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Old 10-10-2008, 02:39 PM   #1
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Any opinions/info concerning the dual cone type intakes like the link below vs the halltech venoms, stingers or others of that type with the single filter. I like the look of the dual design but how does it compare functionally?
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:42 PM   #2
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The most important things to consider are:

1) Quality and size of the filter media: Proof of filtering ability? Is its surface area large unough so that vacuum pressure at thethrottlebody is minimized?
2) Cold air: make sure that the filter has access to a cold air stream.

If your system can satisfy those requirements, it should help produce as much extra HP as most other intake systems; it's that simple.
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Old 10-10-2008, 08:57 PM   #3
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the stock air bridge was flowed and had the same numbers as a halltech...IMO, they are all hype...dosnt add any power I dont think. keep your stock air bridge and get a K&N filter...be the same thing..unless you want the super cool looks of a aftermarket,
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:18 PM   #4
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If you look at my sig (in my post, above), you'll see the gain that can be almost totally attributed to the intake system. I've been to two Dyno Day events and virtually every C5 with before and after dyno runs saw gains of 10+ RWHP. THAT's a great bang for the buck, IMO. Just because the stock airbridge can flow high numbers on a flow bench doesn't mean the stock box isn't less restrictive than an open element filter. The numbers don't lie - an aftermarket intake filter system is the way to go as long as it gets outside air and filters well.
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If you look at my sig (in my post, above), you'll see the gain that can be almost totally attributed to the intake system. I've been to two Dyno Day events and virtually every C5 with before and after dyno runs saw gains of 10+ RWHP. THAT's a great bang for the buck, IMO. Just because the stock airbridge can flow high numbers on a flow bench doesn't mean the stock box isn't less restrictive than an open element filter. The numbers don't lie - an aftermarket intake filter system is the way to go as long as it gets outside air and filters well.

thats why I said just get a filter
and you dynoed before and after a intake?????????
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Yes, I dynoed the car as stock and after the Halltech intake system. When you mentioned a K&N filter, I thought you meant a drop-in filter for the stock box. That wouldn't get you much of anything as far as horsepower goes.
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except for the hype, there's no difference
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Old 10-11-2008, 09:34 AM   #8
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except for the hype, there's no difference



many doul cone air intakes cause air turbulence going into the tb and actually slow air intake. ie less power

just a good NEW filter on a single cold air intake is about the best you can do.

and dont even bother oiling those oil cloth filters. Most ppl put too much oil on.
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If your looking for looks, the twin filter is ok, but if your looking for performance, I'd recommend VR first and stinger second.
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This comes up time after time. I have seen posts where Dyno results show no gain.

I belong to the opinion that cloth/oil filters are bad for longivity of engine. If you oil too much you cause MAF sensor contaimination. The cloth/oil filters DO NOT filter as well as dry paper. Some aftermarket filters don't fit well and allow dirt in engine. Not to mention hydrolocking with some cold air filters in the rain.

I use a 2002 (or later) ZO6 filter cover with a paper filter. This will help early C5's that have a very restrictive filter cover.
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many doul cone air intakes cause air turbulence going into the tb and actually slow air intake. ie less power

just a good NEW filter on a single cold air intake is about the best you can do.

and dont even bother oiling those oil cloth filters. Most ppl put too much oil on.
dont bother oiling the filters? are you nuts?
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Just get a Blackwing and be done with it!
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and dont even bother oiling those oil cloth filters. Most ppl put too much oil on.
If your filter was designed to be oiled, just follow the directions, let the filter sit on paper towels overnight, and install. I've been doing this for more than 5 years now and not only is my airbridge and throttle body opening spotless, but I've never had any MAF issues, either. If you are really paranoid about the oil and want a great intake setup, get the Callaway Honker. It reroutes the MAF to just before the throttlebody so that the oil has alot further to go before it can reach it.
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dont bother oiling the filters? are you nuts?
Nope not at all

PPL put way too much oil on the filters. and a new filter is good for many many miles years without re-oiling.

I have two K&N filters. I change them or rotate if or when lots of grass or dirt get on the out side of them. I clean them off.

Also some ppl like the VR, That would be personal choice. Many of us have found this to be good, but not great.

Again a single intake CAI works wonders.

Black wing and Honker tend to be the Better CAI

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Nope not at all

PPL put way too much oil on the filters. and a new filter is good for many many miles years without re-oiling.

I have two K&N filters. I change them or rotate if or when lots of grass or dirt get on the out side of them. I clean them off.

Also some ppl like the VR, That would be personal choice. Many of us have found this to be good, but not great.

Again a single intake CAI works wonders.

Black wing and Honker tend to be the Better CAI

well telling someone not to oil a filter is just plain stupid. The are meant to be oiled not over oiled. That way they catch dirt and the filter starts to do its job. If there was no oil on them you would injest a lot of dirt.
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Since many people overfill their crankcases, you probably shouldn't bother putting oil in your engine either.

It's pretty simple really...a gauze type filter needs to be oiled so it's tacky. That is the only way it can effectively filter the small particles that would otherwise pass through the filter.
If you clean the filter properly, you also strip it of it's oily residue, so it must be re-oiled.

Whether or not people tend to over-oil them is no fault of the filter, and by no means a reason not to oil it at all.


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well telling someone not to oil a filter is just plain stupid. The are meant to be oiled not over oiled. That way they catch dirt and the filter starts to do its job. If there was no oil on them you would injest a lot of dirt.
Fine believe what you want.

I know what my engine likes, I do take the heads off each winter. Clean, very clean with no carbon build ups

Oil filters come pre oiled. No need to reoil them for several years. That is why I say dont oil them, they dont need the EXTRA oil.
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After market air intakes = placebo mod.

The C5 air intake/filters are not really restrictive.
The extra noise is cool though.
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Old 10-11-2008, 06:45 PM   #19
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I may be in the minority here, but I have a dual-cone intake and I like it. I wouldn't for a moment try to tell you that it gives me any appreciable power increase. But neither does it slow the car down. It looks impressive under the hood (in my opinion), does an acceptable job of filtering the air, and flows all the air my otherwise stock engine can handle.
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I may be in the minority here, but I have a dual-cone intake and I like it. I wouldn't for a moment try to tell you that it gives me any appreciable power increase. But neither does it slow the car down. It looks impressive under the hood (in my opinion), does an acceptable job of filtering the air, and flows all the air my otherwise stock engine can handle.
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