SPD KILZ

Tomorrow morning im going to pull my motor.... I want to be able to take the headers off first so what do I need to drop out of the front of the car before I lift the block out. Maybe a list of what to unbolt in order? Or if anyone know where I could find such a how too?

Today I took off the intake manifold and put the car on jack stand so im ready.

SPD KILZ

Ttt

NSTG8R

fwiw ... it's always been my understanding the c5 had to have the engine removed from the bottom .. the frame / car lifted off the front cradle

SPD KILZ

talked to 21ct muscle car earlier today and he told me I had to drop all the rack and also the equilivent to a K member that in F-bodys. ( i forgot what he called it) Then after that unbolt the headers,motor mounts, and the large bell housing from the big housing, and the motor will come right out of the top. He said it was simple though, yeah probably not for me though. I ordered a book on it today so I guess ill have to wait and see.

0Jeff @ TPE

This is verbatem from the GM service manual

Hope this helps...


Engine Replacement
Removal Procedure

Notice
The steps in the following procedure are in a specific order. Follow these steps in this order and do not ignore any details or vehicle damage may occur.


Tools Required


• J 33432-A Transverse Leaf Spring Compressor

• J 25034-C Pump Pulley Remover

• J 25033-C Pump Pulley Installer

• J 42188 Ball Joint Separator

• J 39580 Engine Support Table

• J 39580-500 Engine Support Table Top

• J 41798 Engine Lifting Brackets

• J 42203 Driveline Support

• J 34730-1A Fuel Pressure Gauge

• J 36221 Hydraulic Clutch Line Separator

Caution: Before servicing any electrical component, the ignition key must be in the OFF or LOCK position and all electrical loads must be OFF, unless instructed otherwise in these procedures. If a tool or equipment could easily come in contact with a live exposed electrical terminal, also disconnect the negative battery cable. Failure to follow these precautions may cause personal injury and/or damage to the vehicle or its components.





1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
2. Raise the vehicle and support..
3. Drain the coolant.
4. Lower the vehicle.
5. Recover the air conditioning system refrigerant.


6. Disconnect the intake air temperature sensor (IAT) connector.
7. Disconnect the mass air flow (MAS) sensor connector.



8. Reposition the air intake duct and the air cleaner assembly forward.
9. Remove the upper radiator support .
10. Remove the radiator.



11. Remove the Electronic Brake Control Module/Break Pressure Modulator Valve (EBTCM/BPMV) and bracket.
12. Reposition the brake pipes.



13. Remove the accessory drive belt (5).

Important: Cap the fittings and plug the holes when separating fuel system components this prevents fuel, dirt and other contaminants from entering the fuel system.





14. Remove the fuel line from the connector at front of the dash.
15. Remove the fuel rail covers.
16. Relieve the fuel system pressure using the J 34730-1A .


17. Disconnect the fuel line at the fuel rail (1).

Important: Cap the hoses and inlets when separating the cooling system components, this prevents dirt and other contaminants from entering the cooling system.






18. Disconnect the radiator hoses from the water pump.



19. Disconnect the heater hoses from the water pump.



20. Disconnect the following electrical connectors from the top of the
engine
A) Fuel injectors
B) Ignition coil main harness connectors
C) Evaporative emission (EVAP) solenoid
D) Electric throttle motor
E) Throttle position sensor (TPS)
F) Engine coolant temperature (ECT) sensor
G) Air conditioning compressor




21. Disconnect the generator electrical connectors.



22. Remove the generator.


23. Disconnect the brake booster vacuum hose from the brake booster.



24. Remove the intermediate shaft to steering gear bolt.
25. Disconnect the intermediate steering shaft from the steering gear and position it to the left onto the frame rail.



26. Disconnect the secondary air injection (AIR) hose from the left exhaust manifold.
Important: Do not remove the engine flywheel housing to driveline support assembly bolts until it is called out in the procedure.

27. Raise and suitably support the vehicle.
28. Remove both of the front tire and wheel assemblies.
29. Disconnect and unclip the heated oxygen sensors (HO2S)
connectors from the intermediate exhaust pipes.
30. Remove the intermediate exhaust pipes.


31. Remove the close-out panel bolts.
32. Remove the close-out panel.



33. Remove the positive cables from the starter.
34. Remove the (S) cable from the starter.



35. Remove the starter bolts.
36. Remove the starter from the vehicle.
37. Remove all wiring harness clips from the right side and rear of the
engine block.


38. Disconnect the oil level sensor electrical connector.
39. Disconnect the crank position sensor electrical connector.
40. Disconnect the right heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) electrical
connector.


41. Remove the air conditioning (AC) compressor hose assembly
retaining bolt.
42. Remove the air conditioning compressor hose assembly from the AC
compressor.

