywheel with the RXT. Are you sure the gold anodized ring bolts up to the stock flywheel.
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I'm not sure. The main thing I'm worried about is getting the clutch/flywheel assembly to balance like the factory unit.
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Local guy bought and RST and just had his Stock Flywheel resurfaced, no issues what so ever. I had an RXT installed, same shop within a couple weeks, was told I could use the stock Flywheel as well. In the end I went with a new flywheel and had the unit balanced before shipping to the shop as a unit.

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I used the RXT With a billet flywheel. I had a local shop balance the whole setup. I was only 8 grams out, I know it is right now. From my understanding people swap it to a new flywheel that is SFI approved.
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the factory flywheel/clutch from what i understand is balanced with the engine from the factory with the weights that go in the 12 holes near the ring gear on the flywheel. Ive heard of vibration issues from 0 balanced units and am trying to figure out how to address it the best. Like i said i dont mind buying a new flywheel but i just want it to be balanced like the factory unit when im done.
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My response is based on having an RST installed , and my skill set is low.

my 03 was externally balanced, I was expecting a zero balance situation from research trying to understand the work. I called McLoed a couple of times and was told the friction contact would have an overlap on the stock flywheel but that it would be fine. I went with a McLoed flywheel.

I have no idea how to balance the stuff, and still don't. Two disks would seem to complicate stuff. I had some venders say no balance work was needed because the parts come with good tolerances.

I decided to have mine balanced at the shop McLoed uses, at their suggestion, since the "factory balance" wait for the work was well booked. I would assume the no balance needed guys were talking about a zero balance set up, since that advice wouldn't work for me. Or at least at my level of understanding. For all I know, the balance work could have just entailed moving the weights from the old to new parts.

I would not hesitate to call McLoed for any concerns. They were easy to get on the phone, and very helpful, even knowing I was not a customer, just a guy trying to figure things out.

Still trying to find out how to balance a two disk clutch.
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Originally Posted by rcrflyby
I'm not sure. The main thing I'm worried about is getting the clutch/flywheel assembly to balance like the factory unit.
spend $60 at the machine shop?
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^ was quoted $250+
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Originally Posted by strand rider
My response is based on having an RST installed , and my skill set is low.

my 03 was externally balanced, I was expecting a zero balance situation from research trying to understand the work. I called McLoed a couple of times and was told the friction contact would have an overlap on the stock flywheel but that it would be fine. I went with a McLoed flywheel.

I have no idea how to balance the stuff, and still don't. Two disks would seem to complicate stuff. I had some venders say no balance work was needed because the parts come with good tolerances.

I decided to have mine balanced at the shop McLoed uses, at their suggestion, since the "factory balance" wait for the work was well booked. I would assume the no balance needed guys were talking about a zero balance set up, since that advice wouldn't work for me. Or at least at my level of understanding. For all I know, the balance work could have just entailed moving the weights from the old to new parts.

I would not hesitate to call McLoed for any concerns. They were easy to get on the phone, and very helpful, even knowing I was not a customer, just a guy trying to figure things out.

Still trying to find out how to balance a two disk clutch.
Its not so much balancing the clutch, its balancing the clutch and flywheel assembly. What i was going to do is take the factory flywheel and factory clutch bolted together, and the mcleod clutch/flywheel bolted together and get them balanced identical. Id get them to tell me (or i could probably see it) where the weight is that they added to match the stock assembly and line it up on the engine like the factory setup. Also i could probably mark how the factory flywheel is when it comes off the engine and take it and the aftermarked flywheel to the machine shop to match them up. Since the weights are on the outside of the flywheel, its gonna make the most difference in the balance of the engine compared to the clutch.
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Originally Posted by rcrflyby
^ was quoted $250+
that's not even in the ballpark of reasonable costs. the best engine shop in the portland vancouver area is sommers race engines and machine. they charge $100

hutchins machine was $60-80

you need to call around, it's not at all a hard thing to do, similar to balancing a tire only you drill out a gram or so at a time until it's at zero. all they need is the pressure plate and flywheel
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I'm not zero balancing. Its adding weight to match the stock unit.
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I would never recommend running an aggressive friction material ie ceramic or sintered iron with a cast flywheel as it can explode if gotten hot enough...
That is why we only sell Monster's with a billet steel flywheel, not worth loosing a leg over
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Originally Posted by rcrflyby
I'm not zero balancing. Its adding weight to match the stock unit.
it's the same process. you measure the old setup, see how many grams out it is, mark the location and balance the new one the same way. you just have to be 100% sure to mark where you bolt the pressure plate and flywheel to make sure your out of balance is in the exact same spot
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
I would never recommend running an aggressive friction material ie ceramic or sintered iron with a cast flywheel as it can explode if gotten hot enough...
That is why we only sell Monster's with a billet steel flywheel, not worth loosing a leg over
Agree 100%
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Thanks for the quick balance explanation. I was picturing a rotating rig.
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I was running a RST with stock flywheel. The clutch and flywheel were not balance together, but the flywheel was resurfaced. It chattered from day one and I think it killed my pilot bearing due to the two not being balanced together.

This time I went with a RXT, Billet Aluminum Flywheel, and I had them balance the two together in house.

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