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#42
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My first exposure with that wing design was actually in the C Turbo 210.
Yeah I bet the C5 and a Cardinal in toy box.
Piper has some great stuff too, believe it or not I took my multi check ride in a Piper Apache LOL. Now their Malibu with the turbine is sweet.
I was reading this Corvalis rides at 24K at 225 kts. consuming only 24 gph!
That's quite a panel too. Not the old Cessna's I started off in! Talk about Star Wars cockpit for a 21st century SEL.
Yeah I bet the C5 and a Cardinal in toy box.
Piper has some great stuff too, believe it or not I took my multi check ride in a Piper Apache LOL. Now their Malibu with the turbine is sweet.
I was reading this Corvalis rides at 24K at 225 kts. consuming only 24 gph!
That's quite a panel too. Not the old Cessna's I started off in! Talk about Star Wars cockpit for a 21st century SEL.
Back OT, thanks DeeGee!! I'll be doing this to my 02Z this spring.
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#43
Safety Car
Does it matter the loctite used on the capiler bolts vs the bracket bolts?
I think i read red loctite for the brackets - can ya use the red on the caplipers too?
Thanks
I think i read red loctite for the brackets - can ya use the red on the caplipers too?
Thanks
#46
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Hi DeeGee -
Very nice how-too - thanks!
As Kale mentions, I would add that I remove the caliper mounting bolts and rubber bellows, clean and inspect them, and then coat the sliders with caliper grease and re-install.
Another thing to consider, many people will "top-off" the master cylinder reservoir, which is a no-no, because when you compress the pistons back into the calipers, the fluid level can then overflow the master (which will leak all over even if the cap is in place). Make sure the owner of the var has not topped off the master and all should be well. The fluid level should move down to the lower level as the pad material wears.
I use Loc-tite blue (removable) thread-lock when doing brake jobs.
Finally, since someone mentioned about pushing fluid back into the calipers; the fluid in the caliper pistons is no more or less dirty than the fluid anywhere else in the system, so the notion that compressing the caliper will push "dirty" fluid back into the system is incorrect. The system is a sealed system excepting only for the vented cap on the master cylinder reservoir.
thanks again for the how-to. Good to see some of the old guys still around here.
best regards -
mqqn
Very nice how-too - thanks!
As Kale mentions, I would add that I remove the caliper mounting bolts and rubber bellows, clean and inspect them, and then coat the sliders with caliper grease and re-install.
Another thing to consider, many people will "top-off" the master cylinder reservoir, which is a no-no, because when you compress the pistons back into the calipers, the fluid level can then overflow the master (which will leak all over even if the cap is in place). Make sure the owner of the var has not topped off the master and all should be well. The fluid level should move down to the lower level as the pad material wears.
I use Loc-tite blue (removable) thread-lock when doing brake jobs.
Finally, since someone mentioned about pushing fluid back into the calipers; the fluid in the caliper pistons is no more or less dirty than the fluid anywhere else in the system, so the notion that compressing the caliper will push "dirty" fluid back into the system is incorrect. The system is a sealed system excepting only for the vented cap on the master cylinder reservoir.
thanks again for the how-to. Good to see some of the old guys still around here.
best regards -
mqqn
Last edited by mqqn; 02-26-2011 at 02:55 AM.
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I just finished a 600 mile road trip which is the longest I've done since I fitted the pads and rotors
The new fit was flawless. Great stopping power, no squealing and almost no brake dust over the first 1000 miles.
The new fit was flawless. Great stopping power, no squealing and almost no brake dust over the first 1000 miles.
#49
mqqn,
Actually.....the fluid down in the caliper IS more dirty than the rest. Why? Because water is heavier than brake fluid. The water absorbed into the hygroscopic brake fluid causes it to be heavier and sink to the lowest point...the caliper. There the moisture (the oxygen in the H2O) begins accelerating the oxidation process and voilla! The dirtiest fluid!
To clarify another post - pushing that dirty fluid back up in the line doesn't do anything to "the abs sensor." What it will do is push dirty fluid back up into the ABS control unit which contains valves that control brake pressure. They have some seriously small orifices and miniature filters inside which can be easily plugged with the gunk pushed up from your caliper.
