Roller Rockers
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Drifting
I personally have Harland Sharp but I have trick flow heads and after market rockers are recomended for them. Alot of people like the Yella Terras and Jessels can be really expensive. The main thing about them is setting them up correctly.
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Safety Car
Have Jesel 1:8 shaft mounted on my modded 2000. Ported stock heads & cam. Over 10 yrs.
Need to grind a bit of clearance in rocker covers , but, no biggie.
Need to grind a bit of clearance in rocker covers , but, no biggie.
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What heads are you running? If aftermarkets arent recomended like with the trick flow heads then stick with your stock rockers. There is lots of research and threads on this topic. The stock rockers have one of the best swipe patterns and are light. The only problem people have with is the needle bearing coming. Comp Cams sells an upgrade kit for the stock rockers that prevents this and it cost about 1/3 of after market rockers.
I personally have Harland Sharp but I have trick flow heads and after market rockers are recomended for them. Alot of people like the Yella Terras and Jessels can be really expensive. The main thing about them is setting them up correctly.
I personally have Harland Sharp but I have trick flow heads and after market rockers are recomended for them. Alot of people like the Yella Terras and Jessels can be really expensive. The main thing about them is setting them up correctly.
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Drifting
I found that my HS roller tip rockers helped quiet the valve train noise over stock rockers. 16K on the HS and no issues/adj. yet, they're O.K. with me so far.
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Team Owner
I would disagree with that statement and it is the whole reason aftermarket heads recommend roller rockers rather then stockers. I tried to get my stockers to work on both Dart and AFR heads, wipe pattern was very wide and uncorrectable. My Yella Terra's, properly set up, came up with a pattern perfectly centered and 0.045" wide which will help minimize side loads on my guides. Here's what Tony thinks: Link
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do you guys know why the stock rockers don't have rollers? I am pretty sure it is so the valve spins. and the reason most after market guys have the roller tips is because that is the cheapest and strongest way to mount a tip on aluminum.
the stock rockers are quite good and good for the motor. if the swipes were bad on the valves, it may have been assembled wrong or abused.
who would abuse a corvette?
but wth massive cams and big *** valves/heads, you need aftermarket
the stock rockers are quite good and good for the motor. if the swipes were bad on the valves, it may have been assembled wrong or abused.
who would abuse a corvette?
but wth massive cams and big *** valves/heads, you need aftermarket
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Until you have marked the end of a valve and rotated the cam through it's lift cycle, you may not fully understand what Vettenuts is talking about. It doesn't take a large cam (i.e. my 224/230) for side loading with stock rockers to become a real problem. Not saying that stock rockers aren't strong - just that the flat tip absolutely will not give you a tight contact patch on the valve tip once you increase cam lift.
I would encourage you to actually pull a couple rockers off, mark them, and then come back and comment in this thread.
and to the OP - any of the rockers that you listed will be quality pieces. Find a good price and buy them.
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Former Vendor
for what it's worth, here's what I've seen over the years...
1 - The stock rocker arm is excellent- especially with the above mentioned Comp Cams trunnion upgrade
* Rigid and lightweight
* Low Cost
* Carry High RPM without "nosing-over"
* Reliable and easily available
2 - Lower Cost Roller Rockers
* many will nose over above 6500 RPM ( tip weight)
* Most are not adjustable
* Some require a taller valve cover or valve cover spacer
* Available in offsets and various ratios
3 High end roller rocker arms - Jesel, Crower, T&D -
* Available in all ratios as well as adjustable and non-adjustable.
* Available in any offset or ratio
* Require a taller valve cover or valve cover spacer
* May require cylinder head machining to mount
1 - The stock rocker arm is excellent- especially with the above mentioned Comp Cams trunnion upgrade
* Rigid and lightweight
* Low Cost
* Carry High RPM without "nosing-over"
* Reliable and easily available
2 - Lower Cost Roller Rockers
* many will nose over above 6500 RPM ( tip weight)
* Most are not adjustable
* Some require a taller valve cover or valve cover spacer
* Available in offsets and various ratios
3 High end roller rocker arms - Jesel, Crower, T&D -
* Available in all ratios as well as adjustable and non-adjustable.