43. Disconnect the engine oil temperature sensor electrical connector.
44. Disconnect the left HO2S electrical connector.

45. Remove the front stabilizer shaft.

46. Disconnect the electrical connectors and harness from the electric
cooling fans.

47. Remove the electric cooling fan assembly by sliding the whole unit
upwards.


48. Loosen the tie rod end nuts (3).
49. Seperate the tie rod ends (5) from steering knuckles (4) using
J 42188 .
50. Disconnect the antilock brake system (ABS) electrical connector
clips from the crossmember (if equipped).
51. Disconnect the electronic variable orifice control (EVO) connector
clips from the crossmember.
52. Disconnect the real time damping (RTD) connector clips from the
crossmember (if equipped).


53. Remove the shock absorber lower mounting bolts.

54. Remove the front transverse leaf spring.


55. Disconnect the automatic transmission cooler pipes at the engine
flywheel housing junction (if equipped).
56. Disconnect the automatic transmission cooler pipe clamps from the
front and the rear of the engine oil pan (if equipped).

57. Disconnect the automatic transmission cooler pipes from the
radiator (if equipped).
Notice: Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.

Important: Failure to use the minimum fastener length specified will prevent proper retention of the propeller shaft during disassembly.





58. With automatic transmission vehicles, use the following steps:
A) Remove the two plug bolts in the driveline support assembly.
B) Install a M10.0-1.5 x 55 mm bolt or longer in each plug location.

C) Tighten
1)Tighten the M10 bearing support bolts to 35 N·m (26 lb ft).





59. With automatic transmission vehicles, remove the engine flywheel
housing access plug.


60. Orientate the automatic transmission flywheel hub collar to access
the bolt (1).
61. Position the collar bolt facing downward.
62. Loosen the automatic transmission flywheel hub collar bolt (1).
63. Unclip the wiring harness from engine and reposition it to the
driveline.


Important: The weight of the engine should never be supported by J 42203.

64. Install J 42203 to the close-out panel flange.



65. Vehicles equipped with a manual transmission need to:
A) Unclip the clutch actuator hose from the engine flywheel housing
clip.
B) Using J 36221 , depress the white circular release ring on the actuator hose and simultaneously pull lightly on the master cylinder hose to disconnect.
C) Protect both ends from dirt and damage.
D) Remove the engine flywheel housing bolts from the driveline support assembly.




Important: The weight of the engine should never be supported by J 42203.
66. Install J 42203 to the close-out panel flange.
67. Slowly lower the vehicle to the J 39580 and J 39580-500 .
68. Support the engine and crossmember assembly on J 39580 and
J 39580-500 .
69. BY HAND, remove the front and rear crossmember nuts.
70. Partially raise the vehicle.
71. Remove the AIR tube bracket bolt and reposition the tube bracket
to gain access to the left rear ground strap.
72. Remove the ground strap from the rear of left cylinder head.



73. Disconnect the following electrical connectors from the back of the
engine:
A) Engine oil pressure sensor
B) Camshaft position sensor
C) Manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor
D) Knock sensor wire harness connector
E) All remaining electrical connections




74. Remove the front driveline support assembly bolts from the
driveline.


Important: Visually inspect the wiring harness detachment from the engine.

75. Insert a flat bladed screwdriver, or similar tool, between the edge of driveline support assembly and the engine flywheel housing, then pry the engine loose from the driveline.

76. Slowly pull the engine away from the propeller shaft.
77. As soon as the propeller input shaft clears the engine flywheel
housing, slowly raise the vehicle.

78. Slide the engine and crossmember assembly forward in order to
clear the propeller shaft spline.
Important: Visually inspect the wiring harness clearances while raising the vehicle.


79. Raise the vehicle completely off of the engine and crossmember
assembly.


Important: It is not necessary to open the power steering system during the engine removal procedure.

80. Remove the power steering pump pulley using J 25034-C .
81. Remove the power steering pump bolts.
82. Remove the power steering pump and reservoir from the engine and
reposition them to the crossmember.
83. Remove the air conditioning (AC) compressor belt.
84. Remove the air conditioning compressor bolts and nut.
85. Remove the air conditioning compressor stud and compressor from
the engine.
86. Remove the air conditioning compressor bracket bolt and bracket.
87. Remove the AIR tube mounting bolts and tube from the exhaust
manifolds.
88. Install J 41798 to the engine.
89. Install a lifting device to the J 41798 .
90. Remove the spark plug wires from the spark plugs.
91. Remove the spark plugs from the cylinder heads.



92. Remove the engine mount to crossmember nuts.
93. Remove the engine from the crossmember, using J 41798 .
94. Install the engine onto an engine stand and Remove the J 41798 .
95. Prepare the engine for disassembly.

