Help! im all jacked up and no idea on which way to with the oil pan drain plug
10-09-2005, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Freestyler
Thanks to the esteemed veterans of the forum for the quick reply's.
(QikStik, DeeGee - that was funny! lol, GLOC, blindfingers, Markcz..)
as to the other negative posters all i can really say is ....
So, its much easier to simply ask for advise before ATTEMPING to loosen it
You will also see that I my belief is correct (counter clockwise)
And you should have picked up that I am not from 'this country' ... this doesnt mean that im an idiot, i can turn a nut on anything nearby (corvette or otherwise, of course they loosen to counterclockwise) , but given its importance, and the role it plays in keeping your vehicle running!!, i didnt think it imprudent to confirm the direction ..
(search reverse thread on google youll get over 300,000 hits, clearly there are some SPECIALIZED applications , hey look bicycle's are in that group, didnt someone say something about bikes?!)
The Really Stupid thing to do would have been to simply charge on and force it in one direction (possibly with dire consequences)
advising me to 'step away from the car' . .. .. thats annoying
i do see i titled the thread 'i have no idea' ... this was perhaps skewed titling to garner quick responses (which thankfully, i received)
returning to the detractors:
I can happily admit that havent logged hundreds of hours under a car, but I have done oil changes (on other cars), pulled out dashboards installed new heater cores, stereo systems (and oil filters lol) and trivial stuff like that
In my defense (tho it shouldnt be needed), i havent owned a car for 5 years. Living in London you take the tube EVERYWHERE (sorry , SUBWAY) ... so what? im a bit rusty. big deal. I Asked... i am happy to ask rather than pay later.
I am a systems engineer, and earn a decent living fixing network and systems problems because 'users' thought AFTER ACTING
User: "my computer wont start"
Me: do anything different on the machine lately?
"Oh, i didnt know what those files were in the 'windows' folder, i dont use them, ... so i , err, deleted them"
Me: actually they do have a use, the operating system requires them to start the pc up, thats what displays the desktop you see normally..
User: (it got worse) 'oh right, i know that, thats why i just deleted the files that didnt have an 'icon' associated with them....
or the guy that says "im a computer person, i earn a living just like you , hey i want to buy a new computer, and i have a router already installed, what do i do to the firewall on the router, how do i program it to block spam and virus's"
"or the USER who asks 'hey how do install a driver' "
I dont tell them 'back away from the computer you fcking idiot' i just fix it for them and come ALONG SIDE them work WITH them to get it resolved, so they come out with a greater appreciation for the machine...
(QikStik, DeeGee - that was funny! lol, GLOC, blindfingers, Markcz..)
as to the other negative posters all i can really say is ....
So, its much easier to simply ask for advise before ATTEMPING to loosen it
You will also see that I my belief is correct (counter clockwise)
And you should have picked up that I am not from 'this country' ... this doesnt mean that im an idiot, i can turn a nut on anything nearby (corvette or otherwise, of course they loosen to counterclockwise) , but given its importance, and the role it plays in keeping your vehicle running!!, i didnt think it imprudent to confirm the direction ..
(search reverse thread on google youll get over 300,000 hits, clearly there are some SPECIALIZED applications , hey look bicycle's are in that group, didnt someone say something about bikes?!)
The Really Stupid thing to do would have been to simply charge on and force it in one direction (possibly with dire consequences)
advising me to 'step away from the car' . .. .. thats annoying
i do see i titled the thread 'i have no idea' ... this was perhaps skewed titling to garner quick responses (which thankfully, i received)
returning to the detractors:
I can happily admit that havent logged hundreds of hours under a car, but I have done oil changes (on other cars), pulled out dashboards installed new heater cores, stereo systems (and oil filters lol) and trivial stuff like that
In my defense (tho it shouldnt be needed), i havent owned a car for 5 years. Living in London you take the tube EVERYWHERE (sorry , SUBWAY) ... so what? im a bit rusty. big deal. I Asked... i am happy to ask rather than pay later.
I am a systems engineer, and earn a decent living fixing network and systems problems because 'users' thought AFTER ACTING
User: "my computer wont start"
Me: do anything different on the machine lately?
"Oh, i didnt know what those files were in the 'windows' folder, i dont use them, ... so i , err, deleted them"
Me: actually they do have a use, the operating system requires them to start the pc up, thats what displays the desktop you see normally..
