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Old 05-13-2009, 09:01 AM
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If Your Seats Are A Rockin...........
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This shim kit stops your (electrical) seats from sliding forward and rearward during braking and acceleration because of "worn-out" stock seat track shims. It includes 4 simple, self-lubricating shims that replace the stock shims (GM doesn't sell replacements) and 2 special Torx L-keys. Both of the L-keys are not generally available at the regular retail stores and one of the L-keys is specially sized to fit between the seat tracks.

Until now the only repair option has been to buy new seat tracks for over $500. Easily repair it yourself at home. Includes step-by-step instructions. Only $24.99
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What years does this problem typically affect, or is it all of them??

Is it mileage related?

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Do the seats still have to be fully removed to install these?
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I have had my 04 Z06 5 years now. The passenger seat has been used about 10 times total in 5 years. My wife said a month ago when she was in it that her passenger seat rocks when I stop or acceletate.

I thought your fix was for power drivers seat ? Or is it for manual passenger seats also ? My power seat (knock on wood) is not rocking.

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I don't think repeated seat adjusting plays a substantial part in the failure of these parts but more to the fact the material used wasn't up to the task.
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Originally Posted by stevedun
Do the seats still have to be fully removed to install these?
The seat will have to be removed. I can't think of any other way to get access to the lead screw inside the rails. I think the process is the same as http://www.lieblweb.com/TechLinks/Co.../C5SeatFix.htm

The difference is these shims are already shaved to zero tolerance (I hope) and the shortened torx bit will definitely come in handy.

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Are these "new" shims better than the stock OEM shims or will these also wear down?

The other do it yourself solution is to use shaved nylon washers.
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Originally Posted by MSG C5
Are these "new" shims better than the stock OEM shims or will these also wear down?

The other do it yourself solution is to use shaved nylon washers.

Well the OEM shims are caused the problem.

I went the shaved nylon washer and it fixed the seat rocking. I'm sure these shims are just as good if not better than the nylon shim route.
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Originally Posted by Toque
I have had my 04 Z06 5 years now. The passenger seat has been used about 10 times total in 5 years. My wife said a month ago when she was in it that her passenger seat rocks when I stop or acceletate.

I thought your fix was for power drivers seat ? Or is it for manual passenger seats also ? My power seat (knock on wood) is not rocking.

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Since this normally happened to the driver's seat, the kit was for an electrical seat. I'm not 100% sure how it would work on a manual seat.

Originally Posted by stevedun
Do the seats still have to be fully removed to install these?
Yes the seat has to be removed.

Originally Posted by MSG C5
Are these "new" shims better than the stock OEM shims or will these also wear down?

The other do it yourself solution is to use shaved nylon washers.
These are self lubricating plastic like delrin.

Hope that helps!
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These are self lubricating plastic like delrin.

Hope that helps! [/QUOTE]

Hey, keep it clean! This is a family site!
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Not to hijack your thread OP, but has anybody thought about using some aluminum washers or something more durable than plastic or nylon?

Mine is bad in my driver seat, and I am going to fix it but I'm gonna wait until I decide on what to do about seats. When I decide on covers or redoing my seats I will do the fix then.
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Nice to see a product that is designed to address the rocking seat issue.
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What kind of instal difficulty are we looking at here? the other post with the nylon washers looked very intense. Any one go with these yet?
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This thread is also running in the C5 Tech Forum and has more answers and the install procedures. I picked up a set and will try to install them next month when home.

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Originally Posted by MSG C5
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Originally Posted by drew47000000
What kind of instal difficulty are we looking at here? the other post with the nylon washers looked very intense. Any one go with these yet?
From 1-5 (5 being the hardest) its about a 1.
Here are the instructions
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1997-2004 (C5) Seat Track Repair Shim Kit (For Electric Seats)

Installation Instructions

Tools Required:

#1 Flat Blade Screwdriver
Tack Remover
3/8” Drive Ratchet
3/8” Drive 6” Or Longer Extension
15mm Socket
Provided Special Combination T25 & T40 Torx Bit Tool

1. Move seat to the reward position
2. Use a tack remover to remove the heads of the plastic retaining push pins that secure the front seat track covers (2). Simply push the tack remover behind the pin head and gently pry outward. This will expose the front seat track bolts.
3. Remove the two front seat track bolts using a 15mm socket
4. Move seat to the full forward position and remove the (2) seat track bolts using a 15mm socket
5. Move seat reward to approximately center of the tracks
6. Raise seat height up as far as it will rise
7. Lift seat on the outward side high enough to disconnect the electrical pigtail from the power supply lead using a #1 screwdriver to release the snap tab
8. Lift seat out of car being careful not to hit any interior parts
9. With the seat on a workbench, seat track facing towards you, remove the wire retainer where you disconnected power from the seat by bowing center of plate removing one end at a time to expose the (2) Torx bolts
10. Remove both Torx bolts using the provided T25 Torx bit
11. On the top side, at the rear of the seat track, find the large bolt with the T40 Torx head and remove it with the supplied tool. This will allow the drive gear and the caged nut to be removed from the rear end of the seat track
12. Slide the seat track back at the front of the seat track and remove the transmission cable by pulling towards the rear of the seat track. This will insure the cable is not lost
13. With the drive gear out you can now see why your seat was sliding forward and reward because the soft plastic shims in the caged nut have deteriorated
14. Unthread the drive gear from the caged nut housing so that you can remove the nut and old shims from the housing (Note: the nut is peaked on the top side and “must” be reinstalled in this position)
15. With the caged nut and shims removed, clean out the cage using the #1 screwdriver to loosen any old material that might remain
16. Reinstall the caged nut with the peaked side of the nut toward you and install the new shims on each side of the caged nut (the shims fit snugly, but are easily pushed in by hand)
17. Rethread caged nut housing back onto drive gear approximately 1/3 of the way down the gear
18. Now slide the drive gear and caged nut housing back into the seat track from the rear keeping in mind the orientation of the caged nut so the drive gear bolts are in the correct position while making sure to slide the drive gear into the guide at the front of the seat track. Do not install the transmission cable at this point
19. Loosely install T40 Torx head bolt back into the drive gear at the rear of the seat track
20. Line up seat track with caged nut bolt holes and note that both halves of the seat track should be even with one another at the front. You may have to remove the drive gear again to achieve this alignment. Once the seat track is even slide the drive gear back and at this time replace the transmission cable. Next install the T25 and T40 Torx head bolts and tighten. It is CRITICAL THAT THE LEFT AND RIGHT SEAT TRACKS ARE EVEN WITH ONE ANOTHER AFTER INSTALLATION
21. Replace wiring retainer by inserting one end and bowing the middle to insert the opposite end
22. Repeat these basic steps for all seat tracks




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Originally Posted by J S Machine
Mine is bad in my driver seat, and I am going to fix it but I'm gonna wait until I decide on what to do about seats. When I decide on covers or redoing my seats I will do the fix then.
Thats what I did...I did both seats as they were equally as bad despite the fact I hardly ever had a passenger for the first 8 years

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Did they make a manual seat for the drivers side C-5?
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Nice kit, I'll probably be placing an order soon.

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