Corvette Forum  


Go Back   Corvette Forum > C5 Corvettes, 1997 - 2004 > C5 Scan & Tune
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Register Vendors Buy a Vette Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ PhotosGarage

C5 Scan & Tune
Corvette Onboard Diagnostics, Service Advice, Dyno Tuning, Fuel Management, Tuning Software, LS1 Edit, AutoTap, Diablo

Corvette Store
 
 
C6 Parts & Accessories
C5 Parts & Accessories
Wheels & Tires
Sponsored Ads
 
 
Vendor Directory
 
Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-18-2007, 10:57 AM   #1
wineO
Junior Member
 
Member Since: Jan 2007
Default Vette Doctors question

I am overseas and i have been doing a lot of research on this forum and others about mail order tunes, there seems to be a lot of different tuners offering tunes at different prices. I would like to know if these Vette Doctors do mail order tunes because from what i have read they are a top notch shop with many happy customers.


Carl

Last edited by wineO; 02-18-2007 at 10:59 AM.
wineO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2007, 11:50 AM   #2
Max@Cartek
Supporting Vendor
 
Max@Cartek's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2007
Location: Cranford NJ
Default

http://www.thevettedoctors.com/
It doesn't mention anything about mail order tune on their site. Best thing to do is contact them directly.

Here's their email:
vettedrs@aol.com

Phone number:
(631) 841-0779
Max@Cartek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2007, 12:00 PM   #3
mowton
CF Senior Member
 
mowton's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2004
Default

I have not seen any advertising nor discussions offering this service. I believe they much rather see, feel and drive the car to make sure all is well. If you live somewhere really far from a professional Tuner ( like you ) I would say maybe it is your only choice.

I know the prices vary, some high some low, but I am not sure why. Most of the times, the mail order tunes are developed based on information, results and tweaks as a result of doing many "similar" setups. In the business world we call that Research and Development. That is normally amortized into the cost of the product and at some point you re-coup all (or most) your Non-recurring costs. That's when you normally "pass the savings on to your customers". I also realize they have costs associated with keeping up with the latest electronics and gadgets. Maybe some play too much in the future and don't let the Legacy items stay the course as the saying goes. To that, you will continue to amass large Development costs, and never be done.

As I am not a Tuner, I do not know intimately how the pricing is established. But, I would think that a hands on tune would cost more than a mail order tune. The beauty of today is we have the Internet and Forums to develop out own decisions on what is right or wrong for each individual and where to get the best product for the best price.

Hope that helps

Ed
mowton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2007, 12:08 PM   #4
Max@Cartek
Supporting Vendor
 
Max@Cartek's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2007
Location: Cranford NJ
Default

The correct way to do mail order tunes are much more time consuming than regular tunes. Just to point out some of the things involved, you would need your own wideband, and some software to data log. Data is reviewed here and then the file is sent out. The process is repeated. It's very time consuming and you are depending on someone else's eyes, ears, and hands.

There are some easier things to set such as playing around with the TM. That wouldn't be so difficult. It all depends on the level of mods you have.
Max@Cartek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2007, 12:22 PM   #5
mowton
CF Senior Member
 
mowton's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2004
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Max@Cartek View Post
The correct way to do mail order tunes are much more time consuming than regular tunes. Just to point out some of the things involved, you would need your own wideband, and some software to data log. Data is reviewed here and then the file is sent out. The process is repeated. It's very time consuming and you are depending on someone else's eyes, ears, and hands.

There are some easier things to set such as playing around with the TM. That wouldn't be so difficult. It all depends on the level of mods you have.
I don't get the impression that that is the way it is being advertised by some. To me, and I could be wrong, most look like you send your PCM with a list of mods and you get it back. If someone has access, or even the knowledge of widebands etc, I might assume (I know!) he would be doing his own tuning or have someone closer doing it for him. One on the forum does offer the file, but I don't think the others do.
mowton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2007, 12:49 PM   #6
Max@Cartek
Supporting Vendor
 
Max@Cartek's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2007
Location: Cranford NJ
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mowton View Post
I don't get the impression that that is the way it is being advertised by some. To me, and I could be wrong, most look like you send your PCM with a list of mods and you get it back. If someone has access, or even the knowledge of widebands etc, I might assume (I know!) he would be doing his own tuning or have someone closer doing it for him. One on the forum does offer the file, but I don't think the others do.

It's not done this way by some. But this is the right way to do it to get the most out of the tune.

The other way is just tuning by guestimation (not a real word, I know ).
It can have some gains, but is definitely not the best way.

Having the car tuned by someone local is always the best way to go... if they are knowledgeable that is.
Max@Cartek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2007, 09:04 AM   #7
wineO
Junior Member
 
Member Since: Jan 2007
Default

Well here in Saudi Arabia i do not think there are many tuners so i am limited to my choices. I think i will have no choice but to do a mail in tune.




Carl
wineO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2007, 10:45 AM   #8
FRCTony
CF Senior Member
 
FRCTony's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2005
Location: Northern VA
Default

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1618197

I don't see how you can go wrong here...
FRCTony is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2007, 11:15 AM   #9
mowton
CF Senior Member
 
mowton's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2004
Default

Less than a tank of gas......oh wait, I see you are in Saudi Arabia, what is it $0.10 a gallon
mowton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2007, 11:35 AM   #10
wineO
Junior Member
 
Member Since: Jan 2007
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mowton View Post
Less than a tank of gas......oh wait, I see you are in Saudi Arabia, what is it $0.10 a gallon
Hi mowton nice to meet you here on the forum we are paying 91 cents here for regular and about $1.13 for super i have attached a link for you to see gas prices in some countries enjoy

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...ces/price.html

Carl

Last edited by wineO; 02-19-2007 at 11:44 AM.
wineO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2007, 04:56 PM   #11
rustyguns
CF Senior Member
 
rustyguns's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2006
Location: Phoenix Arizona
Send a message via Yahoo to rustyguns
Default gas 0.14/gallon

WOW!!!!!!!!!!! VENZUELA!! 0.14 GALLON FOR GAS !!!!! WOOHOO!!!

of course their President runs the place with a comunist type economy

so you can't get rich there... but u drive cheap! hahahahaha
rustyguns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2007, 04:56 PM
 
Go Back   Corvette Forum > C5 Corvettes, 1997 - 2004 > C5 Scan & Tune
Reload this Page Vette Doctors question
 
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Click for Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Englishtown Corvette Challenge Cruise 4/2/05-- Vette Doctors Pro 8 Shootout mowton Northeast 23 04-02-2005 04:01 PM
Vette Doctors LAYNLOW C5 Tech 45 12-22-2004 08:35 AM
Vette Doctors finish BlackMax's 418 Z06 - 578RWHP 514RWTQ - Dyno Sheet boweryboy C5 Tech 44 05-11-2004 07:28 PM
New Personal best for me in my Vette Doctors REDGAR package cam car REDGAR Drag Racing 57 05-01-2003 03:36 PM
Vette Doctors+Cerra Racing= Stage II Turbo 02 EB Z06 ATMER1 C5 Tech 60 12-20-2002 11:37 PM
Vette Doctors+ATI= 540 RWHP 02 EB Z06 ATMER1 C5 Forced Induction/Nitrous 29 04-02-2002 12:16 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.1 PL1
Emails & Password Backup