User: (it got worse) 'oh right, i know that, thats why i just deleted the files that didnt have an 'icon' associated with them....
or the guy that says "im a computer person, i earn a living just like you , hey i want to buy a new computer, and i have a router already installed, what do i do to the firewall on the router, how do i program it to block spam and virus's"
"or the USER who asks 'hey how do install a driver' "
I dont tell them 'back away from the computer you fcking idiot' i just fix it for them and come ALONG SIDE them work WITH them to get it resolved, so they come out with a greater appreciation for the machine...
10-09-2005, 10:59 AM
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This thread will be closed if it gets ugly.. which it might but...
In 25 some plus years of working with computers and such.. I've always been smart enough to call in the professionals when I needed to do something over my head... and that has ranged from a $250,000 machining center to a $500 computer...
I've never dumped a windows file that was needed, changed a parameter that I shouldn't have or whatever... However, I've done some stupid stuff on cars that I had to do again and again... I used to say that on my first truck I owned, I fixed EVERYTHING two or three times...
Freestyler... It was how you asked the question that scared so many of us to say back away... You didn't say you were an "expert that needed a little simple advice..." Forgive us for thinking you were an idi...
Oh I better stop....
Happy Sunday...
In 25 some plus years of working with computers and such.. I've always been smart enough to call in the professionals when I needed to do something over my head... and that has ranged from a $250,000 machining center to a $500 computer...
I've never dumped a windows file that was needed, changed a parameter that I shouldn't have or whatever... However, I've done some stupid stuff on cars that I had to do again and again... I used to say that on my first truck I owned, I fixed EVERYTHING two or three times...
Freestyler... It was how you asked the question that scared so many of us to say back away... You didn't say you were an "expert that needed a little simple advice..." Forgive us for thinking you were an idi...
Oh I better stop....
Happy Sunday...
10-09-2005, 02:16 PM
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I don't blame him for asking, they do drive down the wrong side of the street over there so maybe the turn wrenches the wrong way as well sometimes. 
10-09-2005, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Freestyler
Thanks to the esteemed veterans of the forum for the quick reply's.
(QikStik, DeeGee - that was funny! lol, GLOC, blindfingers, Markcz..)
(QikStik, DeeGee - that was funny! lol, GLOC, blindfingers, Markcz..)
10-09-2005, 07:27 PM
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We all have a lot of dumb questions, some of which become pretty intelligent ones. And Lordy, I remember when I first started tinkering.
But you folks from the UK drive on the wrong side of the road, and drive from the wrong side of the car. I still cann't figure out how you do that.
You can still get great advice on this forum.
But you folks from the UK drive on the wrong side of the road, and drive from the wrong side of the car. I still cann't figure out how you do that.
You can still get great advice on this forum.
10-10-2005, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bennettrp
We all have a lot of dumb questions, some of which become pretty intelligent ones. And Lordy, I remember when I first started tinkering.
But you folks from the UK drive on the wrong side of the road, and drive from the wrong side of the car. I still cann't figure out how you do that.
You can still get great advice on this forum.
But you folks from the UK drive on the wrong side of the road, and drive from the wrong side of the car. I still cann't figure out how you do that.
You can still get great advice on this forum.
Oh and by the way, I used to drive my left hand drive Camaro in UK. Now thats a real challenge.
10-10-2005, 08:15 AM
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Perhaps its not so dumb. I once answered a question on C4 tech, how to remove the power steering fluid cap....?
Guess what - it's a left hand thread, and nobody seemed to know why.
Can happen.
Guess what - it's a left hand thread, and nobody seemed to know why.
Can happen.
10-10-2005, 10:27 AM
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Thread Starter
cbx1047cc
it was an analytical comparison - i was bummed to be catching flack from the johnnycomelatelybrigade not so much for being a complete novice (as i have stated, i havent logged hundreds of hours under a car) , but to say , 'if you dont know which way to turn the bolt, you dont deserve to be under there, you are your own worst enemy, ' rankled me
the inferrence was that i was asking AFTER , i wasnt, i was doublechecking BEFORE i began
and similarly, wanted to illustrate that i dont belittle or berate computer users non technical - when they come to me with issues
vvrooom2 Cheers fella, im over it, and i still dont see now double checking about a direction on a thread (just to be safe) means i am over my head.
I dont pretend to think having changed oil means i can swap out cams, nor do i think wanting to ask for clarification makes me in need of professionals in this instance.... FOR a Drain Plug call.
'how i asked the question' -- yeah, like i said, i suppose i worded the thread somewhat badly
'expert that needed simple advise' - lol, lets make it clear
I AM NO CAR Expert, - but if i was, then i suppose i wouldnt need simple advise now would I?
StephenT -thanks!
lol - you would be surprised at how many things are different to you americans... (lol) ... for starters,(in Australia) the water in the toilet circles in the opposite direction when flushing..... , the date oct 9th 2005 is not 10/9/2005 but 9/10/2005, ...
