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Old 02-14-2010, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JCamaro
Those all look like good numbers...and most are long time forum members with good rep.

Enlightening post.
Yes I agree (enlighting) in aleast one respect imo, I have read guys say a number of times no rwhp gain with a catback system on a C5. But if you read the link I posted with dyno chart numbers with the Magnaflows before & after and look at PeterPans numbers w/catback only they point to a possible 8-12 rwhp gain with a catback system imo. Also from my previous research Devilman02 from this forum with a manual 2002 C5 made 310rwhp/315rwtq sae corrected with a catback & X only on a MUSTANG dyno. Would be interesting to see what he would of made on a dynojet dyno.

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Originally Posted by TR97C5
Yes I agree (enlighting) in aleast one respect imo, I have read guys say a number of times no rwhp gain with a catback system on a C5. But if you read the link I posted with dyno chart numbers with the Magnaflows before & after and look at PeterPans numbers w/catback only they point to a possible 10-12 rwhp gain with a catback system imo. Also from my previous research Devilman02 from this forum with a manual 2002 C5 made 310rwhp/315rwtq sae corrected with a catback & X only on a MUSTANG dyno. Would be interesting to see what he would of made on a dynojet dyno.
VetteWeb...has a number of articles and they always do before and after dynos usually the same day, on the same dyno and they indicate the magnaflow x-pipe and catbacks do offer gains....

Some people get defensive when they spend $$$ on upgrades and don't get much more results than what a simple catback and x would give them. They denounce it and say that the gain is nothing....or that it's a "happy" dyno.

People also need to realize that these are mass produced engines and there will be a certain amount of inherent variation in results. + or - 5% wouldn't be unheard of would it?
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Originally Posted by TR97C5
From dynos I researched of bone stock Ls1 C5’s a few months ago.

Auto 275-290 rwhp
Manual 295-310 rwhp
Correct.

Also...

'01 Zo6s average 335 rwhp
'02+ Zo6s average 350-360 rwhp.

p.s. I've spent years on ls1tech which is geared mainly towards f-bodies with ls1 engines and it's common for the 98-00 Camaro/Trans Am to dyno 285-305 rwhp & '01-'02 to dyno 300-315 due to the live rear axle absorbing less hp compared to the Corvette's IRS set-up. The f-bodies had lower crank hp ratings from the factory... but everyone knew they were the identical engine (and I mean EXACT) that the Corvette had.... --The f-body had lower factory ratings yet they dyno'd higher!

The Corvette was still a little quicker (even with less rwhp) due to lighter weight and better aerodynamics especially in the xxx speeds. It was
always a "thing" in the early days to modify an f-body on a budget and hand a Corvette (or mustang) his azz... with Grey Poupon.
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Old 02-15-2010, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TR97C5
209Time below are notes from my research on rwhp of C5's LS1's

Stock auto 278rwhp stock before Mangnaflow mufflers. 290 rwhp with Magnaflow mufflers & 293rwhp with X pipe & Magnaflow mufflers
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=461


2001 auto 287 rwhp
http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/foru...t=94479&page=2

Member Clif 1999 auto from this forum made 275rwhp
Member Jaygood auto from this forum 1999 made 289rwhp


2000 C5 Manual 309rwhp he cut a hole in the stock airbox to let a little more air in.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...ppy-owner.html

Member DevilDogII manual from this forum stock 1998 made 310rwhp
Member blaulula 99 manual from this forum bone stock 296rwhp.
Member PeterPan manual from this forum 1999 stock with Corsa mufflers only made 317rwhp.
Member LoneStarFRC '99 FRC from this forum bone stock 309.5
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i started this thread because the guys at Borla didnt give me a stock baseline to compare with.

my car is a 2000 a4 bone stock,they built a custom set of LT headers X-pipe and a cat-back, and my car put out 333 rwhp on the dyno.....thats what the graph says.

so what do you guys think....i will post pic's later.......please dont shoot the messenger if you dont agree with any of the info that was posted.
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Old 02-15-2010, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 209TIME!!!
i started this thread because the guys at Borla didnt give me a stock baseline to compare with.

my car is a 2000 a4 bone stock,they built a custom set of LT headers X-pipe and a cat-back, and my car put out 333 rwhp on the dyno.....thats what the graph says.

so what do you guys think....i will post pic's later.......please dont shoot the messenger if you dont agree with any of the info that was posted.
Congrats nice pick up in rwhp imo and sounds believable to me with an auto running a catback, X pipe and LT's. For comparison from my previous research here is a dyno of 1999 C5 with just LG steet headers putting down 335rwhp/ 351rwtq so yours looks good. The only thing it doesn't say if it this is an auto or manual but I am thinking it is a manual but not 100% sure.

