Vette's not ready to be tested
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Vette's not ready to be tested
I've had the 02 C5 since mid November. prior owner put in a new interstate battery. I failed NJ inpection due to systems not being ready to be tested on State's emissions computer, some say the car has to be driven and reset itself? whats this all about? Is their a resync procedure I can do?
I want to get rid of the failed sticker and pass inspection so I can drive the car now that it looks like the weather will break.
Thanks for your help
I want to get rid of the failed sticker and pass inspection so I can drive the car now that it looks like the weather will break.
Thanks for your help
#2
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i dont understand why they wont just force the readiness tests, but they are correct. take the car for a long highway cruise if you have somewhere to go, take your vette. the evaporative emissions systems and catalytic converter monitors need to run random tests to verify they are working properly. they run the tests every once in a while. usually my o2 monitors set on a long highway cruise.
-Jeremy
-Jeremy
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Try this : Cold Start. In order to be classified as a cold start the engine coolant temperature must be below 50°C (122°F) and within 6°C (11°F) of the ambient air temperature at startup. Do not leave the key on prior to the cold start or the heated oxygen sensor diagnostic may not run.
Idle. The engine must be run for two and a half minutes with the air conditioner on and rear defroster on. The more electrical load you can apply the better. This will test the O2 heater, Passive Air, Purge "No Flow", Misfire and if closed loop is achieved, Fuel Trim.
Accelerate. Turn off the air conditioner and all the other loads and apply half throttle until 88km/hr (55mph) is reached. During this time the Misfire, Fuel Trim, and Purge Flow diagnostics will be performed.
Hold Steady Speed. Hold a steady speed of 88km/hr (55mph) for 3 minutes. During this time the O2 response, air Intrusive, EGR, Purge, Misfire, and Fuel Trim diagnostics will be performed.
Decelerate. Let off the accelerator pedal. Do not shift, touch the brake or clutch. It is important to let the vehicle coast along gradually slowing down to 32km/hr (20 mph). During this time the EGR, Purge and Fuel Trim diagnostics will be performed.
Accelerate. Accelerate at 3/4 throttle until 88-96 km/hr (55-60mph). This will perform the same diagnostics as in step 3.
Hold Steady Speed. Hold a steady speed of 88km/hr (55mph) for five minutes. During this time, in addition to the diagnostics performed in step 4, the catalyst monitor diagnostics will be performed. If the catalyst is marginal or the battery has been disconnected, it may take 5 complete driving cycles to determine the state of the catalyst.
Decelerate. This will perform the same diagnostics as in step 5. Again, don't press the clutch or brakes or shift gears.
This is what it takes to get ready for emissions test. Just a long drive won't do it.
Idle. The engine must be run for two and a half minutes with the air conditioner on and rear defroster on. The more electrical load you can apply the better. This will test the O2 heater, Passive Air, Purge "No Flow", Misfire and if closed loop is achieved, Fuel Trim.
Accelerate. Turn off the air conditioner and all the other loads and apply half throttle until 88km/hr (55mph) is reached. During this time the Misfire, Fuel Trim, and Purge Flow diagnostics will be performed.
Hold Steady Speed. Hold a steady speed of 88km/hr (55mph) for 3 minutes. During this time the O2 response, air Intrusive, EGR, Purge, Misfire, and Fuel Trim diagnostics will be performed.
Decelerate. Let off the accelerator pedal. Do not shift, touch the brake or clutch. It is important to let the vehicle coast along gradually slowing down to 32km/hr (20 mph). During this time the EGR, Purge and Fuel Trim diagnostics will be performed.
Accelerate. Accelerate at 3/4 throttle until 88-96 km/hr (55-60mph). This will perform the same diagnostics as in step 3.
Hold Steady Speed. Hold a steady speed of 88km/hr (55mph) for five minutes. During this time, in addition to the diagnostics performed in step 4, the catalyst monitor diagnostics will be performed. If the catalyst is marginal or the battery has been disconnected, it may take 5 complete driving cycles to determine the state of the catalyst.
Decelerate. This will perform the same diagnostics as in step 5. Again, don't press the clutch or brakes or shift gears.
This is what it takes to get ready for emissions test. Just a long drive won't do it.
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Try this : Cold Start. In order to be classified as a cold start the engine coolant temperature must be below 50°C (122°F) and within 6°C (11°F) of the ambient air temperature at startup. Do not leave the key on prior to the cold start or the heated oxygen sensor diagnostic may not run.
Idle. The engine must be run for two and a half minutes with the air conditioner on and rear defroster on. The more electrical load you can apply the better. This will test the O2 heater, Passive Air, Purge "No Flow", Misfire and if closed loop is achieved, Fuel Trim.
Accelerate. Turn off the air conditioner and all the other loads and apply half throttle until 88km/hr (55mph) is reached. During this time the Misfire, Fuel Trim, and Purge Flow diagnostics will be performed.
Hold Steady Speed. Hold a steady speed of 88km/hr (55mph) for 3 minutes. During this time the O2 response, air Intrusive, EGR, Purge, Misfire, and Fuel Trim diagnostics will be performed.
Decelerate. Let off the accelerator pedal. Do not shift, touch the brake or clutch. It is important to let the vehicle coast along gradually slowing down to 32km/hr (20 mph). During this time the EGR, Purge and Fuel Trim diagnostics will be performed.
Accelerate. Accelerate at 3/4 throttle until 88-96 km/hr (55-60mph). This will perform the same diagnostics as in step 3.
