which are better t1 sway bars or zr1?
02-23-2013, 11:30 PM
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which are better t1 sway bars or zr1?
I was thinking about upgrading my sway bars on my frc. Which is a better setup T1 bars or the new zr1 bars? I am just using the car on the street and will not be doing any track days. 
02-24-2013, 04:07 PM
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Both are way to stiff for a street car. It will skip in corners if pavement is alike ruff. I recommend and have 2013 z51 bars and shocks huge diffrance over stock and over your sways. Plus way cheaper . Zr1 bars need those wide tires to hold the bars on the road.
02-25-2013, 09:19 AM
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Suspension is designed to work as a package; shocks, sways, springs and tires.
Not pick one.
making a minor change maybe ok the C6Z51 sway bars or JOC would be OK. But also check your shocks. They might need replacing too.
I run a full T1 suppression and ROCKS would be softer for street driving.
But on the road course, high speed smooth corners are great.
Not pick one.
making a minor change maybe ok the C6Z51 sway bars or JOC would be OK. But also check your shocks. They might need replacing too.
I run a full T1 suppression and ROCKS would be softer for street driving.
But on the road course, high speed smooth corners are great.
02-25-2013, 07:37 PM
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I am running 19/19 with coilovers and a big brake kit 
. I am looking for the best sway bars to compliment what i have and am looking for pro's and con's. Sorry i guess i should have put out all the facts in my orginal post.
. I am looking for the best sway bars to compliment what i have and am looking for pro's and con's. Sorry i guess i should have put out all the facts in my orginal post.
02-26-2013, 08:57 AM
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Sway bars have to be matched to tires and springs. There is no right or wrong specific ones, so long as the entire packge produces the right balance and stiffness.
You haven't said if this is a dedicated track car, an occasional track use car or a daily driver. And you didn't say what spring rates you are running, or what tire widths you have, and what tires you are using. As a result there really isn't anything that can be said to help you other than to point you to the Pfadt site where they have a graph of most all of the sway bars for these cars and you can see the relative stiffnesses.
Coil overs tend to be stiffer than stock springs, and that's fine, but coupling up stiffer springs with monster bars can result in something that will have you reaching for your kidney belt if you live in a place where the roads are anything but billiard table smooth.
A bit more information on the use and the setup that you are starting with and I'm sure that there are people who have tried that combination and can help you out.
As a last point, when you are basically changing everything, springs, shocks and bars, it often helps to have some adjustability in the bars to get the proper balance. That's particularly true when you don't have a package of springs and bars that has been tested and demonstrated to deliver a decent balance. Otherwise just slapping different bars on the car can result in serious understeer or oversteer and really mess up the handling.
You haven't said if this is a dedicated track car, an occasional track use car or a daily driver. And you didn't say what spring rates you are running, or what tire widths you have, and what tires you are using. As a result there really isn't anything that can be said to help you other than to point you to the Pfadt site where they have a graph of most all of the sway bars for these cars and you can see the relative stiffnesses.
Coil overs tend to be stiffer than stock springs, and that's fine, but coupling up stiffer springs with monster bars can result in something that will have you reaching for your kidney belt if you live in a place where the roads are anything but billiard table smooth.
A bit more information on the use and the setup that you are starting with and I'm sure that there are people who have tried that combination and can help you out.
As a last point, when you are basically changing everything, springs, shocks and bars, it often helps to have some adjustability in the bars to get the proper balance. That's particularly true when you don't have a package of springs and bars that has been tested and demonstrated to deliver a decent balance. Otherwise just slapping different bars on the car can result in serious understeer or oversteer and really mess up the handling.
04-21-2014, 03:37 AM
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Sway bars have to be matched to tires and springs. There is no right or wrong specific ones, so long as the entire packge produces the right balance and stiffness.
You haven't said if this is a dedicated track car, an occasional track use car or a daily driver. And you didn't say what spring rates you are running, or what tire widths you have, and what tires you are using. As a result there really isn't anything that can be said to help you other than to point you to the Pfadt site where they have a graph of most all of the sway bars for these cars and you can see the relative stiffnesses.
Coil overs tend to be stiffer than stock springs, and that's fine, but coupling up stiffer springs with monster bars can result in something that will have you reaching for your kidney belt if you live in a place where the roads are anything but billiard table smooth.
A bit more information on the use and the setup that you are starting with and I'm sure that there are people who have tried that combination and can help you out.
As a last point, when you are basically changing everything, springs, shocks and bars, it often helps to have some adjustability in the bars to get the proper balance. That's particularly true when you don't have a package of springs and bars that has been tested and demonstrated to deliver a decent balance. Otherwise just slapping different bars on the car can result in serious understeer or oversteer and really mess up the handling.
You haven't said if this is a dedicated track car, an occasional track use car or a daily driver. And you didn't say what spring rates you are running, or what tire widths you have, and what tires you are using. As a result there really isn't anything that can be said to help you other than to point you to the Pfadt site where they have a graph of most all of the sway bars for these cars and you can see the relative stiffnesses.
Coil overs tend to be stiffer than stock springs, and that's fine, but coupling up stiffer springs with monster bars can result in something that will have you reaching for your kidney belt if you live in a place where the roads are anything but billiard table smooth.
A bit more information on the use and the setup that you are starting with and I'm sure that there are people who have tried that combination and can help you out.
As a last point, when you are basically changing everything, springs, shocks and bars, it often helps to have some adjustability in the bars to get the proper balance. That's particularly true when you don't have a package of springs and bars that has been tested and demonstrated to deliver a decent balance. Otherwise just slapping different bars on the car can result in serious understeer or oversteer and really mess up the handling.
Well said! 
04-21-2014, 05:48 PM
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agree with the previous
it's an entire package
with as many wrecked z06's as we see come up, i would buy an entire take off set of springs, bars and shocks off of one. that's a great street suspension
if you start making changes, you need to know why you're making the change. what is it you're after? it's not hard to throw a car out of balance if you just start randomly changing parts
it's an entire package
with as many wrecked z06's as we see come up, i would buy an entire take off set of springs, bars and shocks off of one. that's a great street suspension
if you start making changes, you need to know why you're making the change. what is it you're after? it's not hard to throw a car out of balance if you just start randomly changing parts