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Old 06-08-2012, 03:35 PM
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I know it is not a new or brilliant idea but I just wanted some new opinions on which do you think will let in more air...the top pic of a stock Z06 lid or my modified stock air box lid?...(I call it the Swiss cheese mod)
I already know it will not make much of a difference in performance but I just want opinions...if you have seen a post similar to this one and are tired of the dumb question I have posed then please just ignore it and go away


BTW...if it even matters...the Z06 lid has about 7 square inches of opening...my Swiss cheese mod air lid has about 32 square inches of opening...

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Why have a front cover at all? Just Velcro and zip tie the filter in.
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
Why have a front cover at all? Just Velcro and zip tie the filter in.
I already know that ...I didn't want it to look super redneck with no lid at all...I wanted it to look just a little redneck with the holes...but see if you can just answer my question...thanks
There... I highlighted my question in red so you could focus on my original question

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Originally Posted by Yello95
I already know that ...I didn't want it to look super redneck with no lid at all...I wanted it to look just a little redneck with the holes...but see if you can just answer my question...thanks
The cheesy one...errr...I mean cheese one would let in more air.
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Originally Posted by Corvette_Ed
The cheesy one...errr...I mean cheese one would let in more air.
...now I'm waiting to hear some poor soul ask If I was cuttin the cheese...anyway...
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Originally Posted by Yello95
I highlighted my question in red so you could focus on my original question.
Hmmmm.....you answered your own question, when you calculated the surface area removed between the two covers.....what am I missing?
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Hmmmm.....you answered your own question, when you calculated the surface area removed between the two covers.....what am I missing?
You aren't missing anything...I'm missing a brain...no...I'm looking for opinions of others also...
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Originally Posted by hotwheels57
So you didn't care for the procedure which I outlined in PM?
:bb...actually I was thrilled when you sent me pics of your engineering but I had to face reality ...I'm not that talented as to do what you did and I thought about it more and more and just started drilling holes and noticed that the holes seemed to open up more open space and still keep the original shell...you need a patent(sp?) on what you did
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I just replaced my stock lid with the Z06 lid. I was going to cut my stock lid but I read somewhere that getting the filter wet could be a problem. Even the Z06 lid design would seem to let water from the hood area bypass the opening. Something to consider.
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Originally Posted by Yello95
:bb...actually I was thrilled when you sent me pics of your engineering but I had to face reality ...I'm not that talented as to do what you did and I thought about it more and more and just started drilling holes and noticed that the holes seemed to open up more open space and still keep the original shell...you need a patent(sp?) on what you did
The cheese one for sure, but Im curious as to the other idea as well
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Originally Posted by Yello95
You aren't missing anything...I'm missing a brain...no...I'm looking for opinions of others also...
Math and Physics trumps opinions any day of the week.
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Originally Posted by Binski
I just replaced my stock lid with the Z06 lid. I was going to cut my stock lid but I read somewhere that getting the filter wet could be a problem. Even the Z06 lid design would seem to let water from the hood area bypass the opening. Something to consider.
You might want to also think about getting a front hood seal...
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Originally Posted by m6 c5
The cheese one for sure, but Im curious as to the other idea as well

Here...thanks to hotwheels57...look at his little engineering marvel...I didn't think I could do this very well so I just did my little
Swiss cheese thing...credit goes to hotwheels57 here though...Look>>>

Thats what I'm talkin about...I think I have more air flow but this one is pretty
I'm thinking that the screen itself cuts about 45% of the air flow from the cut out area???

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Originally Posted by Yello95
Here...thanks to hotwheels57...look at his little engineering marvel...I didn't think I could do this very well so I just did my little
Swiss cheese thing...credit goes to hotwheels57 here though...Look>>>

Thats what I'm talkin about...I think I have more air flow but this one is pretty
I'm thinking that the screen itself cuts about 45% of the air flow from the cut out area???
Ah, yea thats the one I want to try and make
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
WHY hack your car, you think this kind of stuff actually does ANYTHING???
If you can't contribute to a thread in a positive way then don't post>>>forum rules
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
WHY hack your car, you think this kind of stuff actually does ANYTHING???
Originally Posted by Yello95
If you can't contribute to a thread in a positive way then don't post>>>forum rules

There's a point here, which I think you're missing.....


The GM engineers spent a lot of time developing an air intake system that will filter the air, repel a normal amount of water, and still allow an LS1 engine to develop 345-350 horsepower. This, for the most part, allows a fairly light car like a Corvette to accelerate pretty damned fast. The additional 5-6 HP that might be generated at wide open throttle by a modified air intake, most likely would not be noticed by the "seat of the pants" dyno. Furthermore, unless on a race track, how often are you at WOT?

I believe that possibly "Doug" was alluding to this......
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
There's a point here, which I think you're missing.....
The GM engineers spent a lot of time developing an air intake system that will filter the air, repel a normal amount of water, and still allow an LS1 engine to develop 345-350 horsepower. This, for the most part, allows a fairly light car like a Corvette to accelerate pretty damned fast. The additional 5-6 HP that might be generated at wide open throttle by a modified air intake, most likely would not be noticed by the "seat of the pants" dyno. Furthermore, unless on a race track, how often are you at WOT?

I believe that possibly "Doug" was alluding to this......
I am listening to what you and everyone is saying...Thanks for your response...but I am not missing anything or anyones point...all I asked for was opinions not lectures on what I do or don't understand...and opinions are like azzes...everyone has one...just saying
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Originally Posted by Yello95
...and opinions are like azzes...everyone has one...just saying
......so what's the point?
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
There's a point here, which I think you're missing.....


The GM engineers spent a lot of time developing an air intake system that will filter the air, repel a normal amount of water, and still allow an LS1 engine to develop 345-350 horsepower. This, for the most part, allows a fairly light car like a Corvette to accelerate pretty damned fast. The additional 5-6 HP that might be generated at wide open throttle by a modified air intake, most likely would not be noticed by the "seat of the pants" dyno. Furthermore, unless on a race track, how often are you at WOT?

I believe that possibly "Doug" was alluding to this......

You forgot to add "Noise"...a prime design feature of all stock intakes. You may get a little more pleasant to gear heads intake noise with the swiss cheese mod.
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OK, the bottom picture will allow more exposure to air, but your filter size is still restrictive. You allowed your vette to breath easier but you really haven't increased the air flow until you give it more air surface. Look at the size of the Honkers, the duel cones if flaten out they have more air space to suck in more air..

For those who want to keep that stock look, your idea is great. I did the same, but I noticed no gain. After installing the Duel Cone and cutting holes in the fog housing did I see and feel more power.. (it opened up on the freeway and didn't have that "I need more air feel and sound").


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