Fuel leak 2004 cracked crossover connector smells
#621
Any Luck With GM/Chevrolet?
It appears that my 2004 may have developed the infamous crossover tube leak. The tank is being pulled this afternoon to determine whether it's the crossover, fuel pump module assembly or somewhere else on the tank (vent valve maybe). My guess, based on reading through multiple threads and because my car falls within the VIN range of tanks affected by the Special Coverage Adjustment, is that it's the crossover tube/quick connector leaking.
I understand that the updated coverage only ran for 10 years from the date the car went into service or 100,000 miles. Whichever came first. My car has just over 40,000 miles, but obviously the 10 year limit has been surpassed.
My question is, has anyone been able to get GM/Chevrolet to cover the cost of replacement past either/both of these limits? The car hasn't been tracked and receives regular maintenance. I find it hard to believe that a known defect can't/won't be covered by the manufacturer on vehicles with low mileage. In my opinion, if the vehicle makes it to 100,000 miles before exhibiting symptoms of this problem, then you've gotten your money's worth. Though, the safety aspect is still concerning, regardless of miles.
I understand that the updated coverage only ran for 10 years from the date the car went into service or 100,000 miles. Whichever came first. My car has just over 40,000 miles, but obviously the 10 year limit has been surpassed.
My question is, has anyone been able to get GM/Chevrolet to cover the cost of replacement past either/both of these limits? The car hasn't been tracked and receives regular maintenance. I find it hard to believe that a known defect can't/won't be covered by the manufacturer on vehicles with low mileage. In my opinion, if the vehicle makes it to 100,000 miles before exhibiting symptoms of this problem, then you've gotten your money's worth. Though, the safety aspect is still concerning, regardless of miles.
#623
Pro
It appears that my 2004 may have developed the infamous crossover tube leak. The tank is being pulled this afternoon to determine whether it's the crossover, fuel pump module assembly or somewhere else on the tank (vent valve maybe). My guess, based on reading through multiple threads and because my car falls within the VIN range of tanks affected by the Special Coverage Adjustment, is that it's the crossover tube/quick connector leaking.
I understand that the updated coverage only ran for 10 years from the date the car went into service or 100,000 miles. Whichever came first. My car has just over 40,000 miles, but obviously the 10 year limit has been surpassed.
My question is, has anyone been able to get GM/Chevrolet to cover the cost of replacement past either/both of these limits? The car hasn't been tracked and receives regular maintenance. I find it hard to believe that a known defect can't/won't be covered by the manufacturer on vehicles with low mileage. In my opinion, if the vehicle makes it to 100,000 miles before exhibiting symptoms of this problem, then you've gotten your money's worth. Though, the safety aspect is still concerning, regardless of miles.
I understand that the updated coverage only ran for 10 years from the date the car went into service or 100,000 miles. Whichever came first. My car has just over 40,000 miles, but obviously the 10 year limit has been surpassed.
My question is, has anyone been able to get GM/Chevrolet to cover the cost of replacement past either/both of these limits? The car hasn't been tracked and receives regular maintenance. I find it hard to believe that a known defect can't/won't be covered by the manufacturer on vehicles with low mileage. In my opinion, if the vehicle makes it to 100,000 miles before exhibiting symptoms of this problem, then you've gotten your money's worth. Though, the safety aspect is still concerning, regardless of miles.
#624
Originally Posted by SS2001SS
I felt the same way and ended up fixing mine myself. I'm guessing your crossover bung is going to be cracked. Learn from my experience and replace both tanks.
Last edited by StngStlkr; 07-14-2015 at 05:47 PM.
#626
Pro
Mine is a 6 speed. You can do it without dropping the transmission even an automatic. It ain't easy but it's doable.
Last edited by SS2001SS; 07-15-2015 at 07:47 PM.
#627
Thanks for the info on the A4 guys. I appreciate it.
