Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ ZP
#1
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Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ ZP
Do they no longer sell these for the C5 in stock 17" & 18" sizes? Not seeing them listed at Discount Tire anymore?
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I think they have been replaced by these:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...e&autoModClar=
I've never been disappointed in Michelin tires. The Pilot Super Sports are awesome but I think they don't make them anymore
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...e&autoModClar=
I've never been disappointed in Michelin tires. The Pilot Super Sports are awesome but I think they don't make them anymore
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The link (above) just goes to tirerack.com.
Poking around shows they now stock no runflats in stock 17/18 sizes, and only 2 (one of which is on closeout) for stock C6 18/19 sizes.
Obviously someone at the Rack has decided runflats are passe, so technically for the C5 they do not stock "full OEM spec" replacement tires as runflat is part of the original C5 tire spec.
Poking around shows they now stock no runflats in stock 17/18 sizes, and only 2 (one of which is on closeout) for stock C6 18/19 sizes.
Obviously someone at the Rack has decided runflats are passe, so technically for the C5 they do not stock "full OEM spec" replacement tires as runflat is part of the original C5 tire spec.
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The link (above) just goes to tirerack.com.
Poking around shows they now stock no runflats in stock 17/18 sizes, and only 2 (one of which is on closeout) for stock C6 18/19 sizes.
Obviously someone at the Rack has decided runflats are passe, so technically for the C5 they do not stock "full OEM spec" replacement tires as runflat is part of the original C5 tire spec.
Poking around shows they now stock no runflats in stock 17/18 sizes, and only 2 (one of which is on closeout) for stock C6 18/19 sizes.
Obviously someone at the Rack has decided runflats are passe, so technically for the C5 they do not stock "full OEM spec" replacement tires as runflat is part of the original C5 tire spec.
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Discount Tire listed just one set of 17/18 Mich A/S3+'s in ZP as of today.
End of their stock I guess. It also seems like nobody is listing the new A/S series 4's in ZP.
BTW, I'm with Vetteman above - I have the A/S3's ZP's on my C5, in the 18/19 sizes and they are just fine. The only time they intrude is over "joints" in the pavement such as when going onto or off of a bridge. And most tires don't handle that well. Even my very smooth riding Genesis objects...
End of their stock I guess. It also seems like nobody is listing the new A/S series 4's in ZP.
BTW, I'm with Vetteman above - I have the A/S3's ZP's on my C5, in the 18/19 sizes and they are just fine. The only time they intrude is over "joints" in the pavement such as when going onto or off of a bridge. And most tires don't handle that well. Even my very smooth riding Genesis objects...
Last edited by jackthelad; 08-06-2021 at 01:42 PM.
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I am still running the previous generation of Michelin A/S ZPs. Is Goodyear now the only option left for stock C5 run-flats?
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I noticed around the middle of last year, that Tire Rack no longer showed the Michelin RFs on their site. I went to the Michelin site, and noticed that they were no longer listed there, either. I currently have a set of the Michelin Pilot ZPs on my car, but even though they probably have no more than 5000 miles on them, the rears are 9 years old, and the fronts are 8. AND, even though I purchased them through a major CF sponsor, they were 2 and 3 years old, respectively, when I purchased them, and when I questioned that, I was told that it was "the best they had"....
When it appeared to me, late last year, that Michelin was no longer going to produce RFs in C-5 sizes, just for grins, I checked with a local tire chain, and they told me that they knew nothing about this, but they had a set of the Michelin RFs in stock. The date code was the last week in 2019, so I bought them. They'll be going on the car next spring, even though the current tires have a lot of life left. It appears that tires, as well as electrical components, are going to become somewhat "dear" for our "old" C-5s.....
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Which tires at 275 are just as wide looking as the Goodyears? Just can’t beat the wide stance of the F1s. The 275s look like 285s. Reason I hate to replace them with other brands 🤷🏻♂️
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Having said that, I just went down to my basement, and took some measurements. I still have my OE GoodYears, somewhat worn, mounted on the OE wheels. I use them when I park the car for the winter. I measured the rear tires across the tread, and they're a tad under 11" wide. However, my new, not yet mounted Michelins, are VERY close to the same width....
