ZR1 trans/Diff in a C5 info
#24
Racer
That’s weird. I don’t think the swap pushed my tire as far back in the wheel well as yours. My wheel is favored to the rear though and with the 28” slicks I had to clearance the back of the wheel well liner.
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#26
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Yes a had a C5Z M12 before, it's just too aggressive for what I do, i was designed for a 400hp n/a track car after all
the ME2 has a 2.26 first, MH3 2.29 base/C6Z 2.66, M12 2.97
so coming from an M12, the ZR1 gearing sounds way too long in my head, but now in the real world. i think it MH3 is perfect, and I wouldnt be against the ME2 either.
the ME2 has a 2.26 first, MH3 2.29 base/C6Z 2.66, M12 2.97
so coming from an M12, the ZR1 gearing sounds way too long in my head, but now in the real world. i think it MH3 is perfect, and I wouldnt be against the ME2 either.
#27
Drifting
Hell of a race! I have the same tire on my car. It seems to be good when they are nice and warm. Spins a little at other times. I am procharged not turbo though. I also have a c6z tr6060
#28
#30
Racer
Just an FYI if your looking for a mounting solution you can get a late model subframe and use the stock diff mounts. I used the sub frame out of a zr1 and the stock diff mounts would have worked fine in the second set of wholes. I used the RKT mounts because I already had them and the stocks were ripped.
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#31
Just an FYI if your looking for a mounting solution you can get a late model subframe and use the stock diff mounts. I used the sub frame out of a zr1 and the stock diff mounts would have worked fine in the second set of wholes. I used the RKT mounts because I already had them and the stocks were ripped.
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I wonder if the cradle is the factor that determines whether or not the wheels get pushed back... the cradle I used only has one set of mounting holes per side instead of 2 and I had to use rkt offset mounts, my wheels are pushed back just a tad but not near as bad as others I have seen... I am also using coilovers and stock c5z upper and lower lcas
#33
I wonder if the cradle is the factor that determines whether or not the wheels get pushed back... the cradle I used only has one set of mounting holes per side instead of 2 and I had to use rkt offset mounts, my wheels are pushed back just a tad but not near as bad as others I have seen... I am also using coilovers and stock c5z upper and lower lcas
I have the ZR1 dual mount cradle and stock C5 LCAs with coilovers. My understanding is that the C6 cradle requires the C6 LCA's if you retain the monospring. This setup moves your rear wheels back just over 1/2".
Using coilovers allows the use of the C5 LCA's which locates the rear wheels correctly.
#34
That said, I have seen stock C5s with the rear wheels way forward. I think those cars had excessive caster unless something was damaged in the rear.
Last edited by Millenium Z06; 09-08-2019 at 02:02 PM.
#35
Supporting Vendor
The 3 mounting points on the control arms between the C5's and 6's are exactly the same and changing from a C6 to a C5 control arm won't affect wheel placement at all. The difference is in the cradle mounting points.
#36
Racer
Many idea why some people seam to have the wheel pushed back further than others?
#37
Racer
I have the ZR1 dual mount cradle and stock C5 LCAs with coilovers. My understanding is that the C6 cradle requires the C6 LCA's if you retain the monospring. This setup moves your rear wheels back just over 1/2".
Using coilovers allows the use of the C5 LCA's which locates the rear wheels correctly.
Using coilovers allows the use of the C5 LCA's which locates the rear wheels correctly.
#38
#39
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Although the C5 rear cradle appears quite different from the C6 rear cradle, the four frame mounting points are identical, and the cradles are actually interchangeable between the C5 and C6 Corvettes.
And both of them may be used with our adapters.
However, there is one critical difference that builders utilizing either the C5 or the C6 IRS should be aware of. In 2005, with the advent of the C6, Chevrolet lengthened the wheelbase 1.2" (From 104.5" to 105.7".)
They accomplished this with a little tweek in the rear suspension geometry. The lower control arms and their mounts were moved enough to relocate the rear spindle 1.2" rearward. This is important to remember, especially when designing your rear frame and locating your axle centerline within your rear wheel opening.
Please note in the photo below: The 8.0" dimension is for the C5 and the 9.2" dimension is for the C6.
And both of them may be used with our adapters.
However, there is one critical difference that builders utilizing either the C5 or the C6 IRS should be aware of. In 2005, with the advent of the C6, Chevrolet lengthened the wheelbase 1.2" (From 104.5" to 105.7".)
They accomplished this with a little tweek in the rear suspension geometry. The lower control arms and their mounts were moved enough to relocate the rear spindle 1.2" rearward. This is important to remember, especially when designing your rear frame and locating your axle centerline within your rear wheel opening.
Please note in the photo below: The 8.0" dimension is for the C5 and the 9.2" dimension is for the C6.
Last edited by Millenium Z06; 09-08-2019 at 05:13 PM.
#40
Supporting Vendor
If we had the mounting scheme of the C6Z's, we could use spacers between the tie bars and mounting blocks. I'm actually considering cutting off the mounting ears, machining some blocks and welding them on some day so I can play. Too many irons in the fire at the moment so it'll have to wait for another day.
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