Tuning Tool Prices

[5 Liter Eater]

HP Tuners is $499 for two vehicle model years. What does the enhanced IO interface buy me? This is the tool that I'm leaning towards. http://www.hptuners.com/order.php EFI LIive FlashScan Personal Scan & Tune Tool is $699 for two VINs. Am I reading the pricing guide right? I thought it was in line with HP Tuners pricing (~$500). The benefit I see here is the black box fuinctionality. https://store.efilive.com/index.asp?...ATS&Category=1 Tuner Cat is reported to be $379 when it is available. It may be now by calling them but it's not on the web site yet. You get a different number of vehicles to play with depending on your model year. The interface is reported to be not as intuative as EFILIVE or HP Tuners. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...cat&forum_id=1 Do I have all this right?

[5 Liter Eater]

Found this on the HP Tuner forum RE: the enhanced IO interface...

What does the Enhnaced IO interface allow me to do?
With our EIO interface, you can use 0-5v signals from various sensors such as EGT, Wide Band, fuel pressure and others for sensor input in our scanner. You will have real time data from those sensors right next to your standard scan tool data such as TPS, RPM, MPH, etc.

So you need to pay another $150 to do wide band O2 tuning with HP Tuners whereas you can do this out of the box with EFI Live which puts the prices more in line with each other. I doubt that Tuner Cat will do wide band tuning at all.

[TXNC5]

That about sums it up. Of course, the old standard LS1Edit is out there as well.

My ranking:

EFILive, HPT, and after that it doesn't matter.

With both TunerCat and LS1Edit, you will want to buy a good scanner. That will set you back at least $200.

I am very familiar with LS1Edit, and have had success using it over the years. My biggest complaint would be that they are virtually invisible on the internet. The only communication you see from them is on the LS1Edit mail list, and my estimation is that half of their communications are resolving hardware/software conflicts with their product.

I have limited use with HPT, but it is certainly a very robust product. I think they have put together the best technical manual regarding all the tables and parameters. I think EFILive has put together the two best User manuals for their products. I find TunerCat to be very hard to navigate for two reasons: 1) the interface is poorly designed, 2) I find the groupings of data to be somewhat illogical (e.g. all DTC's are not listed in one place).

Just my $.02