ParisTNDude

[QUOTE=onspeed;1583708931]A tune only 335i kept up very well with my Z06 when I had just bolt-ons. That same car would have no issues against any bolt-on base C5 or 5th gen camaro.

That said, a "tune-only" turbo car can vary widely in HP against another "tune-only" since the tune usually just consists of upping the boost. I know the Cobb and JB4 tuners for the 335i have different settings which can vary boost from stock (9 psi I think?) to something like 17 psi, a difference of about 130 hp. So I don't doubt your story, but don't go thinking every lightly modded 335i/135i will be that slow.


Since I wasn't there and can't comment on "your" experience, I can only say that my many years of drag racing have never seen a BMW that ran well. I've owned a couple new BMWs and they are fun to drive but not great and certainly no match for Corvette.

However, I'm sure anyone with enough money can make anything run well.

Lifted07Sierra

To the guy running the 2010 camaro you are starting out with a lot more power than a C5 is so yea a modded 335i is going to have a harder time hanging.

And what is it with some of you people? I never came in here and said that the BMW can do this or that. I only came here to share my experience with my new car and also state that these cars are no joke with a few mods.

Drink one or smoke one for those of you who get all bent out of shape over alil car talk

JETninja

Go ahead and take it to 600HP...your still dealing with skinny tires and no LSD and its heavier. I don't buy the H/C/I argument, the C5 may be down a little but not much, but still weighs 400+ lbs less, has more tire and LSD. Yes, you have great torque and that's what pushes you back in your seat and feels awesome, but it doesn't win many "Real" drag races beyond roll-ons. Get real. Enjoy it, but if you want people to be impressed, hang over at Bimmerforums. (my other haught since '05 when I got my M3) I've ridden in my friends 335i many times (stock) and I'm sure my '95 M3 (not close to stock) would give him a good ride for the money! (It weighs as much as the C5...Bimmers sadly get porkier with age)

onspeed

Well they're generally not straight line cars, and they also generally are hard to modify to make more power than stock. Their NA motors are running pretty efficient from the factory, so while LS motors get 40+ HP increases from bolt-ons, similar modifications on an NA BMW motor usually yields something like 10 hp. Other than adding force induction or nitrous, I've never really seen the NA motors making a lot of power over stock.

That said, the 335i is a turbo motor, and like most factory turbo applications, the boost is on the conservative side from the factory (I assume for reliability reasons and M3 sales). $700 for a handheld tuner to increase boost and those cars can put down numbers comparable to the M3 (350rwhp). A few more $$ on various intake and exhaust piping, and it's closer to 380rwhp (from ~270rwhp stock).

So. Take a car that's doing low 13s @ ~105MPH stock (that's not some "factory freak" or some one-off forum guy, most magazine articles are around there), add 100hp, and you have a pretty stout car, relative to a stock or bolt-on C5.

edit - and about weights, someone can fact-check me on this, but I think the difference is closer to ~300lb against a base C5. I don't see a lightly modded BMW coming closer to a H/C/I C5 though.

jmac2354

I have a buddy with 2002 m3, putting down 750 whp, if there are any doubters, check out horsepowerfreaks.com. It doesn't have the sound of a V8, but they can make unbelievable power. His package was little north of 20000 just for kit, but he's been running that kit for about 3 years now with no issues.

ZO6ME

I just did a road track day. My car is 717rwhp. There was a 335i there and it ran very good. I must admit I was impressed. 335i had stock run flats and he could somewhat keep up in most of the turns til we hit the straight away. He beat 3 masserati's, mustang gt's (suspension mods not 5.0) and other cars. He was always second behind me. He had a gopro so hopefully in the near future I will have vids.

damilleniumboy

Beware the LS1 Miata.

robert miller

also the mazda rx7 with the ls motors in them.

momo20

all I can say is to the OP is one unfamous quote by Jeremy Clarkson BMW's are great cars, but I would never want to own one out of warranty .. and like others have said the H/C/I vette would walk your 335I bemmer..

robert miller

Wifey gets one ever 2 or 3 years, 2011 328i now and it is a great family car. Drives like a dream on the interstate.. But for dam sure not a vette at all...

Lifted07Sierra

Well atleast there are some guys coming in here backing up what Im saying about the 335i. I had no idea how nice of a car it was until I drove one.
And having one out of warranty isnt that bad. The motors are forged and hold up good. Fuel pumps, turbos going out are the main things and those are warrantied even after your factory warranty runs out.
If I wanted to take my H/C/I vette in this BMW it would take some RB turbos which is the stock turbos slightly upgraded.

JETninja

That sounds like their Stage 2.5 or possibly 3.0 kit...they do aerospace quality work, truly a special place. They are located in Oregon.

JETninja

Jeremy says all sorts of crap, my '95 M3 has 214K and it rips like it was new, and it ain't stopping any time soon. Only bad things are the plastics, they get hard with age and break. Still fun as hell, 50/50 perfectly balanced car...

Dave68

There are many, many C5s and C6s out there with over 800 HP. As they say, there is no replacement for displacement. A 346 cubic inch engine simply has more potential than a much smaller (182 cubic inch) engine, so if a BMW owner wants to play the horsepower-at-any-cost game, he will lose every time.

vettestream

Yea but that is an E36, far more robust platform, with way less tech and costly electronics that can fail.

o2bnkc

Well maybe 99.9% of us don't give a crap about BMW's. If we did we'd be over at some BMW forum. How about I bore you to death talking about my wife's Nitro? When I want to talk about my old truck I go to www.stovebolt.com or HAMB.com I don't bore people on this site. Nobody cares how fast your BMW is.

Black 02

Say that to the GTR and Supra crowd

IfastR

335I are definitely neat cars and pick up power well. Pretty sure you need bolt on's and E85 or meth to get around 400whp though (thats with a manual also, auto would be less). My buddy has a 335i coupe with intakes and procede tune. We played from dig/roll and he lost both times. I just have a FRC with vararam/TI's. I love both cars but the feeling of the vette is definitely unique and hard to beat for the money.

o2bnkc

This almost makes me nolstagic for the Miata owners crowd on here. Well. not really.

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