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Old 11-21-2012, 12:37 PM   #1
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Sorry, I had to put something interesting and unique as a title. I was just thinking about something. I know my 2002 Corvette with heads and cam put down 440 ft-lbs of torque, has 300 ft-lbs of torque solid basically from 1500 rpms up. It is build on a body on frame in which the frame is probably more rigid than some pickup trucks, and it weights 3200 lbs. Why could you not technically pull some heavy freight with a corvette with a trailer with electronic brakes? Does it have to do with wheel base?

I'm just wanting someone to flame me first, cause I know that will happen, but then enlighten me to the physics without calling me a dumbass, lol.

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Old 11-21-2012, 12:39 PM   #2
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:41 PM   #3
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depends, did you want to toe or tow a boat ?
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:42 PM   #4
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Why would you want to ????
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:42 PM   #5
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:43 PM   #6
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Well....let us start with your spelling young man!!

toe vs. tow......

I would think it would depend more on the size of the boat and the tongue weight. Would most likely have to beef up the rear suspension......and find something to weld a hitch system to.

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edit: someone beat me to the punch.....
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My guess would be that the tongue weight of heavy freight would cause the hitch to drag on the street.

You could absolutely tow (not toe) something light with it and I've see it happen. Some jet-skis perhaps??
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sound like a legit question, what does the boat weigh?
could be equivalent to towing a jet ski
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sound like a legit question, what does the boat weigh?
could be equivalent to towing a jet ski
Well let's say 2,000 lbs total weight, 500 on the tongue. Dumbass, I don't need your degenerative remarks, just trying to understand the variables that limit towing factors. I know wheelbase has directly effect towing limits.
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Well....let us start with your spelling young man!!

toe vs. tow......

I would think it would depend more on the size of the boat and the tongue weight. Would most likely have to beef up the rear suspension......and find something to weld a hitch system to.

Getting warm yet?....mild flame....


edit: someone beat me to the punch.....
A point proven, especially limits the weight you can have on the tongue of a trailer.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:03 PM   #11
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Though it is not politically correct or keeping up with the Jones, it is probably safe to say a corvette would have no problem pulling a 200 horsepower fiberglass bass boat. (Conventional wisdom requires you pull your bass boat with a new crew cab loaded truck, because the idea isn't about fishing as much as it is about showing your *** off and the boat and the new truck is a display of your success, or your exorbinant debt up to your neck)

And no, i'm not wanting to pull a bass boat. If anything I may pull a 49x49 200 lbs utility trailer with tires and tools if I ever get to bring my car to a track session. Not even 1000 lbs, which isn't much at all...

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I would think two jet ski's or a 10ft or under open fishing boat would be fine without much modification.

But if you are talking a more "serious" boat, you have to consider springs, tires, frame strength, short axles and tranny. None of which are meant to withstand that kind of use on a Corvette.

Stick to the light stuff and it should work.

And...I'm kind of figuring the "dumbass" remark may have been "tongue-in-cheek" since you seemed to be asking for "flames".....not serious. But I might be wrong too.
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Works for this guy......

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Works for this guy......

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There you go and I wouldn't worry about damage to the driveline of a corvette as seeing that the 09 up LS3 vettes have a TR6060 and much beffier differential. Convential Wisdom says that will easily withstand 600 ft-lbs of torque.

May need transmission fluid coolers I suppose. Nice picture, that seems to work quite well.
The man specifically says that it works just fine cruising in 4th gear which would be, at highway speeds of 70 mph would be around 2200-2500 rpms?

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I think GM puts no towing in the manual for 3 particular reasons.

1. They don't wanna be liable for any damages under warranty. (perhaps)
2. They figured since its a corvette, people aren't going to tow with it anyways.
3. They figured since you have a corvette, we can sell you a truck too. hint. hint.
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Check this out....

http://www.vetteweb.com/tech/vet_031...h/viewall.html

I have seen a hitch for sale on some sites...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...d-mileage.html

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Why, Just Why!
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Well let's say 2,000 lbs total weight, 500 on the tongue. Dumbass, I don't need your degenerative remarks, just trying to understand the variables that limit towing factors. I know wheelbase has directly effect towing limits.
why am I the dumbass, what remark did I give you? because im trying to see how big this said boat is?
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Drivetrain is not a concern. Obviously the car has brakes and power to spare and is designed to have the drivetrain operating at severe duty cycles.

What is of concern is the fact that the frame, rigid as it may be, and the suspension, stiff as it may be, are not designed for the very specific loads that are applied when towing.

That being said there are plenty of people that tow stuff with their Vettes and the car is "fine". Just as fine as people that put down double the rwhp as was designed from the factory. Or if you ran 15k between oil changes instead of 7k. You're just eating into the safety margins designed into the car and maybe it will work out and maybe it won't.
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