Need new coolant pump for Maggie
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Need new coolant pump for Maggie
Pulled and tested my coolant pump today and it is dead. I have found a few pumps on the net anywhere from $1K to $80. I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a specific flowrate required from the pump. I haven't found any of them that list a flowrate, but didn't want to jump and buy the wrong thing. I don't see why the $80 Bosch pump won't work just as well as the $200 Motocraft or the $1K identical Bosch pump that failed. Any imput is much appreciated.
I did just notice the $80 Bosch is an Aux coolant pump. Not sure exactly what an Aux coolant pump is for? Is it not rated to run for long periods of time maybe? The Motocraft is a supercharger coolant pump, maybe I should go with that???
Also just noticed the Motocraft pump says "Bosch" on the pump.
The pump that failed is: Bosch (058)
PCA 12V
0 392 022 002
F8YH 8501 AA
FORD
I am thinking that somewhere in the numbers is a liter/min flowrate. I just don't know which number it is. Anyone???
I did just notice the $80 Bosch is an Aux coolant pump. Not sure exactly what an Aux coolant pump is for? Is it not rated to run for long periods of time maybe? The Motocraft is a supercharger coolant pump, maybe I should go with that???
Also just noticed the Motocraft pump says "Bosch" on the pump.
The pump that failed is: Bosch (058)
PCA 12V
0 392 022 002
F8YH 8501 AA
FORD
I am thinking that somewhere in the numbers is a liter/min flowrate. I just don't know which number it is. Anyone???
Last edited by Lt. Dan M.; 07-24-2014 at 08:46 PM.
#2
Burning Brakes
Mate , at least your getting somewhere.
See if I can find out anything .
I originally got an MP112 KIT , I then went TVS2300 .
So I do have a new pump if you get stuck , yeah its in the uk BUT
I will be in Florida around the 10th August , can bring it over and post it to you bud .
Also look at ford lightning performance parts ,think they have the same pump installed from factory.
See if I can find out anything .
I originally got an MP112 KIT , I then went TVS2300 .
So I do have a new pump if you get stuck , yeah its in the uk BUT
I will be in Florida around the 10th August , can bring it over and post it to you bud .
Also look at ford lightning performance parts ,think they have the same pump installed from factory.
#3
Le Mans Master
Although my car is an eforce car, not a Maggie, I would look at the Jabsco 50840-0012 pump. I changed the puny one the came with my kit for this. Better flow and a much more robust unit. I got this idea from the CTSV guys who often change out for this model for improved flow. You can get this for under 200.00 if you check around.
#4
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Mate , at least your getting somewhere.
See if I can find out anything .
I originally got an MP112 KIT , I then went TVS2300 .
So I do have a new pump if you get stuck , yeah its in the uk BUT
I will be in Florida around the 10th August , can bring it over and post it to you bud .
Also look at ford lightning performance parts ,think they have the same pump installed from factory.
See if I can find out anything .
I originally got an MP112 KIT , I then went TVS2300 .
So I do have a new pump if you get stuck , yeah its in the uk BUT
I will be in Florida around the 10th August , can bring it over and post it to you bud .
Also look at ford lightning performance parts ,think they have the same pump installed from factory.
#5
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Although my car is an eforce car, not a Maggie, I would look at the Jabsco 50840-0012 pump. I changed the puny one the came with my kit for this. Better flow and a much more robust unit. I got this idea from the CTSV guys who often change out for this model for improved flow. You can get this for under 200.00 if you check around.
#6
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I have to say, to me, the best part of this forum is not the information you get here, it is the brotherhood! People that haven't a clue who you are, willing to not just help but, go out of their way to do so. I have never been part of anything like this forum before, it truly amazes me. Thanks to all.
#7
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I found a website that says the Bosch pump flows 317 GPH. Looks like the Jabsco pump flows 110 LMP. That is 29.05 GPM and 1743.5 GPH That is a lot of flow, makes me wonder if it may not be too much flow? Going from 5.28 GMP to 29.05 GPM is a huge jump.
