What's the right thing to do?
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What's the right thing to do?
I just sold my 99 FRC. The new owner paid for the car in advance after a contact of his had driven and inspected my car. The car was sold as is, the new owner flew in to drive his new pride and joy home, but he didn't make it 100 miles (a day later) and the car developed some clutch probem, I've still not been told what the exact problem is. It was taken to a GM dealership for repair, where it was estimated $1600 to $2500 to fix whatever is causing the problem. I owned this car just over a year and never ever had a clutch probem (or any other for that matter) with it. I absolutley wouldn't sell any vehical that i knew had a problem unless the buyer was aware before hand. I know he drives differant than I do and the problem developed a day after the purchase was made. What do you all think ? Am I responsible? I wish I never sold it cause I didn't have too, and this is making me sick.
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If he signed a bill of sale that said as is, then you are off the hook legally. But, you have to do what your conscience tells you is right. I recently had 16 cases of MRE's that I gave to the Boy Scouts for overnight trips. The scout leader wanted to pay me $800 for them, but I couldn't take money in clear conscience from the Boy Scouts so I let him have them for free. I lost out on $800...but I can sleep well at night!
Last edited by Praetorian27; 07-01-2012 at 06:11 PM.
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I just sold my 99 FRC. The new owner paid for the car in advance after a contact of his had driven and inspected my car. The car was sold as is, the new owner flew in to drive his new pride and joy home, but he didn't make it 100 miles (a day later) and the car developed some clutch probem, I've still not been told what the exact problem is. It was taken to a GM dealership for repair, where it was estimated $1600 to $2500 to fix whatever is causing the problem. I owned this car just over a year and never ever had a clutch probem (or any other for that matter) with it. I absolutley wouldn't sell any vehical that i knew had a problem unless the buyer was aware before hand. I know he drives differant than I do and the problem developed a day after the purchase was made. What do you all think ? Am I responsible? I wish I never sold it cause I didn't have too, and this is making me sick.
I "might" consider paying 1/3.
Between you, the hired guy that drove it, and the buyer, that is 1/3 of the responsibility and is MORE than fair.
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i'd pay half
leaving him stuck is bad karma.
sometimes springs just pop out of the disc. usually happens on a high speed run {which wouldn't shock me if he just bought it}
still, the clutch was on its way out if it failed that easily
i know a lot of folks like to keep every last dollar they can in their pocket but i'll tell ya what, being good to others will get you a lot further in life than giving people the finger.
by the way, how the heck is the quote so high? before i paid i would want to chat with the dealer
leaving him stuck is bad karma.
sometimes springs just pop out of the disc. usually happens on a high speed run {which wouldn't shock me if he just bought it}
still, the clutch was on its way out if it failed that easily
i know a lot of folks like to keep every last dollar they can in their pocket but i'll tell ya what, being good to others will get you a lot further in life than giving people the finger.
by the way, how the heck is the quote so high? before i paid i would want to chat with the dealer
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I would be good for half the repair.
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Sold as is - plus another person inspected it!
BUT let's get real - dude got a new Vette - you cannot tell me he was not ripping it up and having some fun slamming and rowing the gears -
You are in the clear - I would not worry about it - he might of even burned out the clutch to boot!
Sleep easy my friend!
Thanks,Matt
BUT let's get real - dude got a new Vette - you cannot tell me he was not ripping it up and having some fun slamming and rowing the gears -
You are in the clear - I would not worry about it - he might of even burned out the clutch to boot!
Sleep easy my friend!
Thanks,Matt
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I'm thinking the 1/3rd is more than fair.
He had his person drive the car and give it a clean bill of health.
The third is just token for your own satisfaction.
Personally I wouldn't give him anything, how do you know he wasn't winding it up and dumping the clutch.
He bought a used car, as is, nothing to feel guilty about at all!
I certainly would want a better quote for even the third share.
He had his person drive the car and give it a clean bill of health.
The third is just token for your own satisfaction.
Personally I wouldn't give him anything, how do you know he wasn't winding it up and dumping the clutch.
He bought a used car, as is, nothing to feel guilty about at all!
I certainly would want a better quote for even the third share.
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Well, when you purchase a used car especially a manual shift c5 Corvette,
that is 14 years old ..... There is plenty that could go wrong with the hydraulic system in these cars.
If one were to investigate/research these c5's for potential clutch related problems, prior to buying, not to mention countless other things that these cars are notorious for getting you stranded .
The buyer could have arranged to have the car professionally enclosed trailered to his location & without incident.
