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Old 04-29-2007, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Ugh... so much misinformation.

*If you want a faster vert then mod it.
I'm getting there.
Old 04-29-2007, 11:43 PM
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I read somwhere that there is one convertable Z06 built for John Cafaro.
Old 04-30-2007, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
He's right that the C5 was designed for both coupe and convertible from day one. That's why there's only a very few light extra pieces of bracing used on the convertible.
Actually... there are no "exta" parts... The coupe has the B-pillar roll bar/hoop part than can be seen below:



The vert looses this roll hoop and instead has a cross brace that goes just under where the tonneau cover and deck lid mount and hinge from.

The C5 convertible is actually 10 or 15 pounds lighter than the coupe

Originally Posted by 02MillenniumVette
Is that why there was no convertible in '97?
Marketing... the car was so new and so fresh they focused on the one car, then released the vert in '98 to continue the feeding frenzy... smart.

Originally Posted by RockyL32
I read somwhere that there is one convertable Z06 built for John Cafaro.
I don't think so... but not 100%. Need to go to caravaggio for the targa or vert Z06.

The point I'm trying to make is that this has NOTHING to do with frame "twist" of "flex". Your C5 has one of the best chassis' on the planet... they're amazing and they really don't flex... even in convertible configuration.

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Old 04-30-2007, 12:46 PM
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The C5 frame is 4 1/2 times more rigid than previous frames.
The C5 is designed around a convertable frame.

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Old 04-30-2007, 12:55 PM
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Why would anyone want to do this to the ZO6? Then again, it would be original and VERY unique! I just love the CORVETTE!
Old 04-30-2007, 07:17 PM
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[QUOTE=Cobra4B;1560033587]I don't think so... but not 100%. Need to go to caravaggio for the targa or vert Z06.

John Cafaro was one of the main designers of the C5 it was a COPO
Old 04-30-2007, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jbondfl
I thought of that but the Z06 is a Race Car. Just without the C5R headlights. That is what sets it apart. Seems like if you put the same engine and suspension in a vert (which I doubt would be a problem), or coupe the the Z06 wouldn't even exist. What would be the point?
Race Car? With all due respect the ZO6 is not a race car. I doubt they share many parts. UH...there is more difference than the headlights. My blown 427 C-5 makes over 800 rwhp. If there is flex I dont feel it. It must be a marketing thing.

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Old 04-30-2007, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Ugh... so much misinformation.

*C5 were designed to be verts from the start... chassis is very strong, no additional bracing needed
*No issues w/ frame "twist"
*Z06 is meant to be a tack car
*If you want a faster vert then mod it.


apaprently noone here has been in a 700 HP vert
Old 04-30-2007, 11:14 PM
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Thers is a C5 Z06 here in central California that was converted to a retractable hard top by www.coachbuildersltd.com in Florida. It is very expensive. If anyone went to Gamblers Classic Corvette Show in Laughlin,NV in March, it was there. Torch Red w/black rims. You loose use of the entire trunk with top down. They will also make one from a vert C5 or C6.
Old 04-30-2007, 11:21 PM
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I could do that! Easy.

NOT.
Old 05-01-2007, 12:33 AM
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The Z06 evolved from the FRC chassis which was designed specifically to be the lighter, stronger, cheaper The stripped-down racer model.

It did not sell well as they hoped. Simple IMO b/c it was still too much $.

So when they wanted to build a "quasi-track day car" the FRC was the natural choice economically and the obvious embodiment of the Z06 design goals, of "Fast and Light".

Besides, I find that majority of corvette owners tend to be the of the "waxer" rather than the "boy-racer" types. The Waxers who care about T-tops and Convertibles wouldn't dare sacrifice the comfort levels required to get to a track-day spec. You don't see any convertibles GT3's either for this reason. The C5 Z06 isn't quite as spartan and aggressively setup as the GT3 as GM was just testing the water for this concept.

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Old 05-01-2007, 12:55 AM
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:15 AM
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http://www.phantomz06.com/z06/project_purpose.htm

there you go
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Originally Posted by msb184
Race Car? With all due respect the ZO6 is not a race car. I doubt they share many parts. UH...there is more difference than the headlights. My blown 427 C-5 makes over 800 rwhp. If there is flex I dont feel it. It must be a marketing thing.
No... it's not a "race car", but it's a factory delivered track day car. It really needs no mods to go out and tear up a race track. Lowering, allignment, and stickey tires and it'll run w/ the best of them.

Originally Posted by dagon138
The Z06 evolved from the FRC chassis which was designed specifically to be the lighter, stronger, cheaper The stripped-down racer model.

It did not sell well as they hoped. Simple IMO b/c it was still too much $.

So when they wanted to build a "quasi-track day car" the FRC was the natural choice economically and the obvious embodiment of the Z06 design goals, of "Fast and Light".

Besides, I find that majority of corvette owners tend to be the of the "waxer" rather than the "boy-racer" types. The Waxers who care about T-tops and Convertibles wouldn't dare sacrifice the comfort levels required to get to a track-day spec. You don't see any convertibles GT3's either for this reason. The C5 Z06 isn't quite as spartan and aggressively setup as the GT3 as GM was just testing the water for this concept.
Exactly... The Z06 is the HPDE model... it will not be offered as a vert. Porsche doesn't offer the GT-3 as a vert. If you want a fast vert there are plenty of people willing to take your money to make a vert fast or chop the roof off of a Z06.
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Ugh... so much misinformation.

*C5 were designed to be verts from the start... chassis is very strong, no additional bracing needed
*No issues w/ frame "twist"
*Z06 is meant to be a tack car
*If you want a faster vert then mod it.
IMFORMATION #1 agree #2 agree #3 Z06 is indeed a fast car, but racing hay bales is not reeeeely racing is it? #4 I DID. dyno very soon! C-5R ,F1-C Procharger,Jesel,Callies,JE,Crane, ET 265 cc heads and 2 stages of spray. Rossler trans brake,Mark Williams axles,shafts. Sooooo..... that covers #4
Old 05-03-2007, 02:45 AM
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Default National Corvette Museum......

Check out the National Corvette Museum websitehttp://www.corvettemuseum.com/index.shtml and go to the specs/downloads section for reliable /viable information such as ;
The convertable for '01 was only (4) pounds lighter than the coupe, then of course the ZO6 just under 100 pounds lighter at 3115#s , which put the ZO6 38 pounds lighter than the previous '99,'00 C5 hardtops. I did not know that.
The C5 was designed to be a convertable, which didn't come out untill the next year. '99 brought out the FRC which became the lightest , stiffest and fastest Vette available. According to Bob Wallace the C5 ZO6 chassis is 13% more rigid than either the coupe or convertable. The Corvette Team indicated right from begining that the hardtop would be the platform for further performance dimensions in the form of the ZO6. The FE4 suspension is a suspension all its own.
Very interesting reading, for sure.
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Originally Posted by msb184
#3 Z06 is indeed a fast car, but racing hay bales is not reeeeely racing is it?
What are you talking about? The Z06 is designed for the amateur driver who wants to participate in HPDE events w/ the car as is off the showroom floor. It is a fantastic car as it sits from the factory.

With a few tweaks it will outrun most anything on track under $150,000.
Old 05-03-2007, 09:08 AM
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If they made a convertible Z06 I'd have one. But since they don't I have to settle for a Z06 suspended 500RWHP vert.
Not trying to be a Z06 but did take the best parts of one and added a ton more HP.




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