Is it possible to reduce C5 steering effort?
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Drifting
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Is it possible to reduce C5 steering effort?
Is it possible to somehow reduce steering effort? I would like steering effort reduced by about 20%. I am used to driving older cars and trucks, with LOTS of steering assist. A lot of those older vehicles probably had way too much steering assist, lol, but I think the Vette does not have enough assist. It takes a little too much effort to work the wheel while driving, IMO................ Car is a 2004 C5.
NOTE: I realize it has the Variable Effort Steering (VES) system, or MAGNASTEER IIŽ variable assist steering and this is supposedly for my own safety: yada, yada, yada. I simply want less steering effort.
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NOTE: I realize it has the Variable Effort Steering (VES) system, or MAGNASTEER IIŽ variable assist steering and this is supposedly for my own safety: yada, yada, yada. I simply want less steering effort.
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Last edited by Chevy-SS; 01-07-2009 at 01:50 PM.
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Le Mans Master
less caster in the alignment should help some, but i'd say hit the gym more because the vette isn't/shouldn't be that hard to turn. You sure everything is working fine?
#7
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Well, you guys are tough. I grew up on cars and trucks that had tons of assist. That's the way I like it. I use a 30-pound weight at home here to work out with (plus Nautilus machines at the gym), so I know my arms are plenty strong, lol.
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I think there is something with alignment that affects steering resistance. I just had an "incident" with my car whereby I slid into a concrete curb and bent my front wheel and damaged the wheel bearing. Insurance paid for a new wheel, tire, bearing and alignment but since getting the car back it steers MUCH harder at slow speeds. I plan to take it back to have it checked out. I go to the gym but it still steers too hard for me. Especially having gotten used to the way it was supposed to be.
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Get an alignment done and have them take out some caster. I've had a few different alignments on my car over the years and caster makes a noticeable difference in the steering effort, particularly at speed when the variable assist dials back the power steering.
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Mine became very hard to steer after the dealership installed my last steering rack. I did a vacuum purge on the system and steering improved about 20%. You may have air in the system?
The dealership told me they had done a vacuum purge during the re-install and that the only way they could improve the steering effort would be to order/install yet another steering rack to see if that would fix it. They said that air in the system would not cause it to steer harder. I took the car home - put a vacuum on the Power Steering filler neck according to directions I found here on the forum and that fixed it for me. You could actually hear the gurgle as the air was removed at one point. Took about 5 minutes.
The dealership told me they had done a vacuum purge during the re-install and that the only way they could improve the steering effort would be to order/install yet another steering rack to see if that would fix it. They said that air in the system would not cause it to steer harder. I took the car home - put a vacuum on the Power Steering filler neck according to directions I found here on the forum and that fixed it for me. You could actually hear the gurgle as the air was removed at one point. Took about 5 minutes.
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The magnasteer increases steering effort as the car goes faster. The system operates by electrically boosting the assist at slow speeds while there is only hyraulic assist at medium speeds and at high speeds the system electrically adds resistance so the effort is harder. Usually if something fails in this area the steering stays light as a feather from slow speed to high. I had this happen to my 97 and since the car's steering response is very quick at high speeds you really want the extra effort or you would be changing lanes every time you sneezed, coughed or passed gas. At 140+ you want the steering effort to get harder rather than easier.
If your steering is excessively hard at slow speeds or when parking the car then there probably is something wrong with the rack or the power steering pump. You should be able to turn the steering wheel with your fingers while parking the car.
Bill
If your steering is excessively hard at slow speeds or when parking the car then there probably is something wrong with the rack or the power steering pump. You should be able to turn the steering wheel with your fingers while parking the car.
Bill
Last edited by Bill Dearborn; 01-08-2009 at 12:46 AM.
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Bill, thanks. I like lots of caster, maximum caster is my friend. I like a vehicle to track straight. But I am used to older cars, where steering effort is almost non-existent. I am not trying to duplicate those cars. Just trying to see if there's easy way to lighten it a little on the Vette.
If not, no big deal.
thanks, Dave
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If not, no big deal.
thanks, Dave
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#20
Le Mans Master
No you do not want that on a sports car unless of course you wish to easily wreck it.
You should be able to turn the wheel withe one finger and thumb, if not you have a power steering / rack issue.
I too had a very stiff steering wheel after an install from the stealership. They fixed it
You should be able to turn the wheel withe one finger and thumb, if not you have a power steering / rack issue.
I too had a very stiff steering wheel after an install from the stealership. They fixed it