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Old 10-22-2013, 05:24 PM
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As far as splicing goes, was going to use 3M T-Taps. Seems easiest. Not a big fan of solder on automotive use....vibration...since it's brittle & can break.
Anyone know what guage wire on the DRL sockets?
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Originally Posted by LIGHTNING
As far as splicing goes, was going to use 3M T-Taps. Seems easiest. Not a big fan of solder on automotive use....vibration...since it's brittle & can break.
Anyone know what guage wire on the DRL sockets?
What are you trying to fix? If the sockets are brittle and you want new, then do NOT splice. Splicing is just asking for trouble not to mention ugly and wrong way to fix. Depopulate the socket and simply install a new one. You need a really small drill bit to shove into the socket and release the pin latch to depopulate. Fairly easy. 5 mins per socket.
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What are you trying to fix? If the sockets are brittle and you want new, then do NOT splice. Splicing is just asking for trouble not to mention ugly and wrong way to fix. Depopulate the socket and simply install a new one. You need a really small drill bit to shove into the socket and release the pin latch to depopulate. Fairly easy. 5 mins per socket.
"Depopulate the socket"?? Never heard of that!
I installed new housings, & want to replace OEM bulbs with Switchback LED's, since the sockets were kinda burnt. So I got new sockets & am about to splice them in place. Plan on using Dorman 85462 Blue 14-18 Gauge Weatherproof Wire Splice block.

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"Depopulate the socket"?? Never heard of that!
I installed new housings, & want to replace OEM bulbs with Switchback LED's, since the sockets were kinda burnt. So I got new sockets & am about to splice them in place. Plan on using Dorman 85462 Blue 14-18 Gauge Weatherproof Wire Splice block.
You depopulate a socket to keep the wires with the original pins and not have to splice. First, remove wires and pins from new socket. Discard those wires. Remove from old socket. Install new socket on factory wires. Good as new an no splices. As stated, you need a really small drill bit to unlatch the wires from the socket.
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Originally Posted by ace147
You depopulate a socket to keep the wires with the original pins and not have to splice. First, remove wires and pins from new socket. Discard those wires. Remove from old socket. Install new socket on factory wires. Good as new an no splices. As stated, you need a really small drill bit to unlatch the wires from the socket.
I'll give it a try...thanks for the info!
Weird, all the yrs I've been on various car forums, this is the first I've ever heard of this. Whenever it comes to replacing DRL sockets, It's always a debate on best splicing method.
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I'll give it a try...thanks for the info!
Weird, all the yrs I've been on various car forums, this is the first I've ever heard of this. Whenever it comes to replacing DRL sockets, It's always a debate on best splicing method.
I cut, stripped, tinned, soldered, then shrink tubed them. Been well over a year with no worries. I think the wires are in the 18 to 16 ga range.
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I cut, stripped, tinned, soldered, then shrink tubed them. Been well over a year with no worries. I think the wires are in the 18 to 16 ga range.
While your experience sounds terrific, its the wrong way to repair a damaged socket. You're adding another possible failure point to the system. The ONLY time you splice in a new socket is when the terminals are corroded.
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Originally Posted by ace147
You depopulate a socket to keep the wires with the original pins and not have to splice. First, remove wires and pins from new socket. Discard those wires. Remove from old socket. Install new socket on factory wires. Good as new an no splices. As stated, you need a really small drill bit to unlatch the wires from the socket.
So I'm sitting there with a flashlight & magnifying glass trying to figure out how to "depopulate" my light socket. You're a better man than me....I can't see how to do it. So I just did ithe GM recommended method....weather resistant heat shrink butt splice connector. Been doing it that way on other cars for years without any issues. Hopefully this won't be the first!

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While your experience sounds terrific, its the wrong way to repair a damaged socket. You're adding another possible failure point to the system. The ONLY time you splice in a new socket is when the terminals are corroded.
Getting into my car and driving it down the street is greatly increasing the possibility of a failure too.

I'll add more wire loom to cover the ugly splice so no one will see it. Thanks for the tip, it was terrific.
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Originally Posted by LIGHTNING
....... Been doing it that way on other cars for years without any issues.
Same for me and lots of others. A carefully/properly soldered splice will last for years with little, if any, embrittlement issues, especially in a wire ga. that size in a low vibration environment. This definitely aint the space-shuttle, where lives are on the line.

Unfortunately however, the new socket will likely suffer the same fate due to the very hot DRL incandescent bulb filament constantly putting out so much heat in that confined space. I would recommend considering LED lighting, or doing the DRL relay mod to eliminate the DRL function (and generates no DTC codes). No hot bulb filament constantly burning = no heat to cook the sockets.
I did the relay mod (free) on mine as opposed to the LED mod. Not hard and I don't mind not having DRLs. Turn signals and parking lights function normally.

HTH

Btw, fix the crack/hole in the light housing too. That's where the water comes in and constantly blows bulbs and causes corrosion.
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Getting into my car and driving it down the street is greatly increasing the possibility of a failure too.

I'll add more wire loom to cover the ugly splice so no one will see it. Thanks for the tip, it was terrific.
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
I cut, stripped, tinned, soldered, then shrink tubed them. Been well over a year with no worries. I think the wires are in the 18 to 16 ga range.
When at all possible, this is the process i have used for ages and never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
Same for me and lots of others. A carefully/properly soldered splice will last for years with little, if any, embrittlement issues, especially in a wire ga. that size in a low vibration environment. This definitely aint the space-shuttle, where lives are on the line.

Unfortunately however, the new socket will likely suffer the same fate due to the very hot DRL incandescent bulb filament constantly putting out so much heat in that confined space. I would recommend considering LED lighting, or doing the DRL relay mod to eliminate the DRL function (and generates no DTC codes). No hot bulb filament constantly burning = no heat to cook the sockets.
I did the relay mod (free) on mine as opposed to the LED mod. Not hard and I don't mind not having DRLs. Turn signals and parking lights function normally.

HTH

Btw, fix the crack/hole in the light housing too. That's where the water comes in and constantly blows bulbs and causes corrosion.
That's actually why I'm replacing the DRL sockets... replacing OEM housing & bulbs with clear housing & Switchbacks LED's. Sockets were a bit burnt. Lens housing was fine, no cracks or holes.
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Originally Posted by LIGHTNING
That's actually why I'm replacing the DRL sockets... replacing OEM housing & bulbs with clear housing & Switchbacks LED's. Sockets were a bit burnt. Lens housing was fine, no cracks or holes.
If no melted/cracked housing, you're won of the lucky few, but I'll wager if you weren't replacing your housings, and given enough time, they too would join the long line of failed housings.

LEDs do have their advantages; very little heat, very long lives, and very low current draw are just a few.

You're going to be adding a flasher bypass harness as well?

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