C5 Front Caliper in Rear
02-24-2012, 12:10 PM
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St. Jude Donor '10-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17
you can also use 1994 mustang front calipers single piston , but larger , i have the brackets and you can use the large 2008 z06 rotors , on the rear , i had this setup on my 1999 vette for over a year before i changed all the brakes to 2008 z06 front and rear.. wheels are 18 front 19 rear. pics if you want
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02-28-2012, 11:54 AM
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I ordered the brake hoses from NAPA (38253). I picked them up and the hoses have a mounting bracket attached to the hose. Did you remove the bracket, as I dont seem to see it in your pictures, or did I not get the correct hoses? The box does state part number 38253 on it. Thanks for any info. I have the brackets and calipers at the powder coater now. Just waiting for the C6 Z51 rear rotors to arrive they were delayed in shipping. Then I will get started on the conversion.
03-05-2012, 02:40 AM
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We are putting the C5Z front setup on the rear of our T1 car currently. Going to go with a less aggressive pad than what we ran on the front to help with any 'bias' issue. We have the WW SL6R setup on the front with the 'H' pads.
Testing won't be till April tho..........its cold here in Nebraska.
Testing won't be till April tho..........its cold here in Nebraska.
80mph stops were dead straight and true (solving another mystery) and I even leaned her into the ABS a few times and it worked as designed as far as I can tell. No surprises. My driver was behind me and noted no wheel lockup.
Will know more when we test in early April (hopefully warmer) so we can really lean on them. Will update again with race condition tests.
03-13-2012, 05:42 PM
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Getting ready to do this mod, but had to wait on first delayed shipping of the C6 Z51 rear rotors and then the powder coating of the calipers has taken sightly longer to complete. In the mean time I had ordered the NAPA hoses as Melvin used (note they come with a mounting bracket that has to be removed), but have since also found a set of braided stainless steel lines from forum vendor Mid America Motorworks. I called them to verify and their set measures 18 inches for the front lines and 19 inches for the rear lines. So I will be ordering a set from them to use as well. Their part number is 603-461. Just wish they came in blue.
03-14-2012, 09:58 PM
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OK the pieces are finally coming together.
The C6 Z51 rear rotors, crossed drilled and black hats:
The calipers back from the powder coater in blue as close as I could come to ZR1 blue:
Brackets in same color. Milled bracket for rear is on left:
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Caliper and bracket together:
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Have to wait now for the braided lines and the front crossed drilled C5 rotors. Will update as progress continues.
The C6 Z51 rear rotors, crossed drilled and black hats:
The calipers back from the powder coater in blue as close as I could come to ZR1 blue:
Brackets in same color. Milled bracket for rear is on left:
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[/IMG]Caliper and bracket together:
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[/IMG]Have to wait now for the braided lines and the front crossed drilled C5 rotors. Will update as progress continues.
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03-16-2012, 12:40 AM
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70+ degrees forecast here in Nebraska on Saturday .......hoping for an all out test session at Mid America Motorplex...........!!!! Will see how the new setup works.........
03-18-2012, 08:22 AM
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Spent an hour beating on the new brakes yesterday. No pedal fade, no ABS issues. She brakes in a straight line every time. I think we can call this 'mod' a success.
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03-18-2012, 12:29 PM
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03-18-2012, 09:29 PM
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Grin.........my notes are easy. Take the old front brakes out of the spares box......remove back brakes.....install front brakes on back. LOL........no ebrake makes this simple.
03-19-2012, 11:57 AM
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Ok we should make your notes a sticky...
I wanted to keep the E-brake function, hence the C6 Z51 rear rotor and the milled brackets and turned down rotor or clearanced brackets/calipers. Once I complete my install I will write up a brief summary for any who may be interested. Melvingregory pretty much detailed his process earlier in this thread.
03-19-2012, 05:31 PM
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Ok we should make your notes a sticky...I wanted to keep the E-brake function, hence the C6 Z51 rear rotor and the milled brackets and turned down rotor or clearanced brackets/calipers. Once I complete my install I will write up a brief summary for any who may be interested. Melvingregory pretty much detailed his process earlier in this thread.
03-24-2012, 10:21 PM
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Caliper project complete
I just finished putting C5 front calipers and caliper brackets and C6 Z51 13" rotors on the rear of my C5.
Nice upgrade for autocrossing and tack days.
Roger T : )
Nice upgrade for autocrossing and tack days.
Roger T : )
03-26-2012, 09:37 PM
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UPDATE: OK they are on the car. A few issues came up. 1) I mistakenly thought the boxes with the new Hawk HPS pads would include the anti-rattle clips. They did not, and no one locally had them in stock. Reused the ones from the old pads up front and had to find some for the rear in the "junk" bin at the local Corvette shop. 2) One of the new braided lines for the rear would not seat and seal so had to reuse the rubber line for now. Not sure it is wise to run 3 braided lines and one rubber so will replace the braided lines with the rubber hoses at all four corners. Still have to resolve an issue of the pedal loosing pressure. This may be related to the brake lines so will see tomorrow if replacing the braided lines fixes it. Otherwise they look good and there are no clearance issues. Will take better pics after totally finished.
03-27-2012, 05:09 PM
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Braided Lines update
Could not get the braided lines to work properly. One would not seal to the hard line and with the other three on could not get the brake pedal to hold pressure. Replaced all the lines with new rubber lines (stock fronts an the NAPA longer lines referenced earlier in this thread). Brakes work fine. One other note. I chose to turn down the C6 Z51 rotor. Having done that it reduces the fire path and the front pads now used on the rear overlap slightly. The pads had to be machined down to match.Not much but enough so that the pads would not develop an undercut at the top and possibly twist. So the moral here is that melvingregory's method of modifying the bracket and caliper to clear a stock C6 Z51 rotor is probably a better way to go. When, if, I need to replace the rear rotors I will go that way.
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04-12-2012, 02:56 PM
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Could not get the braided lines to work properly. One would not seal to the hard line and with the other three on could not get the brake pedal to hold pressure. Replaced all the lines with new rubber lines (stock fronts an the NAPA longer lines referenced earlier in this thread). Brakes work fine. One other note. I chose to turn down the C06 Z51 rotor. Having done that it reduces the fire path and the front pads now used on the rear overlap slightly. The pads had to be machined down to match.Not much but enough so that the pads would not develop an undercut at the top and possibly twist. So the moral here is that melvingregory's method of modifying the bracket and caliper to clear a stock C6 Z51 rotor is probably a better way to go. When, if, I need to replace the rear rotors I will go that way.
04-13-2012, 01:14 PM
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Do you think this mod would work with the eradispeed plus 2 rear rotors? I have those front and back but the back is super oversized. It would look great not having that tiny caliper back there.
04-13-2012, 05:05 PM
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sorry just saw that you said you are running them up front as well.
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04-13-2012, 05:13 PM
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Thanks the color did come out nice and looks good on my black coupe. Good to hear you are not having any issues. The only thing I am considering is a way to change the rear bias to increase some rear braking. Looking into an adjustable brake master cylinder to see if that may be the way to go. However they are expensive and I can only find one supplier.