Installation Procedure

Important
The steps in the following procedure are in a specific order. Follow these steps in this order and ignore no details.


INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS

Prepare the engine for installation.

Install J 41798 to the engine.
Install a lifting device to the J 41798 .
Install the engine to the crossmember.
Notice: Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.

Install the crossmember nuts to the engine mount.

Tighten
Tighten the engine mount nuts to 54 N·m (40 lb ft).

Install the spark plugs to the cylinder heads. Refer to Spark Plug Replacement .
Install the spark plug wires to the spark plugs.
Install the AIR pipe and mounting bolts to the exhaust manifolds.

Tighten
Tighten the AIR pipe to 20 N·m (15 lb ft).

Install the AC compressor bracket and bolt to the engine.

Tighten
Tighten the AC compressor bracket bolts to 50 N·m (37 lb ft).

Install the AC compressor mounting stud to the engine.

Tighten
Tighten the AC compressor mounting stud to 9 N·m (80 in ft).

Install the AC compressor to the AC bracket. Refer to Compressor Replacement in HVAC.
Install the AC compressor belt. Refer to Drive Belt Replacement .
Install the PS pump and reservoir to the engine.
Install the PS pump mounting bolts.

Tighten
Tighten the PS pump mounting bolts to 25 N·m (18 lb ft).

Install the PS pump pulley to the pump using J 25033-C .



From the new engine, remove the generator mounting bolts.
Remove the generator.
Remove the generator mounting bracket bolt and bracket.
Roll the engine and crossmember assembly underneath the vehicle.
Partially lower the vehicle to the engine and crossmember assembly.
Install the ground strap to the rear of the left cylinder head.

Tighten
Tighten the ground strap bolt to 32 N·m (24 lb ft).

Install the AIR tube bracket bolt and the bracket.



Route the electrical harnesses and connect the following electrical connectors at the rear of the engine:
Engine oil pressure sensor
Camshaft position sensor
MAP sensor
Knock sensor wire harness connector
All remaining electrical connections at the rear of the engine




Vehicles equipped with a manual transmission, slide the engine and crossmember assembly rearward. Do not force the engine onto the propeller spline.
Position the engine to the proper height and angle in order to install the propeller input shaft.
Insert the propeller input shaft into the clutch driven plate hub while maintaining the proper angle, Do Not Force. Rotate the shaft slightly to bring the two splines into alignment, if necessary.



Slowly seat the engine flywheel housing to the driveline.
Install the front driveline support bolts.

Tighten
Tighten the engine flywheel housing to the driveline support assembly bolts to 50 N·m (37 lb ft).

Clip the clutch actuator hose to the engine flywheel housing clip.
Connect the master cylinder hose to the clutch acuator hose.



Important: Do not tighten the flywheel hub collar bolt at this time.


Vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission, slide the engine and crossmember assembly rearward. Do not force the engine onto the propeller spline.
Position the engine to the proper height and angle in order to install the propeller input shaft.
Install the front driveline support bolts.

Tighten
Tighten the engine flywheel housing to the driveline support assembly bolts to 50 N·m (37 lb ft).

Hand tighten the flywheel hub collar bolt.
Install the AIR tube bracket and mounting bolts to the left cylinder head.

Tighten
Tighten the AIR tube to 50 N·m (37 lb ft).

Lower the vehicle onto the crossmember and align the dowels.
Important: Use only hand tools when tightening or torquing crossmember nuts.


By HAND, install new crossmember nuts.

Tighten
Tighten the crossmember nuts to 110 N·m (81 lb ft).

Raise the vehicle.
Clip the wiring harness to the rear of the engine.
Remove J 42203 from the vehicle.



Vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission, remove the previously installed M10-1.5 x 55mm bolts from the front of the driveline support assembly.
Install two plugs in the driveline support assembly.

Tighten
Tighten the plugs to 50 N·m (37 lb ft).





Connect the automatic transmission cooler pipes at the engine flywheel housing junction (if equipped).

Tighten
Tighten the automatic transmission cooler pipes to 27 N·m (20 lb ft).

Connect the automatic transmission cooler pipes to the front and the rear of the oil pan (if equipped). Refer to Oil Cooler Line Replacement in Automatic Transmissions.



Install the front transverse leaf spring. Refer to Front Transverse Spring Replacement in Front Suspension.



Install the shock absorber lower mounting bolts.

Tighten
Tighten the shock absorber lower mounting bolts to 28 N·m (21 lb ft).

Install the ABS electrical connector clips to the crossmember.
Install the EVO electrical connector clips to the crossmember.
Install RTD electrical connector clips to the crossmember (if equipped).



Remove J 33432-A from the spring.
Install the radiator. Refer to Radiator Replacement in Engine Cooling.