#8
Le Mans Master
Its fine.. its higher flow but a low pressure pump. Been using it for while now with no issues, as many others have.
#9
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Bought a used and a new pump off Ebay, same as was in the car, $137 for both of them. Now just waiting for one to get here. I took the old one apart. Not much to it. It is a magnetic drive pump, not connected to the motor at all. Pull the screws out and the pump comes out as a sealed unit that just sits inside a plastic housing, no shaft, just a magnet that rotates around inside the housing. Kinda cool actually. Haven't gotten around to opening up the motor, doubt I can fix it, but hey, you never know... Still considering the high flow pump option, but for now this will get me back on the street.
#11
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Just took pump motor apart,it is fixable if I can get the parts??? The brushes are so worn down that one flipped over in the holder and wasn't makeing contact. The rest checks out good Now to try and find brushes that will fit, or can be made to fit No big deal if I can't get brushes as I have 2 on the way, but be nice if I could fix it.
#12
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
BTW, I contacted the dealer on ebay that is asking $1k for the pump. They said the "they are on back order, the price will change when they get more in".
#13
Supporting Vendor
It's because of the dumb new eBay rules, the sellers get dinged if they pull an ad down and put it back up. So they increase the price to a level that no one will buy at, when they get stock back in they will readjust the price to a normal level.
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#15
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Can't they just put "OUT OF STOCK" ? Wonder what happens if someone actually does buy it for that price? Just doesn't seem like a good business practice to me. I wonder how many people don't know about the new rules on Ebay and just decide not to buy from that company, ever, do to the outrageous prices??? I would be concerned about reputation and negative word of mouth publicity.
#18
Burning Brakes
Well done bud , did you notice fluid movement in the reservoir ?
Its just a good way to check the pump from time to time .
Drive that car mate
Mine is off to the tuner today should be all sorted by the time i get back from holiday .
Only been 1 1/2 years doing the motor and blower
And it drives crap at the moment with the base tune
Have a good weekend mate
Its just a good way to check the pump from time to time .
Drive that car mate
Mine is off to the tuner today should be all sorted by the time i get back from holiday .
Only been 1 1/2 years doing the motor and blower
And it drives crap at the moment with the base tune
Have a good weekend mate
#20
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Yes, I could see it flowing into the reservior from the blower. Good luck with your tune, hope it is the beast you're looking for when you get back. Enjoy your holiday Nitro, and if you find yourself around the Stuart area P.M. me, would love to buy you a beer and chat.
Thanks zebra, drove it into work tonight, it ran great. I missed it, two weeks without it sucked! I found a new pump on Ebay for $93 and I also picked up a used one for $44 off there. I got the used one first so I put it in. If I can find the brushes I will be able to fix the original pump too. Hoping my track times will improve now that I have good flow to the blower.
Pump was on the right side of the car, in the bumper. Pretty easy to get at once you take the plastic cover piece off and remove the horns. I work slow compaired to some, and I had it all back together and filled in under an hour. Guess I shold be thanking the installer as I would never have known the pump was shot if I hadn't seen the suction hose kinked. I will be checking for flow in the reservior frequently now.
Thanks zebra, drove it into work tonight, it ran great. I missed it, two weeks without it sucked! I found a new pump on Ebay for $93 and I also picked up a used one for $44 off there. I got the used one first so I put it in. If I can find the brushes I will be able to fix the original pump too. Hoping my track times will improve now that I have good flow to the blower.
Pump was on the right side of the car, in the bumper. Pretty easy to get at once you take the plastic cover piece off and remove the horns. I work slow compaired to some, and I had it all back together and filled in under an hour. Guess I shold be thanking the installer as I would never have known the pump was shot if I hadn't seen the suction hose kinked. I will be checking for flow in the reservior frequently now.
Last edited by Lt. Dan M.; 08-02-2014 at 08:41 PM.