In doing more research on this issue I discovered that certain models of the Chevrolet Cobalt (07, 08, 09), Pontiac G5 (07, 08, 09), Chevrolet Equinox (07) and Pontiac Torrent (07) also experienced fuel leaks.
Originally, they had a special bulletin, but that escalated to a full-blown recall, I.E. no time or mileage limits. So, an '07 Cobalt with 200k miles can have its fuel leak fixed, but not a C5 with 40k miles or even less in many cases?
Just got a call from the Corvette technician at the dealership where I took it. They want $3472.12 to fix it.
In doing more research on this issue I discovered that certain models of the Chevrolet Cobalt (07, 08, 09), Pontiac G5 (07, 08, 09), Chevrolet Equinox (07) and Pontiac Torrent (07) also experienced fuel leaks.
Originally, they had a special bulletin, but that escalated to a full-blown recall, I.E. no time or mileage limits. So, an '07 Cobalt with 200k miles can have its fuel leak fixed, but not a C5 with 40k miles or even less in many cases?
Just got a call from the Corvette technician at the dealership where I took it. They want $3472.12 to fix it.
Last edited by StngStlkr; 07-16-2015 at 03:47 PM.
#628
Melting Slicks
seriously?
I spent about 500 bucks on a new tank and cross over pipe from an 06 Z06..
it was a PITA doing it on my back in the garage..But it got done none the less..
I cant believe Gm and their poor decision making.
I spent about 500 bucks on a new tank and cross over pipe from an 06 Z06..
it was a PITA doing it on my back in the garage..But it got done none the less..
I cant believe Gm and their poor decision making.
#629
They quoted me $1195 for the tank alone. I still can't believe this never escalated into a full-blown recall.
#630
I spoke with my dad since he's a car guy, too, and has some connections where he lives (about 1hr away). The dealership there estimated it would be $1,881. Granted, that's sight unseen and not a firm quote. Anyone had success price matching dealerships?
#631
Believe it!!!. GM convinced the morons at NHTSA that there was no danger with the leaking gas and the resulting gas fumes so they let them off with the 10 year or 100K miles warranty. See what greasing the right palms can do.... A few million spent right saved them 10's of millions if they had been forced to recall all the cars in the suspect VIN range.
This is probably a longshot, but does anyone know where I could find data regarding the reason why some bulletins have date/time limits and others do not? I believe the U.S. Code is in regards to "motor vehicle safety", and like 8VETTE7 said the NHTSA hasn't deemed this issue dangerous enough. I was just curious if there was something beyond what's contained in the Defect Investigation Results. All it states is:
GM does not believe the cracks represent an unreasonable risk to motor vehicle safety based on factors that include; low rate of fuel leaking to the ground, detectable fuel odor, the cracks are at the top of the tank, leaks are detectable during refueling, small quantities of fuel that leaks out, and no associated property damage or personal injury claims.
#633
Thanks! I'll price those out using GM Parts Direct, and local dealerships to see how far off my current quote is.
#636
Pro
#637
Got two more quotes from area dealerships so everything is pretty similar. Both of those checked in around $2,300. Neither one could really figure out where the extra $1,100 would come from.
I found two used tanks as well. One from Corvette Recycling for $379.99 and another from VetteNuts for $325. Both state that they're in excellent condition.
Looks like I'll have to either get the current dealership to move closer to my other three quotes, or get it put back together enough that it can get moved to another location where I have the tools to do it myself.
I found two used tanks as well. One from Corvette Recycling for $379.99 and another from VetteNuts for $325. Both state that they're in excellent condition.
Looks like I'll have to either get the current dealership to move closer to my other three quotes, or get it put back together enough that it can get moved to another location where I have the tools to do it myself.
#639
Does anyone know if a class action was ever filed on this matter in an attempt to get GM to issue a full recall? I searched various resources and made a few calls, but haven't found one.
#640
I don't know. But I would guess their get-out-of-jail-free card (i.e., the gov't bailout of GM at taxpayer expense) washed all that stuff down the toilet. (please excuse my use of legal jargon)