JMG2

I realize that while I've had the recall on my '00, I ever did the lmc5. I don't have any issues, figure this is so simple may as well do it.
I *thought* I saw a recent post somewhere about an updated version.
anyway, if someone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.

dbgoodwin

Directly from compliance parts

Vetteman Jack

Richard will take care of you.

jackthelad

If you can twist the steering wheel with the key out of the ignition, your recall is up to date, and the column cannot lock as the mechanism has been removed. If it is locked when the key out, it could still cause an unwanted lock.

MWWarlord

you may or may not need to do the brown wire mod as well. There were several different "solutions" to this issue that GM tried. One of them was to completely remove the lock pin. If this was done, there is no need for an LMC5, as it is literally impossible for the column to lock. As Jack mentioned, you can do the twist test with the key out. Unless the pin was removed, you definitely want an LMC5.

JMG2

I ordered it a week ago, just waiting on it.
I have no idea if the pin was removed... I know I brought it in for the receall whenever it was issued, but can't remember what they did on it. If the pin was removed, I don't see how installing lmc5 is going to hurt, so I may as well do it anyway.
What is the brown wire mod?

tikiman

Very interested in this as well. I did the LMC5 mod many, many years ago, but never did the brown wire mod (perhaps it wasn't available way back then). I still occasionally get the Pull Key message so am very interested in the brown wire mod.

JMG2

ok, so I tried the wheel with the key not in the ignition, and it turns freely. I assume I no longer have the col. lock, and the lmc5 isn't necessary?

Johnny Hardcore

Inacurate information in recommendations above. Even if you've had all the dealer recalls completed, including the locking plate removal you can and will (with a low battery) get the "pull key wait 10 seconds" issue and the car will go into limp mode and shutoff off over 2mph.

The LMC5 with the brown wire mod will stop this from happening. You can of course have the 2mph cutoff tuned out but the LMC5 is cheap and 20 minutes DIY.

23+ yrs of MN6 original ownership. All recalls done by GM including the locking plate removed. 16 years later with a low battery I got the pull key and 2mph limp mode.

My wheel didn't lock but it didn't matter with the car shutting off over 2mph.

Johnny Hardcore

The brown wire mod on the LMC5 is what you need to fix rhis. The LMC5 fix alone without the extra step (BWM) will continue to allow the limp mode to occur.

The directions on the later kits state to forego the BWM if the standard fix solves the problem. I skipped the BWM initially and less than a month later I got the pull key/ limp issue. Installed the BWM and haven't had the issue in 7 years.

billschroeder5842

Always to the brown wire mod. As long as you are "in there" it is an extra 3 (serious, no more) minutes and you will be completely worry free.

TheAllusionist

Fantastic service from them, that is all I can say.

Tusc

Memories of my first C5 locking up only after I left the gas station on Rt15 N in north haven. No accident occurred but it skeered heck out of me going about 15 when I heard the click and 30 before I tried to change steering angle.

The now changed name/owner, formerly Valenti Chevy in Wallingford took nearly two weeks to fix it after having to order new parts after the first repair attempt, handed me the keys (allegedly tested and test driven) and as soon as I started the car the steering column sounded like a mortar and pestle grinding moderately sized rocks. Just one of a long line of service issues and outright lies which have forever burned any trust for a GM product or dealer from my soul.

Johnny Hardcore

Crap that's scary! My MN6's never locked while driving.

The first 7 years of brand new ownership I was doing a LOT of business travel and lived in condos & town houses. Both with parking buildings, no private garages...and no access to hook up a battery tender.

Every few trips I'd come home to a limp C5. Yet my 5 year old SAAB 9000 CSE always started and drove fine when I came home. I got real friendly with Bruce the service manager at Santa Monica Cheverolet. (We actually did become sparring partners boxing and kickboxing- ironically). Smoked a little of the Devil's lettuce together as well. Bruce continued to approve warranty work when the car was H/C/I. Thanks again Bruce wherever you are now!

Every recall was done by GM. This was when they were still exploring fixes for this issue. Including removing the locking plate from my MN6.

None of GMs "fixes" actually worked. If your battery goes low and you don't have an LMC5 with BWM you can continue to experience issues. Limp mode being the major issue.

Like being stuck at a friend's house 2 hours from home the Sunday before starting a new role/new job on Monday (swapped the battery but she was still stuck in limp mode). Or getting stuck at a gas station (blocking the pumps) after fueling up. Or getting stuck at the gym after tearing a rotator cuff! As if the thought of driving stick with a bum right shoulder wasn't bad enough.

OP- The LMC5 with the BWM is the only fix that TOTALLY fixed the issue. Even with a pretty low battery the car will NOT go limp nor leave you stranded.

C-5 Geek

I ordered mine through Amazon, only because if there was an issue with it returns are easier.

C-5 Geek

Funny you should say that. I bought a '99 coupe/manual last year and almost from the start I got the "Pull Key Wait 10 Sec." message. It would come and go so I lived with it. It returned a few weeks ago. Also, I noticed if I stalled the car by letting the clutch out too fast I would get the message again - pretty embarrassing if you're at a stop light and have to wait 10 secs. to start the car, and potentially unsafe. After reading about the "brown wire" mod, I went in the passenger footwell to see if any mods had been done and to my surprise an LMC5 had already been installed. However, there was no brown wire coming out of the LMC5 so there was at least one earlier version that did not include that wire. Also, the K5 relay was still installed in the car. Perhaps earlier version of the LMC5 instructions did not state to pull the relay in manual shift C5s. I ordered a new LMC5, removed the relay (no longer needed acc'd to the LMC5 instructions) and removed and replaced the older LMC5 with the newer one. Did the brown wire mod and voila' - no more "Pull Key" message.

C-5 Geek

You don't necessarily have to have a low battery condition to get the "Pull Key" message. I didn't.

Yello95

...I mostly agree especially with returns...

Johnny Hardcore

Good call. Another great reason to add the BWM step.