Markcz - Cheers fella appreciate it
Bennettrp
right - ! cheers for that, i agree this forum is the best,i love it because its a largely positive place to hang out And invaluable ... and it may well have been (to some) a dumb question, but im glad i asked - before putting spanner to plug
- i guess thats my bone of contention, there isnt a need to chastise people for asking questions that seem 'stupid' to more experienced people (as I tried to show, i come against messups all the time from computer users..) - just come along side, as the vetterans did in the first hour of the thread, help .. and everyone can move on, progress and grow
mvvette97 - cheers fella
DeeGee - thanks mate , and a camaro in the UK, now that would have been awesome! and unique!
BritVette - Thank You!!
there are all sorts of reverse thread applications (like i mentioned google reverse thread -over 300,000 hits)
in most cases if you twist the head off because you 'got it wrong' you can drill it out, use a tap and create a new thread in a larger diameter
... on an oil pan, im thinking this is not an application to get wrong in the first place
Peace Everyone, with thanks
FreeStyler
it was an analytical comparison - i was bummed to be catching flack from the johnnycomelatelybrigade not so much for being a complete novice (as i have stated, i havent logged hundreds of hours under a car) , but to say , 'if you dont know which way to turn the bolt, you dont deserve to be under there, you are your own worst enemy, ' rankled me
the inferrence was that i was asking AFTER , i wasnt, i was doublechecking BEFORE i began
and similarly, wanted to illustrate that i dont belittle or berate computer users non technical - when they come to me with issues
vvrooom2 Cheers fella, im over it, and i still dont see now double checking about a direction on a thread (just to be safe) means i am over my head.
I dont pretend to think having changed oil means i can swap out cams, nor do i think wanting to ask for clarification makes me in need of professionals in this instance.... FOR a Drain Plug call.
'how i asked the question' -- yeah, like i said, i suppose i worded the thread somewhat badly
'expert that needed simple advise' - lol, lets make it clear
I AM NO CAR Expert, - but if i was, then i suppose i wouldnt need simple advise now would I?
StephenT -thanks!
lol - you would be surprised at how many things are different to you americans... (lol) ... for starters,(in Australia) the water in the toilet circles in the opposite direction when flushing..... , the date oct 9th 2005 is not 10/9/2005 but 9/10/2005, ...
Markcz - Cheers fella appreciate it
Bennettrp
right - ! cheers for that, i agree this forum is the best,i love it because its a largely positive place to hang out And invaluable ... and it may well have been (to some) a dumb question, but im glad i asked - before putting spanner to plug
- i guess thats my bone of contention, there isnt a need to chastise people for asking questions that seem 'stupid' to more experienced people (as I tried to show, i come against messups all the time from computer users..) - just come along side, as the vetterans did in the first hour of the thread, help .. and everyone can move on, progress and grow
mvvette97 - cheers fella
DeeGee - thanks mate , and a camaro in the UK, now that would have been awesome! and unique!
BritVette - Thank You!!
there are all sorts of reverse thread applications (like i mentioned google reverse thread -over 300,000 hits)
in most cases if you twist the head off because you 'got it wrong' you can drill it out, use a tap and create a new thread in a larger diameter
... on an oil pan, im thinking this is not an application to get wrong in the first place
Peace Everyone, with thanks
FreeStyler
Last edited by Freestyler; 10-10-2005 at 10:30 AM.
10-12-2005, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Blindfingers
counterclockwise as you look directly at the plug.
10-13-2005, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Freestyler
Thanks to the esteemed veterans of the forum for the quick reply's.
(QikStik, DeeGee - that was funny! lol, GLOC, blindfingers, Markcz..)
as to the other negative posters all i can really say is ....
So, its much easier to simply ask for advise before ATTEMPING to loosen it
You will also see that I my belief is correct (counter clockwise)
And you should have picked up that I am not from 'this country' ... this doesnt mean that im an idiot, i can turn a nut on anything nearby (corvette or otherwise, of course they loosen to counterclockwise) , but given its importance, and the role it plays in keeping your vehicle running!!, i didnt think it imprudent to confirm the direction ..
(search reverse thread on google youll get over 300,000 hits, clearly there are some SPECIALIZED applications , hey look bicycle's are in that group, didnt someone say something about bikes?!)