We in the brake design/manufacturing business recommend flushing your brake fluid once / year. If you do that, you'll never have to worry about pushing anything up...it'll all be sqeaky clean in there.
Actually.....the fluid down in the caliper IS more dirty than the rest. Why? Because water is heavier than brake fluid. The water absorbed into the hygroscopic brake fluid causes it to be heavier and sink to the lowest point...the caliper. There the moisture (the oxygen in the H2O) begins accelerating the oxidation process and voilla! The dirtiest fluid!
To clarify another post - pushing that dirty fluid back up in the line doesn't do anything to "the abs sensor." What it will do is push dirty fluid back up into the ABS control unit which contains valves that control brake pressure. They have some seriously small orifices and miniature filters inside which can be easily plugged with the gunk pushed up from your caliper.
We in the brake design/manufacturing business recommend flushing your brake fluid once / year. If you do that, you'll never have to worry about pushing anything up...it'll all be sqeaky clean in there.
#51
Great write up,, and nice pictures of the aircraft. I got my Private license in 1968 flying a Cessna 150. Commercial, Multi, Instrument, Instructor, all in 1970. I have not flown much since 1999. Avionics have changed a ton.
I think Corvettes and aircraft go together nicely.
I think Corvettes and aircraft go together nicely.
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very nice write up. One thing to add is that when breaking the front caliper bracket bolts lose it is easier if you turn the wheel to the right for the driver side and to the left for the passenger side. This allows you to get easier access to the bolts because they are turn out towards you.
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Missed this post the first time around. Thanks for the great write-up DeeGee and to all others who have offered additional information.
#55
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instructions replacing rotors & pads
Hi:
I just want to thank you for the time and effort you put in to this
stept by step process for rotor & pad replacement. I am now making
hard copies of your post. I have gotten the same type of C-5
replacement as you have. This will make the changeover a lot
easier for us do it your selfers for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
Thank You again for what you have done, as for myself I really do
appreciate it.
porchrd
bettersrichard@yahoo.com
I just want to thank you for the time and effort you put in to this
stept by step process for rotor & pad replacement. I am now making
hard copies of your post. I have gotten the same type of C-5
replacement as you have. This will make the changeover a lot
easier for us do it your selfers for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
Thank You again for what you have done, as for myself I really do
appreciate it.
porchrd
bettersrichard@yahoo.com
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Hi:
I just want to thank you for the time and effort you put in to this
stept by step process for rotor & pad replacement. I am now making
hard copies of your post. I have gotten the same type of C-5
replacement as you have. This will make the changeover a lot
easier for us do it your selfers for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
Thank You again for what you have done, as for myself I really do
appreciate it.
porchrd
bettersrichard@yahoo.com
I just want to thank you for the time and effort you put in to this
stept by step process for rotor & pad replacement. I am now making
hard copies of your post. I have gotten the same type of C-5
replacement as you have. This will make the changeover a lot
easier for us do it your selfers for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
Thank You again for what you have done, as for myself I really do
appreciate it.
porchrd
bettersrichard@yahoo.com
#57
Drifting
Great write up an pics.
Just a note though. The lockwasher retainers on the wheel studs do not have to be installed. They are only there OEM as an assembly aid at the factory.
I do know of one Vette that had tire balance issues that was tracked down to these retainers.
I may have missed it but be sure your E brake is not engaged before you try to remove the rear rotors.
You may also have to compress the caliper pistons to get them to slide over the new pads. You can use a C-clamp and old caliper pad or a caliper compression tool.
Just a note though. The lockwasher retainers on the wheel studs do not have to be installed. They are only there OEM as an assembly aid at the factory.
I do know of one Vette that had tire balance issues that was tracked down to these retainers.
I may have missed it but be sure your E brake is not engaged before you try to remove the rear rotors.
You may also have to compress the caliper pistons to get them to slide over the new pads. You can use a C-clamp and old caliper pad or a caliper compression tool.
#59
Getting ready to do mine this weekend ....only question is that I have some heat checking on my front rotors, so I was thinking about turning or replacing.... Any thoughts