http://lgmotorsports.com/gallery/dis...lbum=3&pos=102


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Old 02-15-2010, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TR97C5
Congrats nice pick up in rwhp imo and sounds believable to me with an auto running a catback, X pipe and LT's. For comparison from my previous research here is a dyno of 1999 C5 with just LG steet headers putting down 335rwhp/ 351rwtq so yours looks good. The only thing it doesn't say if it this is an auto or manual but I am thinking it is a manual but not 100% sure.

http://lgmotorsports.com/gallery/dis...lbum=3&pos=102


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it says 2000 A4 in my post.....my car needs a tune real bad now....
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Originally Posted by ~Joshua
Correct.

Also...

'01 Zo6s average 335 rwhp
'02+ Zo6s average 350-360 rwhp.

p.s. I've spent years on ls1tech which is geared mainly towards f-bodies with ls1 engines and it's common for the 98-00 Camaro/Trans Am to dyno 285-305 rwhp & '01-'02 to dyno 300-315 due to the live rear axle absorbing less hp compared to the Corvette's IRS set-up. The f-bodies had lower crank hp ratings from the factory... but everyone knew they were the identical engine (and I mean EXACT) that the Corvette had.... --The f-body had lower factory ratings yet they dyno'd higher!

The Corvette was still a little quicker (even with less rwhp) due to lighter weight and better aerodynamics especially in the xxx speeds. It was
always a "thing" in the early days to modify an f-body on a budget and hand a Corvette (or mustang) his azz... with Grey Poupon.
Thanks for this info. You know I like the live axle better of course when going to the 1/4 track only, wish my C5 had it when at the track for better launches (stronger & no/less wheel hop) but didn't occur to me also about more rwhp on a LA would also be there till (less loss) you posted this info on the which makes sense. Also never researched Z06's rwhp avgs since I have a LS1 but had an rough ideal but now have solid info thanks to your post.

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Originally Posted by 209TIME!!!
it says 2000 A4 in my post.....my car needs a tune real bad now....


No I am talking about if the 1999 C5 that put down 335rwhp with LG headers is an auto or a manual not yours.
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Originally Posted by TR97C5
No I am talking about if the 1999 C5 that put down 335rwhp with LG headers is an auto or a manual not yours.
Oh sorry about that .....
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Mine is a 99 manual C5 and with Vararam, Catback, X-pipe, and predator canned tune, it put down 321rwhp. Still was running fat so it had more in it.

Now it is Supercharged and putting down 500rwhp.
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Originally Posted by ~Joshua
Correct.

Also...

'01 Zo6s average 335 rwhp
'02+ Zo6s average 350-360 rwhp.

p.s. I've spent years on ls1tech which is geared mainly towards f-bodies with ls1 engines and it's common for the 98-00 Camaro/Trans Am to dyno 285-305 rwhp & '01-'02 to dyno 300-315 due to the live rear axle absorbing less hp compared to the Corvette's IRS set-up. The f-bodies had lower crank hp ratings from the factory... but everyone knew they were the identical engine (and I mean EXACT) that the Corvette had.... --The f-body had lower factory ratings yet they dyno'd higher!

The Corvette was still a little quicker (even with less rwhp) due to lighter weight and better aerodynamics especially in the xxx speeds. It was
always a "thing" in the early days to modify an f-body on a budget and hand a Corvette (or mustang) his azz... with Grey Poupon.
I had an '02 WS6 T/A that I slapped a lid and ran a no muffler cat-back and it ran the same time's as my vette does stock. 13.0's
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:37 PM
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1999 M6, only mod that could affect RWHP at the time was the repro 18x10.5 Zo6 wheels in the back, so if anything, numbers could have been higher. This was with 58K on the clock and what I presumed to be the original plugs and air filter on the car when I took them off a couple weeks later.

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In my book any car that puts down 300 rwhp is very respectable, especially stock.
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My almost stock 02 put down 329 RWHP and 343 RWTQ

At the time A4 with 2:73 gears, Blackwing and Corsa Pace Car Cat Back. This was after my tune. Baseline was 319 RWHP and 333 RWTQ


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Bone stock Mine put down 303. 03 Coupe A4, 3.15 gears. A few mods have been done since then...

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Bone stock 99 A4 dyno.
shutting down early because of what you can see.

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Figure ~ 12% powertrain loss for a manual trans and ~15% powertrain loss for an automatic and you'll have a rough conversion for crank hp to rear wheel hp calculations...
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~321hp/338tq with Magnaflow & Honker. Heads/cam are going on now. The hp has to come up. 2011 Mustangs are going to be eating C5s.



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