Hold Steady Speed. Hold a steady speed of 88km/hr (55mph) for five minutes. During this time, in addition to the diagnostics performed in step 4, the catalyst monitor diagnostics will be performed. If the catalyst is marginal or the battery has been disconnected, it may take 5 complete driving cycles to determine the state of the catalyst.
Decelerate. This will perform the same diagnostics as in step 5. Again, don't press the clutch or brakes or shift gears.
This is what it takes to get ready for emissions test. Just a long drive won't do it.
Idle. The engine must be run for two and a half minutes with the air conditioner on and rear defroster on. The more electrical load you can apply the better. This will test the O2 heater, Passive Air, Purge "No Flow", Misfire and if closed loop is achieved, Fuel Trim.
Accelerate. Turn off the air conditioner and all the other loads and apply half throttle until 88km/hr (55mph) is reached. During this time the Misfire, Fuel Trim, and Purge Flow diagnostics will be performed.
Hold Steady Speed. Hold a steady speed of 88km/hr (55mph) for 3 minutes. During this time the O2 response, air Intrusive, EGR, Purge, Misfire, and Fuel Trim diagnostics will be performed.
Decelerate. Let off the accelerator pedal. Do not shift, touch the brake or clutch. It is important to let the vehicle coast along gradually slowing down to 32km/hr (20 mph). During this time the EGR, Purge and Fuel Trim diagnostics will be performed.
Accelerate. Accelerate at 3/4 throttle until 88-96 km/hr (55-60mph). This will perform the same diagnostics as in step 3.
Hold Steady Speed. Hold a steady speed of 88km/hr (55mph) for five minutes. During this time, in addition to the diagnostics performed in step 4, the catalyst monitor diagnostics will be performed. If the catalyst is marginal or the battery has been disconnected, it may take 5 complete driving cycles to determine the state of the catalyst.
Decelerate. This will perform the same diagnostics as in step 5. Again, don't press the clutch or brakes or shift gears.
This is what it takes to get ready for emissions test. Just a long drive won't do it.
I'd fail just reading this stuff.......good thing I don't live there!
#9
The tests are called I/M monitors, they test things like Heated O2's, Evap System, etc. You can read their READINESS on the cheap Actron scanners. Here in Illinois you allowed I believe 2 not ready, some states allow one and some none.
ANYTIME you clear codes OR disconnect the battery, they ALL RESET.
ANYTIME you clear codes OR disconnect the battery, they ALL RESET.
#12
The CEL light on will also most likely casuse you to FAIL in most states that test.
#13
Not to steal this thread, but is it correct that if you clear any code that the I/M monitors get reset? If I have an SCM code that I clear individually, leaving all other codes that might be set for say the PCM, the I/M Monitors still get reset? Or is it that any emissions code that you reset results in reseting the I/M monitors????
#14
I dealt with this problem for weeks, trying to get the OBD to cycle. I wound up just going to a local tuner and the problem was solved within about 15 minutes. I went to TTP in Little Falls, NJ, but they closed. However I head that Matt moved to ECS (he's the one who fixed my computer issue)
Just go to ECS and they will sort out the problem for you.
Just go to ECS and they will sort out the problem for you.
#15
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Haha! You don't have to do all that procedure every time you get a smog check. Just normal driving over time will get them all done. These steps are good if your in a hurry and just changed the battery or something like that. Hope he passes!
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There’s more to this than just drive cycle requirement.. Like it was stated previously, anytime you disconnect the battery or reset the DTCs you get IM Not ready flags until you complete the required drive cycles. This isn’t a GM requirement but an EPA requirement that GM and all other US Vehicles must comply with.
You can also get the same I/M not ready flags IF, you lose battery voltage to one of the modules involved in an emissions status (PCM/BCM)
You can have DTCs as long as the CEL light is NOT on. There are NON EMISSIONS DTCs that will not light the CEL light.
I have seen cars with a defective ignition switch fail emissions as the voltage requires to operate the PCM was not correct. You can go to AUTOZONE and they will be able to tell you if the I/M monitor status flags are Y or N.
If you have a weak or OLD battery, during cranking the starter will draw high current and the battery voltage can drop down below the PCM/BCM low voltage cut off.
What DTCs continue to POP when your driving?
BC
You can also get the same I/M not ready flags IF, you lose battery voltage to one of the modules involved in an emissions status (PCM/BCM)
You can have DTCs as long as the CEL light is NOT on. There are NON EMISSIONS DTCs that will not light the CEL light.
I have seen cars with a defective ignition switch fail emissions as the voltage requires to operate the PCM was not correct. You can go to AUTOZONE and they will be able to tell you if the I/M monitor status flags are Y or N.
If you have a weak or OLD battery, during cranking the starter will draw high current and the battery voltage can drop down below the PCM/BCM low voltage cut off.
What DTCs continue to POP when your driving?
BC
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Wow thanks i also needed this info, my inspection sticker is up, and i will to get reinspected, and yes i just put in a new battery a little while ago, and havent taken her for a ride.
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NOTE! If you FULLY FILL the fuel tank, the fuel tank portion of the test will NOT set ready till your below something like 1/2 tank. Have to look in the service manual for the exact level.
#19
That's why I have a cheapy Actron OBD reader, it can get the stuff you can't get from the DIC-you'll know if you'll pass BEFORE you go in. You can also use the reader on other cars.
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"There’s more to this than just drive cycle requirement.." Yes but he is not saying he has done drive cycles and it still shows not ready. One step at a time..........