QCKSLVR

As a 19-year Corvette original owner, I have seen hundreds of ads and auction postings that tout “matching numbers” as the be-all and end-all in the valuation of a resale. While I don’t doubt the value of originality, I do question if “matching numbers” is not largely overplayed. Our cars have been designed and built to be driven at the limits. They are mechanical, and eventually something is likely to give out. If that something happens to be a con rod through the side of the block, as an example, you’re going to be in for a replacement engine. Should that REALLY reduce the value or desirability of your car to such a great extent? Also, just what constitutes the “matching numbers” claim anyway? Is it ONLY the original engine, or are there other parameters that can be applied in selecting a replacement engine, for example, that can still legitimately make the claim that it’s a “matching numbers” vehicle? I’m happy to say that my ‘01 ‘vert is still on its original engine, so I don’t have any axe to grind here. As an enthusiast, I’m really just curious.

rrwirsi

The value of a car is wholly dependent on the buyer. Personally, I would not want to buy any car that had an engine replaced that was not done via a Chev warranty, Engine failure could be a sign of mistreatment of the car. JMHO.

DDaaryl

I personally purchased a 1969 Corvette 427 coupe for a good price. After I got it home I traced the engine number and found it was a GM crate motor designed to be installed in a truck. The engine looked the same but likely had the wrong cam and compression to be like the original 390 horsepower version. Lesson learned about matching numbers. Many Corvettes that had bad motors were found with recycled motors from other cars and trucks with less performance.

glbeauchamp

Matching numbers, low miles, one owner, rare color, etc, etc. Whatever the buyer is looking for and id willing to pay for..

JALLEN4

The first condition to meet is condition and cleanliness. The second condition is going to be originality, and the third is mileage. All cars fall into those conditions and especially so with enthusiast cars. Every buyer would desire to have a perfect car with those conditions met and everything that does not match up is going to lower the value. It has been that way since the first used car was sold.

Mr. Black

C5 Corvettes are in no way shape or form collectible enough for it to be a deal breaker for me.

That being said, I'm not into "stock cars" so there's that.

bjones7131

IF you are into the NCRS world and have your car judged they look at every number on every component and if it doesn't match they deduct points. There are companies out there that rebuild just about everything so you keep the original lets say an AC compressor that has gone south but have it rebuilt instead of buying new. That way you still have the orig. eqp. and all number matching if it has a number. NCRS is a bunch of hooey to me but to each his own.

Phanni

A matching numbers car has certain parts that are stamped with VIN numbers on major components. Engine, Tranny etc. An "all original numbers matching car has these numbers on these components. Collectable cars such as the early Corvettes are valued considerable higher, if these numbers match. In the cases of C-4 and up, it means little. Some day it may be important, howevegines today are much more reliable, and likely have not been replaced In the majority of later cars.

msandym

Matching numbers mean all stuff , block , heads , manifold , etc came with the car . It more critical value wise on C1 , C2 , C3 I think . I bought C3 advertised as numbers matching but there were older hump heads , edelbrock manifold and carburetor . Kinda desirable stuff but certainly not a numbers matching car .

gimp

Since this is the C5 forum, I will say that I think only a stickler willing to talk themselves out of a good deal cares about matching numbers on a C5. I could not care less as long as the install was done properly and there are no issues. A better engine, trans, diff, etc, is a significant advantage (and generally sells for a significant premium) over a stock engine; and a new engine is - usually - better than the original engine, because that means more miles you can put on it.

Collectibles are a different matter because the price of the product is divorced from the function of the product.

o2bnkc

To answer your original question, to me "matching numbers" means the original engine and drive train. Even the original engine, for me would suffice. The engine is the main thing.

Jistari

Absolutely matters when you are speaking of models through C3 these are bought for nostalgic reasons as we all know they dont perform near as well as later models...... C5, nope......wouldnt matter as much (aside from buying one knowing that the block has been replaced).

Coronette

Excellent points.

ChiliPepperGarage

On an L88 car it can mean hundreds of thousands in value. In a C5, not so much.

Personally, I'd rather save a bunch of money and have a NOM car that I can use and enjoy instead of worrying about all the time.

redzg

But how far do matching numbers go? Do I have to have the original heads? How about the crank? Pistons? Original number block is not terribly indicative of an original motor.

thatcorvetteguy

I like it. BB, A/C car

cdee63

It is the part that counts though. Like mentioned it is much more important in older cars. I helped a friend restore an "ugly duckling" '73 Chevelle SS 454 4 speed car, I believe 609 were built that way. The fact the block, trans and chassis had matching numbers increased the value of the car in the eyes of the resto crowd 3 fold.

Fcar 98

I would say it doesn't mean as much now as it once did. To watch these TV auctions. Most restored cars that have new LSX motors put in are bringing big money. Makes the car more drivable. Collectors i would say would be more picky

jackthelad

Two ends of the spectrum - one end, an all original vehicle, where any failing part like an alternator has been rebuilt, or if replaced, the originals "come with", and the other end where someone bought a low spec car and made it into a high spec rarity, and tries to pass it off as such.

vetteLT193

My 66 had its matching numbers engine... literally the block was stamped with the same ending numbers as the VIN tag. That is generally what it means. Does it matter? Maybe. My 66 also had original glass. Original interior, etc. I bought it because that matching numbers engine sat next to it on an engine stand... a 1995 LT1 was in its place and it ran fantastic.

Why would matching numbers (and all the other original parts) matter? Well... it is practically proof of a non abused well maintained ride. If it isn't faked anyway.