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Old 12-25-2022, 07:52 AM
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I'll also add that C5Zs with a CAI only are running mid 11s around 120 as well.
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The C5 will beat up on most older cars stock for stock as it should. Numbers are just numbers though,
how does the car make you feel when you look at it and how much fun do YOU have driving it aren’t defined by 0-60 in 2.8 vs 5.0 anything that breaks into the 12s is silly quick for a street car and unless it’s AWD or mid engined it’s a handful to drive.


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Old 12-25-2022, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Vette-kid
I'll also add that C5Zs with a CAI only are running mid 11s around 120 as well.
No intent to Hi-Jack (but I am) but I always hear that CAI on a Z06 is pretty much "snake oil" as the factory air filter is pretty good.

WAY too many YT videos to sort through as I always wonder what is legit and what is sponsored reviews.
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Originally Posted by billschroeder5842
No intent to Hi-Jack (but I am) but I always hear that CAI on a Z06 is pretty much "snake oil" as the factory air filter is pretty good.

WAY too many YT videos to sort through as I always wonder what is legit and what is sponsored reviews.
The '02-'04 OEM Z06 filter housing lid is somewhat better than the '01. Both are better than the base model. Neither are as good as a Blackwing, Vararam, Vortex, Callaway Honker, etc.......

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Old 12-25-2022, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LTC Z06
I had a friend with a '70 Chevelle that was faster, and all he had to do was turn a 454 into a 496, move it backward 4 inches, redo the entire firewall, run a spool with 4.55s and it would do 10.9 in the 1/4 all day.
Why do I have a feeling that there are some drag slicks included as well..
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Originally Posted by walleyejack
Not understanding how you can compare cars 30 yrs apart... make 0 sense.
You cant compare. I have a early 66 with
450hp. When it was new it was the cats meow.
Even though tire sizes were very limited. The C5
with much better and bigger tires is a rocket ship.
Although ,when I stop for fuel the 66 gets alot of attention
the 2000 gets some eyes as well. Both C1 and 2 and C5
are now old cars.
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Originally Posted by billschroeder5842
I appreciate the theoretical debate, but it really is unfair. The C5 will "win" on almost any comparison. After all you are dealing with 50ish years of advanced technology.

Now, not mentioned was any Mopars. I'd take my old 440 '69 Charger or 383 '71 Roadrunner in a heart beat over my 04 Z06 CE. The cool factor is undeniable.
Having had several roadrunners (3 69s)and gtx's (69, 70, and 71) back in the day ( in fact, traded a 69 roadrunner for my first Vette, a 93), it's apples and oranges. My C5 Z06 beats them all in everything except one thing:. Nothing like the sound of all four barrels opening up when you floored the gas pedal. BWAAWWHHOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!!! And they were cool! Wish I had another one.
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Old 12-26-2022, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LTC Z06
I had a friend with a '70 Chevelle that was faster, and all he had to do was turn a 454 into a 496, move it backward 4 inches, redo the entire firewall, run a spool with 4.55s and it would do 10.9 in the 1/4 all day.
It took this to get to about 400 wheel hp. It's a mountain! No! It's a motor! This car was never to the track but I bet it wouldn't break 12.0. Slicked up, all dialed in, the old cars would go 11s maybe. Now you have bone stock showroom cars going 9s (?).

Funny story about the MSD box on this car. I told my painter I wanted the box blacked out. Well, he masked off the little bits and such and made it look really great. It wasn't what I asked for though. I wanted it painted over as if to hide it. Not glorify it. Anyway, I may have the only Black MSD 6AL in existence! The car ran really good with a 5 speed Keisler trans in it. 3.73s.

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Originally Posted by grinder11
The '02-'04 OEM Z06 filter housing lid is somewhat better than the '01. Both are better than the base model. Neither are as good as a Blackwing, Vararam, Vortex, Callaway Honker, etc.......
Not based on CFM. The Z06 with a Wix filter bench flowed 1000ish CFM, AND filtered at the top along with Purolator. So there, lol

Having owned a “late model” ‘58 Vette and various BBC muscle cars, there was nothing that could walk a C5, stock for stock. The C5 performs better in every measurable way. That said, I love those cars and wish I still had them. They were fast, comfy, and looked wicked. A teenager could buy a nice used muscle car and mod it with very little guidance. Set up right, they could definitely do some G force and put down comparable strip times. Good times. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
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I also have an 81 along with my C5. That old car is a hoot to drive. Rumbly, and crude but feels faster then it is. Done some stuff to it so its decently fast and really does get the attention. Kinda like those Cobra kit cars - fun to drive in a limited capacity. I inherited a 65 mustang GT and that thing with no power brakes or steering was just awful to drive. It got the attention at car shows, but man, once you got behind the wheel the fun went away. My 81 was faster as my C5 is faster then my 81. Time marches on as they say, but those old muscle cars are cool to look at!
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I've attended MANY pure stock drags at the Mid-Michigan Motorplex.

A "stock" (wink wink but... they are fairly close to stock) 396 SS runs about a 13 flat. A non-LS6 454 SS runs high 12s. The LS6 SS Chevelle is strong and runs mid-high 12s.
Keep in mind that is in the fall, very well prepped track, and polyglass tires that are for some strange reason very sticky

IMO a similarly "stock" C5 Z06 (like mine) on the same track and at the same time and also having strangely sticky tires would run a low to mid 12. If caught out on the street.. Z06 (if launched adequately) would walk away from a stock / near stock (with stock tire) BB Chevelle.

btw, the L88 vette and the 69 copo Camaro were simply awesome to watch.

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My 68 Chevelle with 383, automatic and 373 gears runs mid 12 in the quarter mile with ET streets. My 03 Z06 with a few mods is quicker, handles and brakes better. But, the Chevelle is more fun to drive, gets loads of attention and sounds better (a cam change would make the Z06 equal there). All matter of preference.



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