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Old 07-25-2014, 10:46 AM
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Hey guys, so I'm currently in the middle of piecing together a h/c/I for my 01 z06. I have the cam and fast manifold, I'm just waiting for the heads to be finished and assembled. They're ported/polished 243's with oversized valves and dual springs. As of late I've been tossing around the idea of going the boosted route instead though. I hear great things about the a&a kit, and was wondering if anyone has any input on the kit. I'm torn between keeping my plans or going the a&a route. Anyone who has tried both setups or has any input to help make my decision would be much appreciated! Obviously I know it's ultimately my choice, but before I spend all this money I want to feel like I made the right choice. This is mostly a weekend cruiser and only sees a few thousand miles a year with the occasional track day
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You come to the FI section and think we might advise against it? Supercharge it!
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You come to the FI section and think we might advise against it? Supercharge it!
Haha not hoping youd advise against it! Just want to hear a few opinions before I make a decision
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I've done both. I started with H/C/I....then added the S/C. If I could only do one.....I'd do the s/c with headers and meth.
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Originally Posted by tlove32
I've done both. I started with H/C/I....then added the S/C. If I could only do one.....I'd do the s/c with headers and meth.
Yeah I have headers on the way soon
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Depends on your goal. I ran my C5R block 427 NA for two years making around 520 RWHP, which had started to feel lame around the time the LS7 engined C6 Zs hit the street. I upgraded to an F1C Procharged setup and picked up 200+ RWHP, which put the smile back on my face.

If around 450-500 seems like enough, stick with Plan A. My guess: it won't make you happy for long.
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Originally Posted by sfc rick
You come to the FI section and think we might advise against it? Supercharge it!
Only thing to do to the motor is new V/springs in the heads if you more than 40,k on them. Then pin the crank...
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I wish I would have skipped the H/C/I and went right to blower...
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I like my H/C/I ... there are only a SELECT FEW

and still have a power adder if needed

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Originally Posted by marco383
Depends on your goal. I ran my C5R block 427 NA for two years making around 520 RWHP, which had started to feel lame around the time the LS7 engined C6 Zs hit the street. I upgraded to an F1C Procharged setup and picked up 200+ RWHP, which put the smile back on my face.

If around 450-500 seems like enough, stick with Plan A. My guess: it won't make you happy for long.
I'm looking for a 450-500 hp streetable car that still gets decent mileage and can be driven anywhere reliably
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Originally Posted by robert miller
Only thing to do to the motor is new V/springs in the heads if you more than 40,k on them. Then pin the crank...
60k on mine
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I'm at about 150,000 on mine know.
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Originally Posted by slow01z06
I'm looking for a 450-500 hp streetable car that still gets decent mileage and can be driven anywhere reliably
Stick with heads/cam... Especially for track days.. Not it mention more reliable... Put it together, tune it and forget it. Forced induction is not like that.
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Do both.
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I would consider one thing that no one has mentined yet...learning to drive your car. Since you have much invested into the H/C, why not finish the original plan, learn your car, ;earm thenew power, how to best drive it, and how to enjoy....then when the time comes and you want the next step, add a supercharger to what you have already done.

Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by Water_Walker
I would consider one thing that no one has mentined yet...learning to drive your car. Since you have much invested into the H/C, why not finish the original plan, learn your car, ;earm thenew power, how to best drive it, and how to enjoy....then when the time comes and you want the next step, add a supercharger to what you have already done.

Just a thought.
Every build starts with cam selection in mind. Then comp ratio. He needs a direction now or go 2 steps forward and 1 back. That being said, although I have a vortech, my twin turbo setup on my last car was by far more impressive. Although he has a small HP goal, we all have been there. That does not last long.
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My bad. I just realized he only wants bolt ons....
Sorry

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Originally Posted by slow01z06
I'm looking for a 450-500 hp streetable car that still gets decent mileage and can be driven anywhere reliably
Then stay as far away from FI as possible.

450-500 is easily doable via AFR 205 heads, long-tube headers, and a modest 224 cam.

Unless you're looking for 600+ I would stay far away from FI.

I have both a NA 427 combo for road racing and a twin turbo 346 for drag racing.

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I would go with a supercharger over H/C/I package as you'll get more HP, better MPG, and much better drivability. We've sold and installed WAY more superchargers than HCI for the reasons above. PLUS a supercharger is easier to install yourself than a HCI. If your interested in a supercharger give me a call and I'll give you a smoking price... and we offer 1 year 0% financing.
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Originally Posted by mdaniel
Then stay as far away from FI as possible.

450-500 is easily doable via AFR 205 heads, long-tube headers, and a modest 224 cam.

Unless you're looking for 600+ I would stay far away from FI.

I have both a NA 427 combo for road racing and a twin turbo 346 for drag racing.


I have this exact package. AFR 205 heads, headers, and a 224-228 cam. I have been extremely pleased with it. It is so reliable it's almost unbelievable. I've been running it for 10 years and have done nothing but change the oil and sparkplugs. I have made 100's of passes down the 1/4 mile typically running 123-124 mph.

I had a supercharged car in the past and there were a lot more maintenance/reliability issues to contend with. In my opinion at the 450-500 hp level H/C is the way to go.


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