* Available in any offset or ratio
* Require a taller valve cover or valve cover spacer
* May require cylinder head machining to mount
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for what it's worth, here's what I've seen over the years...
1 - The stock rocker arm is excellent- especially with the above mentioned Comp Cams trunnion upgrade
* Rigid and lightweight
* Low Cost
* Carry High RPM without "nosing-over"
* Reliable and easily available
2 - Lower Cost Roller Rockers
* many will nose over above 6500 RPM ( tip weight)
* Most are not adjustable
* Some require a taller valve cover or valve cover spacer
* Available in offsets and various ratios
3 High end roller rocker arms - Jesel, Crower, T&D -
* Available in all ratios as well as adjustable and non-adjustable.
* Available in any offset or ratio
* Require a taller valve cover or valve cover spacer
* May require cylinder head machining to mount
1 - The stock rocker arm is excellent- especially with the above mentioned Comp Cams trunnion upgrade
* Rigid and lightweight
* Low Cost
* Carry High RPM without "nosing-over"
* Reliable and easily available
2 - Lower Cost Roller Rockers
* many will nose over above 6500 RPM ( tip weight)
* Most are not adjustable
* Some require a taller valve cover or valve cover spacer
* Available in offsets and various ratios
3 High end roller rocker arms - Jesel, Crower, T&D -
* Available in all ratios as well as adjustable and non-adjustable.
* Available in any offset or ratio
* Require a taller valve cover or valve cover spacer
* May require cylinder head machining to mount
What do you mean by "nosing over"?
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Safety Car
for what it's worth, here's what I've seen over the years...
1 - The stock rocker arm is excellent- especially with the above mentioned Comp Cams trunnion upgrade
* Rigid and lightweight
* Low Cost
* Carry High RPM without "nosing-over"
* Reliable and easily available
2 - Lower Cost Roller Rockers
* many will nose over above 6500 RPM ( tip weight)
* Most are not adjustable
* Some require a taller valve cover or valve cover spacer
* Available in offsets and various ratios
3 High end roller rocker arms - Jesel, Crower, T&D -
* Available in all ratios as well as adjustable and non-adjustable.
* Available in any offset or ratio
* Require a taller valve cover or valve cover spacer
* May require cylinder head machining to mount
1 - The stock rocker arm is excellent- especially with the above mentioned Comp Cams trunnion upgrade
* Rigid and lightweight
* Low Cost
* Carry High RPM without "nosing-over"
* Reliable and easily available
2 - Lower Cost Roller Rockers
* many will nose over above 6500 RPM ( tip weight)
* Most are not adjustable
* Some require a taller valve cover or valve cover spacer
* Available in offsets and various ratios
3 High end roller rocker arms - Jesel, Crower, T&D -
* Available in all ratios as well as adjustable and non-adjustable.
* Available in any offset or ratio
* Require a taller valve cover or valve cover spacer
* May require cylinder head machining to mount
What do you think of the SLP 1.85s? They are the stock rocker arm with the Comp trunion upgrade installed by Comp and made into 1.85 rockers.
Ed
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Former Vendor
#17
Former Vendor
No problems here. Just bear in mind the physics and geometry associated with increased ratios and don't get greedy - i.e., cracking open valves well past lobe designs or cylinder fill capability.
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Team Owner
#19
Le Mans Master
Jesels are the best hands down.
A cheaper alternatine is a yella terra lightweight rockers.
My 346 h/c made peak hp just over 7000rpms and lost about 10 hp up to 7500rpms.
Swipe pattern and geometry is important.
A cheaper alternatine is a yella terra lightweight rockers.
My 346 h/c made peak hp just over 7000rpms and lost about 10 hp up to 7500rpms.
Swipe pattern and geometry is important.
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Safety Car
Ed