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Went through this with the pilot sports just a couple of weeks ago, nobody could get them in stock, in the stock sizes, mostly the fronts were the issue. Found and ordered a set from TireAmerica, and had them shipped to my local NTB for installation. The rears shipped immediately and together, the fronts took a couple of days, and shipped from two different locations. Eventually I did get them, but as soon as mine shipped, TireAmerica started showing the fronts as out of stock. Still not sure whether they are making them or not, but the date code on the rears are 1221 and 2620, and the fronts are 2321 and 2421. So one is a year old, and the other three were made this year.
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Just say "NO" to run flats! I ditched the run-flats on the Corvette years ago and have never regretted it. Made the mistake of putting run-flats on my BMW E91 daily driver when the run-flats that were on it when I bought it wore out and instantly regretted it. Suffered with them for almost a year and many pothole explosions before giving up and going with non-run-flats and, again, very happy with that decision. Patch kit, small air compressor, a jack, and a AAA card are my insurance. Seriously, I have not had an on-the-side-of-the-road tire problem in well over 20 years. The misery inflicted by run-flats is just not necessary.
Last Fall, I needed to replace my Michelin PS 3 All Season non-run-flats (been on since 2013 or 2014 and about 30K miles) and was having trouble finding the OEM sizes in either the 3+ or the new 4. It appeared that they were not yet out in the 4 (or perhaps never will be) and, although I did find one supplier who could sell me a full set of the OEM 3+ I decided that getting the last of the production run was not a good idea - getting replacements would be impossible so I would have to move to something else anyway. I went with the Continental Extreme Contact DWS - All-Seasons, Front: 245/45R17, Rear: 275/40R18.
Ordered from Tire Rack and had them installed by ASAP Mobile, who came right to my house. I helped them out by already having the car up on the Quick Jacks. Tires were $843.96 and the installation was $90.00. Ran those from Fall to Spring (only put about 400 miles on them) and pulled them off for my summer wheels/tires - Z06 Speedlines with Continental Extreme Contact Sport SL, Front - 275/40ZR-17, Rear - 295/35ZR-18. I expect that the All-Seasons will probably age out before the tread is worn out if I only use them Fall to Spring (although I will be retiring next year so more year-round travel may help with that).
Last Fall, I needed to replace my Michelin PS 3 All Season non-run-flats (been on since 2013 or 2014 and about 30K miles) and was having trouble finding the OEM sizes in either the 3+ or the new 4. It appeared that they were not yet out in the 4 (or perhaps never will be) and, although I did find one supplier who could sell me a full set of the OEM 3+ I decided that getting the last of the production run was not a good idea - getting replacements would be impossible so I would have to move to something else anyway. I went with the Continental Extreme Contact DWS - All-Seasons, Front: 245/45R17, Rear: 275/40R18.
Ordered from Tire Rack and had them installed by ASAP Mobile, who came right to my house. I helped them out by already having the car up on the Quick Jacks. Tires were $843.96 and the installation was $90.00. Ran those from Fall to Spring (only put about 400 miles on them) and pulled them off for my summer wheels/tires - Z06 Speedlines with Continental Extreme Contact Sport SL, Front - 275/40ZR-17, Rear - 295/35ZR-18. I expect that the All-Seasons will probably age out before the tread is worn out if I only use them Fall to Spring (although I will be retiring next year so more year-round travel may help with that).
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Here we go, the RF vs. non-RF debate, again.........
#16
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How many times? 100? 1,000?
It really depends on how you use your car. I do a lot of running on very busy interstate truck routes - I-70, I-81, and do not ever want to be stuck on the shoulder waiting to be wiped out by some sleepy long haul trucker, of which there are many - the sound of truckers running onto the rumble strips is almost continuous. Too many people have been wiped out that way. So, I have RF's which at least will get me off the highway before I call the AAA.
It really depends on how you use your car. I do a lot of running on very busy interstate truck routes - I-70, I-81, and do not ever want to be stuck on the shoulder waiting to be wiped out by some sleepy long haul trucker, of which there are many - the sound of truckers running onto the rumble strips is almost continuous. Too many people have been wiped out that way. So, I have RF's which at least will get me off the highway before I call the AAA.