The Really Stupid thing to do would have been to simply charge on and force it in one direction (possibly with dire consequences)
advising me to 'step away from the car' . .. .. thats annoying
i do see i titled the thread 'i have no idea' ... this was perhaps skewed titling to garner quick responses (which thankfully, i received)
returning to the detractors:
I can happily admit that havent logged hundreds of hours under a car, but I have done oil changes (on other cars), pulled out dashboards installed new heater cores, stereo systems (and oil filters lol) and trivial stuff like that
In my defense (tho it shouldnt be needed), i havent owned a car for 5 years. Living in London you take the tube EVERYWHERE (sorry , SUBWAY) ... so what? im a bit rusty. big deal. I Asked... i am happy to ask rather than pay later.
I am a systems engineer, and earn a decent living fixing network and systems problems because 'users' thought AFTER ACTING
User: "my computer wont start"
Me: do anything different on the machine lately?
"Oh, i didnt know what those files were in the 'windows' folder, i dont use them, ... so i , err, deleted them"
Me: actually they do have a use, the operating system requires them to start the pc up, thats what displays the desktop you see normally..
User: (it got worse) 'oh right, i know that, thats why i just deleted the files that didnt have an 'icon' associated with them....
or the guy that says "im a computer person, i earn a living just like you , hey i want to buy a new computer, and i have a router already installed, what do i do to the firewall on the router, how do i program it to block spam and virus's"
"or the USER who asks 'hey how do install a driver' "
I dont tell them 'back away from the computer you fcking idiot' i just fix it for them and come ALONG SIDE them work WITH them to get it resolved, so they come out with a greater appreciation for the machine...
(QikStik, DeeGee - that was funny! lol, GLOC, blindfingers, Markcz..)
as to the other negative posters all i can really say is ....
So, its much easier to simply ask for advise before ATTEMPING to loosen it
You will also see that I my belief is correct (counter clockwise)
And you should have picked up that I am not from 'this country' ... this doesnt mean that im an idiot, i can turn a nut on anything nearby (corvette or otherwise, of course they loosen to counterclockwise) , but given its importance, and the role it plays in keeping your vehicle running!!, i didnt think it imprudent to confirm the direction ..
(search reverse thread on google youll get over 300,000 hits, clearly there are some SPECIALIZED applications , hey look bicycle's are in that group, didnt someone say something about bikes?!)
The Really Stupid thing to do would have been to simply charge on and force it in one direction (possibly with dire consequences)
advising me to 'step away from the car' . .. .. thats annoying
i do see i titled the thread 'i have no idea' ... this was perhaps skewed titling to garner quick responses (which thankfully, i received)
returning to the detractors:
I can happily admit that havent logged hundreds of hours under a car, but I have done oil changes (on other cars), pulled out dashboards installed new heater cores, stereo systems (and oil filters lol) and trivial stuff like that
In my defense (tho it shouldnt be needed), i havent owned a car for 5 years. Living in London you take the tube EVERYWHERE (sorry , SUBWAY) ... so what? im a bit rusty. big deal. I Asked... i am happy to ask rather than pay later.
I am a systems engineer, and earn a decent living fixing network and systems problems because 'users' thought AFTER ACTING
User: "my computer wont start"
Me: do anything different on the machine lately?
"Oh, i didnt know what those files were in the 'windows' folder, i dont use them, ... so i , err, deleted them"
Me: actually they do have a use, the operating system requires them to start the pc up, thats what displays the desktop you see normally..
User: (it got worse) 'oh right, i know that, thats why i just deleted the files that didnt have an 'icon' associated with them....
or the guy that says "im a computer person, i earn a living just like you , hey i want to buy a new computer, and i have a router already installed, what do i do to the firewall on the router, how do i program it to block spam and virus's"
"or the USER who asks 'hey how do install a driver' "
I dont tell them 'back away from the computer you fcking idiot' i just fix it for them and come ALONG SIDE them work WITH them to get it resolved, so they come out with a greater appreciation for the machine...
this is how off asking how to get the drain plug is. something you should have learned on your first bike as a kid. if you dont knowhow, yes that is ok, but maybe you should be trying some **** out on something other than your car. or get an assistant, or pay someone with your "decent" living you make, or do a search for it.
10-13-2005, 05:42 PM
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something you should have learned on your first bike as a kid. if you dont knowhow, yes that is ok, but maybe you should be trying some **** out on something other than your car. or get an assistant, or pay someone with your "decent" living you make, or do a search for it
my point wasnt to brag about earning power but to say
rather than being obnoxious and arrogant why not just help and then move on>?
something you should have learned on your first bike as a kid
im not even bothered with the first quote, it only re-enforces my point -- why be so fcjkin arrogant when someone asks for help? if you had asked me about that cable, i would have just helped. not tried to rub your face in ... agian and again and again as you seem intent upon doing
