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How will a 224/224 .581/.581 108 LSA cam do?

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Old 01-30-2006, 12:18 PM
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Ok, looks like i'm ending up with a Comp cam that has the following:

224/224 .581/.581 108 LSA

I normally would go with something in the same range but with a 112-114 LSA. I'm getting this in a trade and the cam won't be upgraded for a long time. This would go in a stock motor with 918 or 921 springs and new pushrods. Any and every thoughts on the cam would be appreciated (tuning, drivablity, power under the curve, peak power/torque, etc.)... Personal experience with this cam is a help too... Thanks
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Sounds a bit narrow for a hydraulic roller cam to me. I would expect tickover to be very lumpy.
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Yeah, I know the narrow LSA would equate to a rougher idle but I don't have a problem with it. I grew up with gen 1 engines and 10x LSA's. I really don't think that it would be that hard to tune if done correctly.
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Would this be going into a manual or auto C5? The LSA may give the auto cars some fits, but it should be able to be tuned for a manual car. I don't know how driveable it would be on the street.... I'd suspect it would idle very rough and you'd have pretty low vacuum as well.

That cam on a 114 LSA works very well; had it in our car for three years now.
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Originally Posted by C10 JDR
Sounds a bit narrow for a hydraulic roller cam to me. I would expect tickover to be very lumpy.


Might rethink the 108 go with 112 or 113
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Originally Posted by John Nowak PE
Would this be going into a manual or auto C5? The LSA may give the auto cars some fits, but it should be able to be tuned for a manual car. I don't know how driveable it would be on the street.... I'd suspect it would idle very rough and you'd have pretty low vacuum as well.

That cam on a 114 LSA works very well; had it in our car for three years now.

Sorry, forgot to mention that this is going into an 84 corvette LSx conversion with a 6 speed... pretty much a street car. I have always had hydro roller cams (more on the radical side as well) in my Gen I engines that had 110 or narrower LSA. I know that I posted this in a C5 forum and the C5 crowd will generally steer away from the narrower LSA's. Anyone have "real" experience with this type of cam in an LSx type motor and applications?

I can get a vaccume canister if need be, but I doubt that it will be required.

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You could always do a speed density tune and it will idle fine, but with the MAF it will be a bitch--
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I think the 108 on that 224/224 or 224/228 would kick butt. IMO you would be surprised @ the power especially with the intake being a crutch.
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That cam will rock! (As long a smogging it is not an issue) Mine is very close to the same except on a 112 and I love it. The driveability can be had with a good tune and the narrow LSA will make a lot of power. It may want ported heads, but you could probably get by without. Post a sound clip of the idle when your done!
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I knew you would chime in on this Phil! lol I think I will enjoy it... i'm doing it. An SD tune will be in the future once the beast is fired up and running. Thanks for the input guys. I will host some clips of the idle and all of that jazz when I get the swap done in March.

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Forgot to ask... how much hp would I see on a stock engine with this cam and a CR around 11:1, tight quench distance, stock heads, 918 springs, mid lenth headers, 3" exhaust and a good tune? Thanks

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