Worth fighting?
03-19-2014, 01:05 PM
#21
Le Mans Master
03-19-2014, 01:08 PM
#22
Le Mans Master
03-19-2014, 01:10 PM
#23
Le Mans Master
03-19-2014, 01:13 PM
#24
Race Director
It depends on the nature of the call. Having someone blatantly breaking the law in the immediate vicinity could have been a higher priority.
Last edited by Corvette_Ed; 03-19-2014 at 01:28 PM.
03-19-2014, 01:15 PM
#25
Race Director
03-19-2014, 01:20 PM
#26
Le Mans Master
Imagine you are a cop and get a call for a non life threatening situation so you kick it up to 80. A rocket scientist in a Vette speeds up too and is right on your ***. Stopping and giving the guy a ticket would be the most sensible and logical thing to do. It never ceases to amaze me how cops get blamed for just doing their job. Most cops are not jerks. 99.9% of the time those that get tickets deserve them. I have gotten two tickets in my life, deserved them both. I have been let off more times than I can count when I did deserve a ticket. I was stopped 4 times in my C3 and never got a ticket even though I was well over the limit every time.
Last edited by JR-01; 03-19-2014 at 01:22 PM.
03-19-2014, 01:32 PM
#27
Drifting
After meeting many of the LE types in New Orleans after Katrina, I refuse to push the limits of my freedom as a citizen because I can wind up dead. The headline would read "Cop shoots crazed man after confrontation..." and the ensuing investigation will often find him innocent unless there is video proof showing otherwise.
Just sayin.
03-19-2014, 01:39 PM
#28
Pro
03-19-2014, 01:43 PM
#29
Drifting
03-19-2014, 01:48 PM
#30
Melting Slicks
I would have to agree with most here that you probably won't win.
But.... since you haven't fought a ticket yet, I'd say go for it! I think you have a plausible defense.
But.... since you haven't fought a ticket yet, I'd say go for it! I think you have a plausible defense.
03-19-2014, 02:01 PM
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Melting Slicks
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Cannot.claim entrapment as you had a choice to do what you did. Entrapment is when you had no other choice but to do what you did.
Using the "but he was doing it too" defense will not work. You knew what you were doing was wrong. take accountability for your actions
Using the "but he was doing it too" defense will not work. You knew what you were doing was wrong. take accountability for your actions
03-19-2014, 02:02 PM
#32
Le Mans Master
03-19-2014, 02:03 PM
#33
Le Mans Master
It's easier to blame the cop.
03-19-2014, 02:19 PM
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Law enforcement topics on this forum usually go south very quickly. If you feel the ticket is unfair or improper, go to court and explain the circumstances to the judge. Let him/her make a decision. You're going to get about as many opinions here on a ticket as you would if you asked about the best car wax or motor oil. 
03-19-2014, 02:37 PM
#35
Burning Brakes
I'm guessing you never had this conversation with your parents:
Dad: Why'd you do that?
Me: I wanted to.
Dad: Why? What were you thinking?
Me: Well, one of the other guys was doing it too, so I thought it was OK for me to do.
Dad: If one of the other guys robbed a bank, would you do it too?
Me: No.
Dad: So you knew what you were doing was wrong, and did it anyway?
Me: Yes.
Dad: You know that there are consequences for doing something wrong, don't you?
Me: Yes.
Dad: So did you think you wouldn't get in trouble for doing something you knew was wrong in the first place?
Me: well...
Dad: Let the consequences ensue...
Don't do the crime if your not willing to do the time.
Pay the fine and don't do it again, that would be my recommendation. The cop was doing his job.
Dad: Why'd you do that?
Me: I wanted to.
Dad: Why? What were you thinking?
Me: Well, one of the other guys was doing it too, so I thought it was OK for me to do.
Dad: If one of the other guys robbed a bank, would you do it too?
Me: No.
Dad: So you knew what you were doing was wrong, and did it anyway?
Me: Yes.
Dad: You know that there are consequences for doing something wrong, don't you?
Me: Yes.
Dad: So did you think you wouldn't get in trouble for doing something you knew was wrong in the first place?
Me: well...
Dad: Let the consequences ensue...
Don't do the crime if your not willing to do the time.
Pay the fine and don't do it again, that would be my recommendation. The cop was doing his job.
03-19-2014, 02:49 PM
#36
Drifting
The law is the law, cops aren't supposed to be above it.
For that matter, no one should get reduced penalties or warnings on speeding offenses unless there are extenuating circumstances. Going 80 in a 65 is going 80 in a 65... unless you are fleeing from a tsunami or in a Toyota with a stuck throttle or something there is no possible reason to lessen that charge for anyone.
Speeding should always carry the same consequences upon getting caught, whether you are a 16 year old jerk kid in daddy's Vette or a 75 year old retired 4-star general who volunteers 60 hours a week and gives all his money to charities. The law is the law.
03-19-2014, 02:53 PM
#37
Drifting
Seems like a crime of opportunity to me.
You perceived his speeding as an opportunity for you to do the same.
Its still a crime, opportunity or not, and he's the one with the magic ticket book.
You perceived his speeding as an opportunity for you to do the same.
Its still a crime, opportunity or not, and he's the one with the magic ticket book.
03-19-2014, 02:56 PM
#38
Le Mans Master
He was only doing his job if he also gave himself a ticket for the same offense. The cop is 100% guilty of the exact same speeding violation and deserves an identical fine and points, period.
The law is the law, cops aren't supposed to be above it.
For that matter, no one should get reduced penalties or warnings on speeding offenses unless there are extenuating circumstances. Going 80 in a 65 is going 80 in a 65... unless you are fleeing from a tsunami or in a Toyota with a stuck throttle or something there is no possible reason to lessen that charge for anyone.
Speeding should always carry the same consequences upon getting caught, whether you are a 16 year old jerk kid in daddy's Vette or a 75 year old retired 4-star general who volunteers 60 hours a week and gives all his money to charities. The law is the law.
The law is the law, cops aren't supposed to be above it.
For that matter, no one should get reduced penalties or warnings on speeding offenses unless there are extenuating circumstances. Going 80 in a 65 is going 80 in a 65... unless you are fleeing from a tsunami or in a Toyota with a stuck throttle or something there is no possible reason to lessen that charge for anyone.
Speeding should always carry the same consequences upon getting caught, whether you are a 16 year old jerk kid in daddy's Vette or a 75 year old retired 4-star general who volunteers 60 hours a week and gives all his money to charities. The law is the law.
03-19-2014, 03:01 PM
#39
Le Mans Master
It doesn't matter if the cop was speeding, only matters if you were. Sorry to say but pay up and forget about it. Next time don't tail a cop if he's speeding, better yet just get the heck away from him all together.
03-19-2014, 03:02 PM
#40
Drifting