twobit

here is my new harness install

Sick Z06

What Bar is that?

Looks great man!

GeorgeZNJ

Please do not take this the wrong way, but that install is dangerous. They're supposed to wrap around the thick, larger part of the bar. And without the belts passing through the seat, they can and will slip off of the sides of your shoulders and you could be thrown through the windshield. I have the same belts, and bar, but I converted my Z06 seats to a pass through style seat. You can but the parts or have them done for you. Please be safe.
Seat conversions sold/installed here...www.eastcoastsupercharging.com

BlackZ06

Looks like a Brey Krause bar ..... they are excellent ....

http://www.bkauto.com/

OP has the shoulder belts installed on the bar incorrectly. The belts are supposed to wrap around the MAIN bar, those little metal "guides" are there to keep the belts from sliding along the bar. He needs to take the end of each belt, feed it between the guide and the main bar, continue around the main bar, and then into the buckle that secures the belt.

The way he has it installed those guides will rip off and leave him with no protection.

Also, I see no "anti-submarine" protection .... or maybe he just hasn't installed the last belt ..... the BK mounts are set-up to allow the installation of a 6 point belt system.

froggy47

Do not drive the car with the belts on like that, VERY DANGEROUS.

Also, if you don't plan on changing the seats to ones with pass thru holes, you need to have something going across the chest to hold the straps over the shoulder, together. Even with that, not ideal.

4 point belts will not be allowed on any track I have been on. Maybe you can get an anti sub to add. Sorry for the fyi twobit. Modding, it's a learning process & we have your best interest (life?) in mind.

Milan

You will not pass any technical inspection with your harnesses mounted like that. The part that you have them on will break instantly in a collision...not only that but you are relying on welds to save your life

AU N EGL

Harness must be installed correctly or they are dangorious.

1. the harness is wrapped about the BIG bar, not the little guild loop.


2. Shoulder harness must go though the seat back not around the sides and not over the top


3. Sub belts come up though the seat bottom or between the seat bottom and seat back.

Your on the right track, just make a few adjustments.

ZO6 Lee

with the guys who posted. Be safe.

Big Kidd

This needs to be corrected!! Be safe.

twobit

thank you all for your input and suport!!! i will correct this now.i have done some drag racing in the past.with nitrous forced induction ect. but with my new zo6 i wanted to go safty first.also i cant seen to get this car down the track.with my old 2006 gto with 150 shot of nitrous i was getting 60' times at 1.7 and in the 7's in the 1/8.

Bristol

Take a look at this product as a alternative to modifying your seats so that your seat belts go thought the seat. It seem to accomplish the objective and is one heck of a lot cheaper than new seats. "The dickstrap"

ttp://www.koolmat.com/race.shtml

Any opinions out there????

BlackZ06

Bristol,

Hard to tell from that picture, but that sounds like what I use .....

http://www.pyrotect.com/product.php?...&cat=20&page=1

In my opinion this is an OK solution for an HPDE. For racing I'd go with the correct seats, either the Corvette sport seats, or race seats such as Recaro, etc.

Bristol

Yes, that seems to be the idea. are you currently using this product?

BlackZ06

Yes, I use this because I have the "stock" Z06 seats, which don't allow the belts to correctly fit over my shoulders. As I said in an earlier post ... I use this for HPDEs ... not racing. If I was racing I'd install correct seats, and add a HANS device to the set-up.

This Pyrotect product works well for me ..... it is adjustable as to how far apart it keeps the belts, and uses a huge area of velcro so that it seems unlikely that even under extreme conditions the velcro will seperate. The entire back of one pad is velcro, and the way it is set up your weight will actually press against the velcro in an "incident" making for a darn strong bond.

I like the product ... for what that is worth ....

FasterIsBetter

Just as an aside, don't use the racing harnesses on the street. First of all, they are not DOT approved for street use, so you can get a ticket for no seatbelts if you are using them. More importantly, they are not designed to work with your airbag. Use your stock seatbelt when driving on the street. Only use the harness at the track.

Plus, agree with all the other comments you got here. Four point belts are dangerous. You should at least have a 5 point belt setup.

AlwaysInBoost

anyone have info on four point belts that have a single breakaway belt on the shoulder? I've heard that with a belt setup like that, with one belt that will "breakaway" on impact, there is much less chance of sliding under the belts.

briann510

Rules at most if not all tracks this year require all harnesses to pass though the seat backs and not around.

FasterIsBetter

I never heard of that, but I don't see what having a breakaway shoulder harness would accomplish. If you are going on the track, you should have a HANS device. For the HANS to work, the shoulder harnesses MUST be securely fastened, pass through holes in the seat and stay in place on impact. Frankly, I'd rather just use the stock seat belts and depend on the air bag system rather than fool around with a four point harness, especially one with a breakaway shoulder piece.

My opinion, YMMV.

twobit

wow i did not expect to start this heavy of a topic.any way i fixed the problem.ill tell you that when you are straped in you do feel safe and secure and defenitly planted in your seat.next install (EJECTION SEAT)

AU N EGL

4 point belts are NOT DOT LEGAL except for the BMW Mini. NO track or club will allow 4 point belts at all. so dont even bother with them.

Break Away on impact? All belts will stretch up to 25% on impact. But guess what? your body does not.