He chose to "role the dice" & assume that this fourteen year old car, which he knows nothing about it's reliability, will be able to get him back to where he lives with out incident.
I don't think you owe the buyer anything, unless you were aware of a mechanical problem & didn't acknowledge it to the new potential buyer.
If you were aware of a problem & didn't relay it to the buyer, than a
30% of the repair bill may be in order.
Yes I am a firm believer in Karma, Good & Bad.
End of story.
that is 14 years old ..... There is plenty that could go wrong with the hydraulic system in these cars.
If one were to investigate/research these c5's for potential clutch related problems, prior to buying, not to mention countless other things that these cars are notorious for getting you stranded .
The buyer could have arranged to have the car professionally enclosed trailered to his location & without incident.
He chose to "role the dice" & assume that this fourteen year old car, which he knows nothing about it's reliability, will be able to get him back to where he lives with out incident.
I don't think you owe the buyer anything, unless you were aware of a mechanical problem & didn't acknowledge it to the new potential buyer.
If you were aware of a problem & didn't relay it to the buyer, than a
30% of the repair bill may be in order.
Yes I am a firm believer in Karma, Good & Bad.
End of story.
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Sold as is - plus another person inspected it!
BUT let's get real - dude got a new Vette - you cannot tell me he was not ripping it up and having some fun slamming and rowing the gears -
You are in the clear - I would not worry about it - he might of even burned out the clutch to boot!
Sleep easy my friend!
BUT let's get real - dude got a new Vette - you cannot tell me he was not ripping it up and having some fun slamming and rowing the gears -
You are in the clear - I would not worry about it - he might of even burned out the clutch to boot!
Sleep easy my friend!
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Honestly, if he signed a bill of sale you're off the hook.
However... If you're feeling guilty...And if you want to be sure everything is legit... (cuz this sounds like it could be a little fishy to me)...
Offer to buy the specific parts and have them shipped there, they'll be cheaper than dealer retail anyway. That way if he's just trying to get money out of you/scam you - it won't work. If it's legit, it'll hit you less in the wallet AND satisfy your conscience.
However... If you're feeling guilty...And if you want to be sure everything is legit... (cuz this sounds like it could be a little fishy to me)...
Offer to buy the specific parts and have them shipped there, they'll be cheaper than dealer retail anyway. That way if he's just trying to get money out of you/scam you - it won't work. If it's legit, it'll hit you less in the wallet AND satisfy your conscience.
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Yikes.....do what you think you should be treated like if you were in this position.....I know when I bought my dream vette and this would of happened it would have broken my heart....tough position for all...but this is a fraternity....your call man...I know what I would do...peace!
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leaving him stuck is bad karma.
sometimes springs just pop out of the disc. usually happens on a high speed run {which wouldn't shock me if he just bought it}
still, the clutch was on its way out if it failed that easily
i know a lot of folks like to keep every last dollar they can in their pocket but i'll tell ya what, being good to others will get you a lot further in life than giving people the finger.
by the way, how the heck is the quote so high? before i paid i would want to chat with the dealer
Yes, legally you are off the hook because the car was sold "as is".
But, put yourself in his shoes. How would you like to be treated?
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Yikes.....do what you think you should be treated like if you were in this position.....I know when I bought my dream vette and this would of happened it would have broken my heart....tough position for all...but this is a fraternity....your call man...I know what I would do...peace!
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It all boils down to what you knew when you sold it. If it is in fact the case that you honestly drove it (spirited sometimes) and never had a problem with the clutch you are aboslutely off the hook.
No one, you or I or the best mechanic can tell you exactly when a component will fail. You are buying a used car, you take a look at it, ask the history and pay what you think is fair taking into consideration that you're buying a car as is and may have to pay to fix stuff when it goes (you take that into account when considering what "fair" is on the price).
The other end of it is if you had to pick a component and make it fail, the clutch is way up high on the list of things misuse can drasticaly shorten the life of. If he drove away and a wheel fell off, well that may take some "splainig"
All depends on what you knew (and said to him) when you sold it.
No one, you or I or the best mechanic can tell you exactly when a component will fail. You are buying a used car, you take a look at it, ask the history and pay what you think is fair taking into consideration that you're buying a car as is and may have to pay to fix stuff when it goes (you take that into account when considering what "fair" is on the price).
The other end of it is if you had to pick a component and make it fail, the clutch is way up high on the list of things misuse can drasticaly shorten the life of. If he drove away and a wheel fell off, well that may take some "splainig"
All depends on what you knew (and said to him) when you sold it.