Install the electric cooling fan assembly to the radiator by sliding the whole unit into the slots provided.



Connect the electrical connectors and harness to the electric cooling fans.



Install the front stabilizer shaft to the lower control arms. Refer to Stabilizer Shaft Replacement in Front Suspension.
Install the wiring harness ground wires to the left side of the engine.



Connect the left front HO2S sensor connector.
Connect the engine oil temperature sensor connector.



Install the AC compressor hose assembly to the compressor.
Install the AC compressor line retaining bolt.

Tighten
Tighten the AC compressor hose mounting bolts to 35 N·m (26 lb ft).





Connect the right front HO2S sensor connector.
Connect the crank position sensor connector.
Connect the oil level sensor connector.
Install the wiring harness ground wires to the right side of the engine block.



Install the starter. Refer to Starter Motor Replacement in Engine Electrical.



Install the driveline close-out panel.
Install the driveline close-out panel bolts.

Tighten
Tighten the close-out panel bolts to 12 N·m (106 lb in).

Install the intermediate exhaust pipe and hangers. Refer to Intermediate Pipe Replacement in Engine Exhaust.
Install the HO2S sensors and clip harness.
Install the front tire and wheel assemblies.

Tighten
Tighten the wheel nuts to 140 N·m (100 lb ft).

Lower the vehicle.



Connect the automatic transmission cooler pipes to the radiator (if equipped). Refer to Fastener Tightening Specifications in Automatic Transmission.



Connect the AIR hose to the left exhaust manifold.



Connect the intermediate steering shaft to the steering gear.
Install the intermediate steering shaft bolt.

Tighten
Tighten the intermediate steering shaft bolt to 48 N·m (35 lb ft).





Connect the brake booster vacuum hose to the brake booster.



Install the generator mounting bracket.
Install the generator mounting bracket bolt.

Tighten
Tighten the generator mounting bracket bolt to 50 N·m (37 lb ft).

Install the generator.
Install the generator mounting bolts.

Tighten
Tighten the generator mounting bolts to 50 N·m (37 lb ft).





Connect the generator electrical connectors.

Tighten
Tighten the nuts to 13 N·m (10 lb ft).





Connect the following electrical connectors from the top of the engine:
Fuel injectors
Ignition coil main connectors
EVAP solenoid
Electric throttle motor
Throttle position sensor
ECT sensor
AC compressor




Connect the heater hoses to the water pump.



Connect the radiator hoses to the water pump.



Connect the fuel line to the fuel rail (1).



Install the fuel rail covers.



Install the accessory drive belt (5).



Install the Electronic Brake Control Module/Break Pressure Modulator Valve (EBTCM/BPMV) and bracket (1). Refer to Brake Pressure Modulator Valve (BPMV) Bracket Replacement in Antilock Brake System.
Install the top radiator hose.
Install the upper radiator support .



Reposition the air intake duct and the air cleaner assembly.



Connect the IAT sensor connector.
Connect the MAF sensor connector.



Connect the negative battery cable.

Tighten
Tighten the negative battery cable bolt to 15 N·m (11 lb ft).

Fill or top off the engine with oil.
Refill the cooling system. Refer to Draining and Filling Cooling System In Engine Cooling.
Recharge the AC system. Refer to Refrigerant Recovery and Recharging in HVAC.
Program the Transmitters. Refer to Transmitter Programming/Synchronization in Keyless Entry.
Check and fill the transmission fluid.



With automatic transmission vehicles use the following steps:
Start the engine and warm to operating temperature. Idle or for at least 10 minutes.
Shut off the engine.
Allow engine to cool to room temperature.
Raise the vehicle.
Tighten the hub collar bolt (1).

Tighten
Tighten the flywheel hub collar bolt to 130 N·m (96 lb ft).

Install the engine flywheel housing inspection plug.
Check the engine for problems. Refer to Engine Set-Up and Testing .
Perform a wheel alignment. Refer to Measuring Wheel Alignment in Wheel Alignment.

kirbyloid

What do you need I have service manuals and other related materials and could loan to you for reference, if you will tell me before 6am est I will take what you want with me this morning and overnight saturday delivery as my donation to help.

SideStep

You can pull the motor out the top... several members have... It is easier if you pull heads first and of course get the hood off the car...

SPD KILZ

Could you look into your manual and see if they have the motor comming out of the top of the car if the motor is comming out of the bottom?

Im really tryning to find a manual that the motor comes out of the top, not lifted off! Thanks man I really appreciate it! Let me know!

kirbyloid

I left them at home so can look as soon as I get home. Hoever I have seen several and all were brought out the top.

SPD KILZ

Awesome Ill pm you my address incase you do find instrustions to pull from the top.