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It really depends on how you use your car. I do a lot of running on very busy interstate truck routes - I-70, I-81, and do not ever want to be stuck on the shoulder waiting to be wiped out by some sleepy long haul trucker, of which there are many - the sound of truckers running onto the rumble strips is almost continuous. Too many people have been wiped out that way. So, I have RF's which at least will get me off the highway before I call the AAA.
I have never had my C5 out of town in over 20 years and it is my DD. You cannot even get up to the speed limit where I live without a pothole - in fact, I carry a map with nearly half the town highlighted out as un-driveable now. So, "performance" isn't worth the price for me anymore. Also, we have lots of hail and I have picked up numerous roofing nails in my RFs over the years.
I also have related one of my stories before where I was on my way to the hospital ER several years ago when the dash showed I had lost pressure in one tire. Fortunately, I was able to complete the trip to the ER without a delay. For me run-flats were aa major selling point to my C5 when I bought it. If it were my second "play" car or if I were going racing, that would be a different matter.
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Yes, not all circumstances or priorities are equal.
I have never had my C5 out of town in over 20 years and it is my DD. You cannot even get up to the speed limit where I live without a pothole - in fact, I carry a map with nearly half the town highlighted out as un-driveable now. So, "performance" isn't worth the price for me anymore. Also, we have lots of hail and I have picked up numerous roofing nails in my RFs over the years.
I also have related one of my stories before where I was on my way to the hospital ER several years ago when the dash showed I had lost pressure in one tire. Fortunately, I was able to complete the trip to the ER without a delay. For me run-flats were aa major selling point to my C5 when I bought it. If it were my second "play" car or if I were going racing, that would be a different matter.
I have never had my C5 out of town in over 20 years and it is my DD. You cannot even get up to the speed limit where I live without a pothole - in fact, I carry a map with nearly half the town highlighted out as un-driveable now. So, "performance" isn't worth the price for me anymore. Also, we have lots of hail and I have picked up numerous roofing nails in my RFs over the years.
I also have related one of my stories before where I was on my way to the hospital ER several years ago when the dash showed I had lost pressure in one tire. Fortunately, I was able to complete the trip to the ER without a delay. For me run-flats were aa major selling point to my C5 when I bought it. If it were my second "play" car or if I were going racing, that would be a different matter.
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Looks like they ARE STILL AVAILABLE.
I was looking at the Title Description at Discount Tire and did not see the "ZP" designation (that used to show up there); however, on closer examination I saw that they had the 3rd blue (Run Flat) icon under the title and "RF" added after the sizes shown. So I went to the local Discount Tire and they said "Sure, we can get them". Had them here three days later and they all have the Date Code of 29/21 - so fresh off the press. Now if they just do not destroy my wheels mounting them tomorrow!
I was looking at the Title Description at Discount Tire and did not see the "ZP" designation (that used to show up there); however, on closer examination I saw that they had the 3rd blue (Run Flat) icon under the title and "RF" added after the sizes shown. So I went to the local Discount Tire and they said "Sure, we can get them". Had them here three days later and they all have the Date Code of 29/21 - so fresh off the press. Now if they just do not destroy my wheels mounting them tomorrow!
Last edited by Choreo; 08-24-2021 at 07:16 PM.
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Looks like they ARE STILL AVAILABLE.
I was looking at the Title Description at Discount Tire and did not see the "ZP" designation (that used to show up there); however, on closer examination I saw that they had the 3rd blue (Run Flat) icon under the title and "RF" added after the sizes shown. So I went to the local Discount Tire and they said "Sure, we can get them". Had them here three days later and they all have the Date Code of 29/21 - so fresh off the press. Now if they just do not destroy my wheels mounting them tomorrow!
I was looking at the Title Description at Discount Tire and did not see the "ZP" designation (that used to show up there); however, on closer examination I saw that they had the 3rd blue (Run Flat) icon under the title and "RF" added after the sizes shown. So I went to the local Discount Tire and they said "Sure, we can get them". Had them here three days later and they all have the Date Code of 29/21 - so fresh off the press. Now if they just do not destroy my wheels mounting them tomorrow!
Would be interesting to know why Tire Rack has stopped selling them....
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